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Health Issues

i removed part of the health issues section, there was nothing wrong with the content but i don't feel the article on the book should contain so much information on the health status of the author, the article on the author should be used for that. Boneyard 06:39, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Jordan is dead. http://www.dragonmount.com/RobertJordan/ You may want to edit this page to reflect this issue. --74.76.154.190 01:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who?

It may be interesting to know exactly who will finish writing the last book. (Epgui (talk) 16:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Well, that answers that. -- Cyrius|✎ 21:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Split

Any chance that split thing is a hoax? The graphic on the reference page looks a little off- if nothing else, it calls the book a sequel to "Crossroads of Twilight" instead of "Knife of Dreams." Of course, I may just be grasping at straws since I don't want to wait until 2011 to finish out the series. Robert Jordan said that he could get one really long good book, or two mediocre books out of the material he has left- so, Sanderson takes that and splits it into three books? Not a good omen... Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:01, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This link to Sanderson's blog seems to disparage the claims made. This really seems more like a hoax than anything else. I have tagged the section as such. Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sanderson's blog post, from Harriet also makes this look more like a hoax than reality. Harriet did not approve this image, she's never seen this image, and if this were remotely official she would be aware of it. Welch3694 (talk) 16:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed now by Tor and Sanderson. That cover art was bogus, but the split is real (and bigger than expected). http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=blog&id=19734 205.167.180.131 (talk) 18:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that just sucks. Let me find my torch and pitchfork. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:06, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So do we stick all three of the volumes in this article or do we spin out a separate article for each one? --sdgjake (talk) 21:06, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it here for now. Can split if and when there's enough info/sources for a separate article. Rehevkor ✉ 21:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if splitting is the best option, given that the split books will still be considered parts of one big book with the collective title of A Memory of Light, with "The Gathering Storm" et cetera being subtitles. Thoughts? Mirithing (talk) 19:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They would have to be split eventually for length and practice. See the Lord of the Rings book articles. rootology (C)(T) 19:33, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You make a very good point there, I didn't consider that. So we'll just split this article once it becomes big enough? Mirithing (talk) 19:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A split would be inevitable really. I for one would rather avoid long and overly complicated plot sections in this article. Best bet would be to develop this one as we are, for a general article on the "trilogy", then the articles on the volumes can branch off and develop on their own. When dust settles, and the volume articles can't stand up on their own, we can attempt to merge them, (I'm always in favour in quality over quantity of articles) but that's a long way from now. But worth keeping in mind. Oh, and an example of a series merged into a single article would be

The Myst Reader. WoT is considerably more epic, but how easy would it be to write a decent, well sourced article on any of the individual WoT books that weren't just glorified plot summaries? Rehevkor ✉ 20:47, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where do people stand on the split now? With the official covers released and comments from Harriet, Sanderson and Tom Doherty at JordanCon, it seems that A Memory of Light will now be the title of just the final book (Book 14) and the preceding two will not have the Memory of Light subtitle on them. It seems logical to me that we now need a dedicated page for The Gathering Storm, Book 13 and the 'new' Memory of Light. Thoughts?--Werthead (talk) 23:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While it does seem to be the case I've not found anything concrete confirm and contradict the previous sources. So until there is something does come up nothing needs to be done. It is rather annoying though as the article was written on "the last novel(s)" so it'd need to be scrapped and re-written if it does turn out to be true. Unless we create a The Wheel of Time after Robery Jordan popped his clogs article or some bollocks. Rehevkor ✉ 13:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken the initiative and created a page for The Gathering Storm (book). A Memory of Light is not even mentioned on the US cover, and continuing to wiki-describe book 12 under this page is becoming counterproductive. I also think that this page has way too much information specific to the upcoming book and it is becoming unbalanced. I've created a short section on the split on the new page, including book specific information about how the title was chosen. I've put the new US cover there. I do think this page should still be used to discuss the new trilogy as a whole, but that info specific to the new book in this article should be kept to a minimum. Billebrooks (talk) 00:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this is the correct action. As of this point the last bookmay or maqy not be A Memory of Light. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 00:59, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"2000 pages"

I'm pretty sure he said this himself somewhere that this would be the final book even if it's 2000 pages long, but I can't seem to find it. Could anyone provide a link? Not that important as it's mentioned in the Forbes article, but I'd like it from the horses mouth. Cheers! Rehevkor ✉ 19:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Haven't found anything about the length, but he does comment on his blog before he died about "my intention is to finish with twelve books, and that may mean the last book will be VERY long...". That's at: http://www.dragonmount.com/RobertJordan/?p=26 Caidh (talk) 19:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's mentioned here and there in various articles and I'm pretty sure he mentioned the 2000 number somewhere one of his Dragonmount writings (a reliable source for anything related to him or WoT, especially if it's one of his posts). If you do creative Googling add in the phrase "fork lift" or "forklift", since I recall it was him making a joke about needing one to bring the book into your house. rootology (C)(T) 04:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, searching his blogs I've not been able to find a 2000 reference, but then I've not finished reading through it manually. In the article I've used the mention Caidh suggested. I recall reading the "forklift" reference, but used Caidh's source as I found it sooner. Don't need two blog references to the length. Thank you though! Rehevkor ✉ 04:36, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cover Picture

Should we really have the British version of the cover be shown? All the other articles use the American version of the cover.Jamhaw (talk) 04:32, 19 May 2009 (UTC)jamhaw[reply]

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 :While it does seem to be the case I've not found anything concrete confirm and contradict the previous sources. So until there is something does come up nothing needs to be done. It is rather annoying though as the article was written on "the last novel(s)" so it'd need to be scrapped and re-written if it does turn out to be true. Unless we create a [[The Wheel of Time after Robery Jordan popped his clogs]] article or some bollocks. [[User:Rehevkor|Rehevkor]] <big>[[User talk:Rehevkor|<FONT COLOR="black">✉</FONT>]]</big> 13:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
-I've taken the initiative and created a page for [[The Gathering Storm (book)]].  ''A Memory of Light'' is not even mentioned on the US cover, and continuing to wiki-describe book 12 under this page is becoming counterproductive.  I also think that this page has way too much information specific to the upcoming book and it is becoming unbalanced.  I've created a short section on the split there, including book specific information about how the title was chosen.  I've put the new US cover there.  I do think this page should still be used to discuss the new trilogy as a whole, but that info specific to the new book in this article should be kept to a minimum. [[User:Billebrooks|Billebrooks]] ([[User talk:Billebrooks|talk]]) 00:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
+I've taken the initiative and created a page for [[The Gathering Storm (book)]].  ''A Memory of Light'' is not even mentioned on the US cover, and continuing to wiki-describe book 12 under this page is becoming counterproductive.  I also think that this page has way too much information specific to the upcoming book and it is becoming unbalanced.  I've created a short section on the split on the new page, including book specific information about how the title was chosen.  I've put the new US cover there.  I do think this page should still be used to discuss the new trilogy as a whole, but that info specific to the new book in this article should be kept to a minimum. [[User:Billebrooks|Billebrooks]] ([[User talk:Billebrooks|talk]]) 00:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 :I agree that this is the correct action. As of this point the last bookmay or maqy not be A Memory of Light. [[User:HellinaBucket|Hell in a Bucket]] ([[User talk:HellinaBucket|talk]]) 00:59, 24 May 2009 (UTC)