Talk:Stirling

Somerfield Store

is it really neccessary to make a mention of the closure of a Somerfield store in St Ninians in Stirling. it is wasting valuable space. i for one would like to see this section removed. who agrees with me? (to relieve space here if you want, you can make your comments on Kilnburn under the section Somerfield, Stirling} Kilnburn (talk) 02:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

...And gone! Also did some rearrangement around the Rainbow Slides section: also arguably too topical for the article, but the resulting lack of public swimming facility in a city is worthy of note I think. So I've blended it with Sports. AllyD (talk) 09:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

thank goodness, it's gone. should never got a mention on here at all. thanks, AllyD Kilnburn (talk) 22:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

G8

I've deleted the paragraph about the G8 summit because I don't think it belongs here. If every event happening in Stirling was added to the page it would quickly become unmanageable. -- Orourkek 09:06, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

no it doesn't deserve a mention here. well done. Kilnburn (talk) 02:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Population

I updated the city population from 40,000 to 78,833, per the 2001 census information at [1]. I didn't update the regional total of 85,000 (as the 2001 census was for central region, not Stirling Council). I suppose only Bridge of Allan and Dunblane are particularly large, but all the myriad wee places in Stirling Council's Northern extent will surely add up to quite a bit. If anyone has a reasonable source (or even just the size for Dunblane) then we can update the regional total. -- Finlay McWalter 00:50, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Twinning

Stirling council isn't terribly consistent about the twinning status of Dunedin:

• In [2] they say "Stirling is twinned with Villeneuve d'Ascq in France, and we have a 'friendship link' with Dunedin in Florida, USA."
• But in [3] they say "Stirling’s twin town, Dunedin, Florida"

So I erred on the site of inclusion, and marked both Duneidin and Villeneuve-d'Ascq as full "twin towns". -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 19:35, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Dunedin has always refereed to Stirling as a "sister city" so I assumed it was reciprocal. PlainSight 20:54, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

"Twinning" is the term used in the UK (I'd never heard of a "friendship link" until today); "sister city" and "twin city" mean the same thing (per town twinning). "Friendship link" sounds rather second rate, but it doesn't seem to deter Stirling's councillors from making "fact finding" trips, no doubt including "tourist studies" of Disneyworld :) -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:10, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

LOL. Well, at least I'm glad to see that it's not only small-town politicians in the US that go on "fact finding" junkets at the taxpayer's expense! Obviously it's an international political perk. -PlainSight 01:16, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Royal burgh

This can't be right:

"Stirling was a royal burgh until 2002"

All burghs were explicitly abolished in 1975 by the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973 Lozleader 21:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

CFD

The related Category:Members of the United Kingdom Parliament from Stirling constituencies has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for Discussion page.

--Mais oui! 09:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

delete: now this is a pointless article Kilnburn (talk) 02:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Srivling

This is not the Lowland Scots for Stirling. I have seen the likes of Strevelin etc, but can someone suggest a preferale form? --MacRusgail 21:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

King's Park F.C.

Hi, just looking for a opinion on including the now defunct football team King's Park F.C. into the Stirling article as the did play in Stirling also they closed down due to a historical event - only German WW2 bomb to fall on the town destroyed their ground. thoughts. Gorillamusic 21:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Smallest city in Scotland

This is not true. Dunblane (a local city near it) is about a quarter of the size. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.79.75.203 (talk) 03:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

personally, Stirling shouldn't be considered a city. to be a city, it needs to have a cathedral or at least an abbey. anyway, i believe, Dunkeld is the smallest city in Scotland. -Previous unsigned comment (due to inappropriate syntax from 81.79.75.203)

The whole "cathedral city" thing never held in Scotland. The term "city" was not used in Scotland prior to the Union (our nearest equivalent was the royal burgh) and by the Union, Scotland didn't have a "holy see", so a cathedral was of no relevance whatsoever. Prof Wrong (talk) 17:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Stirling is officially a city, although it is too small to be considered a city in geographical terms. Both Dunkeld and Dunblane are both too small to be cities in the mind of a geographer and are not officially recognised as cities. They are only really recognised as cities by the local people. Stirling does actually have an abbey, Cambuskenneth Abbey, which is in the City of Stirling, but that is besides the point. 129.215.76.45 (talk) 10:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Dialect

I think it would be useful if someone could add a section on language / dialect as I don't think this has been covered at all. 129.215.76.45 (talk) 10:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, Stirling has no notable dialect. That said, I grew up here 82.3.242.139 (talk) 02:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of is "eh no?" which is shared with Falkirk. Prof Wrong (talk) 17:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Name origin

Just wondered if we can expand the stuff on the origin of the name...?

As well as the attributed Latinised form in the town motto, Barbour's The Brus uses the form Strevillyne/Strevilline (although at this time, I don't believe there was an orthographic distinction between V and U, and the labio-dental /v/ is largely missing from Scots, as I understand it). The poem was written in 1375, although the earliest extant version was transcribed in 1489, so no accounting for transcription errors!

The current version of the old spelling isn't dated or attributed.... Prof Wrong (talk) 17:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)