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:*'''Comment'''. I suppose you and Jennavecia either didnt read the [[WP:ENTERTAINER]] or the article itself because that guidline say ''See WP:MUSIC for guidelines on '''musicians''', composers, groups, etc''. Gathania is a musician and not an entertainer. And she fulfills point one and two on [[WP:MUSIC]] Criteria for musicians and ensembles. [[User:Linnea94|Linnea94]] ([[User talk:Linnea94|talk]]) 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC) |
:*'''Comment'''. I suppose you and Jennavecia either didnt read the [[WP:ENTERTAINER]] or the article itself because that guidline say ''See WP:MUSIC for guidelines on '''musicians''', composers, groups, etc''. Gathania is a musician and not an entertainer. And she fulfills point one and two on [[WP:MUSIC]] Criteria for musicians and ensembles. [[User:Linnea94|Linnea94]] ([[User talk:Linnea94|talk]]) 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC) |
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::* I can't see "Blame it on You" in either the UK or Swedish charts ([http://www.theofficialcharts.com/top40_singles.php UK], [http://www.sverigetopplistan.se/ Swedish 1], [http://swedishcharts.com/weekchart.asp?cat=s Swedish 2]) so I'm not really seeing how [[WP:MUSIC]] 1 and 2 apply - she's "been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works" in her capacity as a contestant (hence [[WP:ENTERTAINER]]), not - so far as I can see - in her capacity as a musician. WP:MUSIC 2 would apply if she'd charted, not simply by being signed to a record label (which you suggest above makes her notable). Cheers, [[User:This flag once was red|<b style="color:#000">This flag once was red</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:This flag once was red|<span style="color:#f00">propaganda</span>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/This flag once was red|deeds]]</sub> 14:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC) |
::* I can't see "Blame it on You" in either the UK or Swedish charts ([http://www.theofficialcharts.com/top40_singles.php UK], [http://www.sverigetopplistan.se/ Swedish 1], [http://swedishcharts.com/weekchart.asp?cat=s Swedish 2]) so I'm not really seeing how [[WP:MUSIC]] 1 and 2 apply - she's "been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works" in her capacity as a contestant (hence [[WP:ENTERTAINER]]), not - so far as I can see - in her capacity as a musician. WP:MUSIC 2 would apply if she'd charted, not simply by being signed to a record label (which you suggest above makes her notable). Cheers, [[User:This flag once was red|<b style="color:#000">This flag once was red</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:This flag once was red|<span style="color:#f00">propaganda</span>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/This flag once was red|deeds]]</sub> 14:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:::* No not Blame it on You but Get It Out is in [http://www.sverigetopplistan.se/ Swedish 1], week 7-8. And here [http://swedishcharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Gathania&titel=Get+It+Out&cat=s] on your second link. [[User:Linnea94|Linnea94]] ([[User talk:Linnea94|talk]]) 14:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC) |
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Ninth place finish on Swedish version of Idol is a far cry from notability. Only sources on article are a trviail mention on a blog (can't tell if it's official or user, as it's in a foreign language) and what looks to be her own website or marketer's website. Would need multiple independent reliable sources with nontrivial coverage to demonstrate notability enough for an article here. DreamGuy (talk) 20:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 22:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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- Keep Blame it on you is gettin heavy airplay. she will be big. keep da page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.76.224 (talk) 16:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- Comment. Can you provide any evidence of that, such as links to radio station web sites? If it can be verified then the subject might pass WP:MUSIC criterion 11. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:32, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- Comment. Here is evidence. The google results on Swedish State Radio (Sveriges Radio). http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=Gathania+site%3Asr.se&meta= . It shows some playlists and that Get It Out was on DigiListan for some weeks. This shows she's got airplay on BBC 1 http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=Gathania++site%3Abbc.co.uk&meta=Linnea94 (talk) 13:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- Delete. Not-notable at this stage. She may enjoy chart success in the future, but right now she's just an Idol contestant. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 00:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Niteshift36 (talk) 05:36, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Keep Added some references. She is signed with a record company in Great Britain and Sweden, that makes her notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linnea94 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- This template must be substituted. DreamGuy (talk) 14:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Fails WP:ENTERTAINER, and "she will be big" is not an argument to keep. See WP:CRYSTAL. لennavecia 18:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- Delete per Jennavecia. --Kuzaar-T-C- 12:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Comment. I suppose you and Jennavecia either didnt read the WP:ENTERTAINER or the article itself because that guidline say See WP:MUSIC for guidelines on musicians, composers, groups, etc. Gathania is a musician and not an entertainer. And she fulfills point one and two on WP:MUSIC Criteria for musicians and ensembles. Linnea94 (talk) 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I can't see "Blame it on You" in either the UK or Swedish charts (UK, Swedish 1, Swedish 2) so I'm not really seeing how WP:MUSIC 1 and 2 apply - she's "been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works" in her capacity as a contestant (hence WP:ENTERTAINER), not - so far as I can see - in her capacity as a musician. WP:MUSIC 2 would apply if she'd charted, not simply by being signed to a record label (which you suggest above makes her notable). Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 14:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- No not Blame it on You but Get It Out is in Swedish 1, week 7-8. And here [1] on your second link. Linnea94 (talk) 14:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)