User talk:BoH

Hi BoH

Merry Christmas, as I am blocked (again) on the dutch Wikipedia, a scrap here. After my story in de Kroeg overthere, I started to fulfill the first request on my talkpage, which happened to be yours. I translated es:Blasco de Garay for you and when I wanted to save the page, it was made impossible by the "always friendly and decent" .Koen. Because I don't want my translated text to be destroyed by those blocking motherfuckers, I sent the text to Quichot (your email address doesn't work). I asked him to send it to you, and I guess he's doing that. Good luck with Wiki-NL and the Spanish sailormen and see you around, Torero 14:17, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Bedankt! Ik heb geen e-mail adres op WP staan, dus dat kan kloppen. Het gaat allemaal nogal stroef op NL. Al ben je natuurlijk onverbeterlijk, want ik denk dat je had kunnen aanvoelen dat bepaalde mensen je betoog slecht zouden trekken. Nou ben ik zelf niet zo fijngevoelig en ik vind dus ook dat ze zeuren, wat ik net in de Kroeg ook gemeld heb. Maar toch niet zo slim van je dat je dat niet zag aankomen. Terwijl je volgens mij toch niet dom bent. ;) Maar goed, ik zal eens kijken of ze op NL de discussie aan willen gaan en hopelijk wordt je blok opgeheven. Prettige dagen, ik ga weer aan het werk (ik zit nu aan boord), BoH 19:31, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Barge reference

The link you have deleted was mentioned in the article as a concrete example of an item that could only be shipped by barge; if you have a specific example of a larger single item shipped by barge, and can provide a reference for it, then by alll means include it. I chose that shipment because that's the largest item the TPOC has ever shipped, and I can document it as such; it may even be the largest item shipped via an inland waterway, save the barges themselves. Just saying "Barges ship bit things" isn't as illustrative of their capacity as concrete examples, and concrete examples must be referenced. scot 23:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello Scot. I'm sorry that I thought it neccesarry to delete that reference, but 565 ton is really not that big a load for a barge. My fear is that if every port that has a record for itself is going to put a reference here we end up with hundreds, if not thousands of links. I don't know what is the heaviest loadever on a barge, but the Bullwinkle jacket of 49,375t is almost 100 higher: [1]. I hope you understand what I mean, if not, please say so. If you are interested in barges, you may find pictures I took from te launch of the base tower of the Benguela Belize compliant tower of of the Heerema barge H-851 (one of the largest in the world, if not the largest) interesting: nl:Compliant tower. BoH 23:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

While I agree that far larger items have been shipped by water, the TPOC is unique in that is the furthest inland seaport in the world (the rest of the US inland waterways are either closer to the Gulf of Mexico or the Great Lakes). Also, unlike the oil platforms and other large sea based structures, the cracker fit on a standard barge, not one custom built for the purpose, and shipped through the normal locks. How about we change the text to note that the shipment from TPOC was the largest shipment from the furthest inland port, and also add a mention and a picture of the oil platform barges? Then the article will have examples of both inland and coastal use. scot 15:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

First of all, is it the furthest inland seaport in the world? Secondly, even if so, I really don't see the need to highlight TPOC in an article about barges. They are used througout the entire world, so a US bias is also not justified. By the way, what is the difference between the standard barge you are talking about and the offshore barges? Besides the size? BoH 20:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Reverting vessel movement web links ?

