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related to Yuan Empirial book?

During Mongol occupation of China, Yuan empire developed kind of encyclopedia called Yuan Empirial Book (Mongolian: Yuan Gurnii Sudar) isnt Yongle actually that encyclopedia? And the Yuan Empirial Book has over 100 volumes. 71.191.21.18 (talk) 03:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the article. The Yongle Encyclopedia was started by the Yongle Emperor in 1402 and it consisted of 11095 volumes. While Yuan dynasty came to its end in 1368. Temur (talk) 01:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vs. Wikipedia.

Does anyone know the ratio of content in the Yongle Encyclopedia compared to Wikipedia?

Well, http://www.ifla.org/IV/ifla62/62-davd.htm says >370 million words in 22,937 volumes for the Yongle Encyclopedia; according to Special:Statistics for the English Wikipedia, there are 1,521,342 actual articles & 6,660,666 pages of various kinds in total. The detailed statistics record that as of June 2006, there were 511 million words. So a naive answer would be 370:511, but that's comparing apples and oranges: English to Chinese words, encyclopedia articles to encyclopedia/original texts, different styles of writing, etc. Even the sizes are highly imprecise: 370 million is really just a guess about the Yongle Encyclopedia, and for Wikipedia, it's not listed how the 511 million is obtained - the pages says "(excl. redirects, html/wiki codes and hidden links)", but is that really an accurate count of readable text? So, the answer is that Wikipedia is larger than the Yongle Encyclopedia - maybe. --Gwern (contribs) 21:08 7 December 2006 (GMT)

You must know, Yongle Encyclopedia was written in Ancient Chinese(Wenyan), which characterized by its massive meaning and efficient expressing ability. A sentence with 16 characters may be translated into English in more than a paragraph. For example,"大学之道，在明明德，在新民，在止于至善"（from 大学，or Great Learning)can be roughly translated into"The Way of the great learning involves manifesting virtue,renovating the people, and abiding by the highest good." And the translation lost most of its implications and allusions. So 50 million characters may contain a lots of knowledge, probably larger than Wikipedia. But that's just my personal view. Dreamback1116 (talk) 06:53, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When completed?

Any sources for either 1407 or 1408? -- Jeandré, 2007-01-28t13:58z

Yes... 1407: [1], [2]. 1408: [3]. --Gwern (contribs) 18:20 28 January 2007 (GMT)

Link to image

Changed the link to the image of one page of the encyclopedia as the previous linked page is no longer online.,2007-11-24

hidden in tomb complex

Do we have an article on "tomb complex of Yongling"? Yongling doesn't link. RJFJR (talk) 19:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think Yongling is 永陵 in simplified chinese, literally Yong Tomb. It seems it was one of emperor's tombs of Qing dynasty. I am not sure about the detail. Dreamback1116 (talk) 06:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ate the Encyclopedia

It doesn't sound right, but even if it's true, it's a bit vague, without any citation so I banged a ^{[citation needed]} onto it

Size

There is a factual discrepancy in the English and the Chinese version of this article. The English version claims there be 50M Chinese characters, the Chinese version of this article claims there be 370M. I Google searched "yongle dadian", many other sources on the Internet tend to show 370M. 64.229.196.34 (talk) 00:36, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 It doesn't sound right, but even if it's true, it's a bit vague, without any citation so I banged a {{Talkfact}} onto it
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+There is a factual discrepancy in the English and the Chinese version of this article. The English version claims there be 50M Chinese characters, the Chinese version of this article claims there be 370M. I Google searched "yongle dadian", many other sources on the Internet tend to show 370M. [[Special:Contributions/64.229.196.34|64.229.196.34]] ([[User talk:64.229.196.34|talk]]) 00:36, 28 April 2009 (UTC)