Talk:Romano-Germanic culture

AfD closed

I closed this article's AfD with a result of "no consensus". This does not preclude the article being renominated if it turns out that the POV forking issues can't be solved. For the moment, I've reduced the article to a stub, which I hope will make it easier to improve the article. So far, my google searches have indicated that the term "Romano-German" refers to three things:

• The German successor kingdoms to the Roman Empire. I can't quite figure out the chronology on this one, but it looks like this refers mostly to the early middle ages.
• The Romano-German legal system.
• Romano-German culture, contrasted with Slavic/Russian culture. This use seems to be associated with Russian imperialism/nationalism of the last couple centuries, and seems to be another way of making a distinction between western and eastern europe.

There may be other uses that I haven't turned up yet. I'm thinking that rather than a full-fledged article, this page may turn into a quasi-disambiguation page, since these senses of "Romano-German" seem fairly distinct. --Akhilleus (talk) 16:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Akhilleus. Your comment highlights the ambiguity that has troubled this article from its beginning under the title "Romano German." Just to add to the ambiguity, the term "Romano-Germanic" is probably more precise than "Romano-German." In English, "Germanic" refers to the people the Romans called germani, while "German" refers to the modern language and nation called Deutsch. It would probably be best to change the article's title to Romano-Germanic culture. Perhaps there should be a disambiguation page at Romano-Germanic with Romano-German redirecting there. -- Rob C (Alarob) 16:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Moved to Romano-Germanic culture

I went ahead and did it. Also created a Romano-Germanic dab page. -- Rob C (Alarob) 17:42, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

A couple of usages for "Romano-German" as distinct from "Romano-Germanic" may need to be addressed -- perhaps on the Romano-Germanic dab page:

• "Romano-German emperor" as a translation of römisch-deutscher Kaiser, as mentioned above by Finanzer.
• Romano-German as a term among pan-Slavic intellectuals for the opposing counterpart of Slavic culture. See Danilevsky's theory of historical-cultural types. Akhilleus first mentioned this.

-- Rob C (Alarob) 18:15, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I am going to delete the Norman Cantor citations, because He does use that term in his book, The Last Knight. --Lucius Sempronius Turpio (talk) 02:38, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Objections

If anybody has an objection to my text, please specify what you think needs correction. Please do not simply dispose of my good faith edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.164.27 (talk) 19:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

It is YOUR responsibility to make the case for the edits here. It is difficult to assume good faith when you make aggressive and unsubstantiated accusations against other editors. Please also learn to sign your comments --Snowded TALK 19:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

If you find something wrong in particular with the material, tell me and so I can edit better. I see no way that what I added was out of step with previous material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.164.27 (talk) 19:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

You've made more then 3 reverts here, within 24hrs. STOP it, now. GoodDay (talk) 20:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Pay attention to the material and find fault. Do not make this personal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.164.27 (talk) 20:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

You are in breech of WP:3RR and WP:GF I strongly suggest you reverse your edits and discuss them here. If you don't I am going to place a report of your behaviour on the Administrators notice board. --Snowded TALK 20:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I still await you lot to pick apart what I wrote by examining it for me. You just rv everything I do, without explaining what statements I made are wrong. That is revert warring for you. I put out hard work and you all cut me down for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.164.27 (talk) 20:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

My concern was not article content. But rather, getting ya to avoid breaching 3RR. GoodDay (talk) 21:29, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

A lot could be added.

I need to find the runic inscriptions naming jupiter as god of the goths, etc. 24.22.62.144 (talk) 20:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

There is evidence from Proto-Indo-European mythological studies of « ... a common sky god or “father sky”... Other than ruling in respective pantheons, and serving as father to several other Indo-European deities, the sky god is also seen... to unite with “mother earth”. According to Romanic and Germanic traditions... this common god, whose Latin name is Jupiter), has a potential functional (though not lexical) correspondence in the Norse ancestral deity Heimdalr» or Heimdall (Mallory, J.P. and Adams, D.Q.: “The Oxford Introduction to Proto-Indo-European and the Proto-Indo-European World”, Oxford University Press, 2006: ISBN 978-0-19-928791-8, chapter 25 “Comparative Mythology”).

On the other hand, the runic alphabet (which by the way derives from Mediterranean prototypes) is known to express Germanic concepts more or less isolated from Roman culture, yet both obviously share a hugh common Indo-European stock dating back gazillions. So, though the Romanic word “Jupiter” as such is very improbable to appear in runes, the same concept is very Germanic in itself.

--Zack Holly Venturi (talk) 18:58, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Move

→Romano-Germanic Europe, in line with Latin Europe and Germanic Europe (of which this is an admixture). Lingamondo (talk) 09:34, 14 April 2009 (UTC)