Why are you reverting my web links to marine vessel movements I'm only interested in promoting and educating the public in regards to the shipping industry. It's one thing to read about marine vessels in Wikipedia but to actually see the different types of vessels actually move in our harbors and waterways is an additional learning experience. Please stop reverting my web links that give users an additional experience of understanding how tugs, barges , and ships transit the waterways. Watermon 03:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I revert them as they are focused on a small part of worldwide shipping. If you would have made substantial contributions to WP, I might have considered them, but you only seem to want to promote your website. BoH 11:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Watermon

We must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 14:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

? You are about one year late with this welcome template. BoH 14:44, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

That's the standard assume good faith template; I think it works better like this. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 14:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

It's nice of you to point this out, and normally that is what I do, but I have pointed out the reasons why I didn't do this this time. By the way, I prefer to be spoken to in a personal way, not by templates. BoH 14:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:Reply-to-insistence-on-real-conversation. Just kidding. I'll be sure to keep that in mind from now on. But I've been doing a lot of spam reversion, and a lot of times they honestly think that it's a valuable resource and they just don't know any better. On the other hand, yes, sometimes they're just interested in promoting their site. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 14:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Hahaha. Ok, thanks, keep up the good work. BoH 15:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Will do. By the way, if you're really interested in spam reversion, you might want to check out WikiProject Spam. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 15:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but no time. I spend most of my time writing articles on nl WP. BoH 15:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

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Commons:Image:Thunder Horse.jpg

Hi. That was a stunning picture that you took and uploaded. Thanks. I was just wondering what the back-story behind its deletion is, cos all the info I have is what's in the deletion log. ("Per OTRS ticket 2008042310018407. Jimmy Chad Smith has informd us that although he took the picture, it is actually property of BP.'") It was a very good photo & it would be really nice of BP to release it into the public domain. I take it you that you work / were working for them and have tried asking for permission? RupertMillard (Talk) 15:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Rupert. The photo was not taken by me. I asked Jimmy Chad Smith for permission to place it here and did receive it, after which I placed it. Apparently the rights were not his, but BP's and he asked for the image to be deleted, but I'm not sure, because I can't track the request on Commons. Regards, BoH (talk) 16:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Cheers - now I understand. Do you know how I could get in touch with him, please? RupertMillard (Talk) 17:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't have is e-mail adress here, I mailed him from the ship I was on at the time. It may take a while before I return there. I believe he works for BP-US, so you may want to try there. Regards, BoH (talk) 17:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Oil tanker

Hi. Oil tanker is currently going through the Good article nominee process and is being energetically edited to meet the good article standards. One aspect of this, as mentioned in Wikipedia:CITE, is that it is important that "if an article already has some citations, an editor should adopt the method already in use or seek consensus before changing it."

I've gone ahead and reworked the references in the World War I section again, and hope we can proceed in a positive manner. Cheers. Haus^Talk 10:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello Haus. I'll do my best, but it's a rather complicated ref-structure (I'm normally editing on .nl). I hope you can forgive my refs not being entirely correct, but can appriciate important information is being added. The reason I'm adding is that I think a lot of information is missing for the article to be GA. You probably can't read Dutch, but may get an idea of what information is still missing if you scroll through nl:Geschiedenis van de olietanker. Regards, BoH (talk) 10:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

To add; is it really necessary to have a ref after each sentence? It make reading really annoying. BoH (talk) 10:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi BoH - thanks for your prompt response. I read through translation of your History of the Oil Tanker article and it's quite nice. With respect to the oil tanker article, I'm sure you understand that I have to edit everything that's added while it's in the good-article review stage. As for the number of citations: I know that the English Wikipedia is much more picky about citations than others. The Rule of Thumb is "Not every statement in an article needs a citation, but if in doubt, provide one." Cheers. Haus^Talk 11:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I can understand that when in doubt, a citation is needed, but one at the end of a paragraph, covering that whole paragraph, seems more then enough for me. Any sensible reader will understand that when two or three pages are cited, it covers more then just one sentence, especialy when the subject stays the same. But then again, if that's the way your reading audience prefers it, I'll go ahead and do my best. BoH (talk) 11:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I understand from your userpage that you're a sailor as well; in that case, The Tank Ship Tromedy is a must read! Everything you always suspected class and yards of, is described by a very knowledgable man, former naval architect and tank ship owner Jack Devanney. BoH (talk) 11:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

NE

What does "NE" mean? Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 17:56, 2 May 2009 (UTC)