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The problem is that all stubs for Charente and Charente-Maritime departments shoud read "southwestern", not "western". Could you repair it by a robot (or have it repaired ?) - at least those that are nearly empty. Regards, |
The problem is that all stubs for Charente and Charente-Maritime departments shoud read "southwestern", not "western". Could you repair it by a robot (or have it repaired ?) - at least those that are nearly empty. Regards, |
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[[User:Jack ma|Jack ma]] ([[User talk:Jack ma|talk]]) 17:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC) |
[[User:Jack ma|Jack ma]] ([[User talk:Jack ma|talk]]) 17:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:Hi, if you consider that the centre of mainland France is somewhere near [[Saint-Amand-Montrond]], in the Cher department (according to [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9ographie_de_la_France#Centre_g.C3.A9ographique French wikipedia]), the location of the departments Charente and Charente-Maritime is more accurately described as "western France" than "southwestern France". I would call Biarritz, Pau and Bordeaux southwest, not La Rochelle (Charente-Maritime). [[User:Markussep|Markussep]] <sup>[[User talk:Markussep|Talk]]</sup> 17:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC) |
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::Hello. The problem is that there are other factors than pure geometry. According to what you say, Dordogne or Gironde would be "west", too. Traditionally, Charente and Charente-Maritime have always been in what we call "South-west": the daily [http://www.sudouest.com/charente/actualite.html Sud-Ouest] covers both departments, also names of companies, or contents of books can proove it. The "boundary" is just at the north of these 2 departments: above, West begins (or "Centre-West"): Poitou, Pays-de-la Loire, Brittany... People who live in Charente, like me, know it. It has also a matter to do with "hydrological basins", climates, vegetation, architecture, and human factors... Most of other French people just don't know that fact either: this is a (little) problem with Wikipedia: sometimes articles local to an area are made by people not really knowing this area (Charentes). Because it is not much known, probably. Google gives you 975,000 answers with "Charente + sud-ouest" and 500,000 with "Charente +ouest -sud". The other "difficulty" is that this boundary "south-west/west" is in the middle of the administrative region "Poitou-Charentes" (Poitou is Centre-West, Charentes are South-West), but that's it! I hope that these 70,000 pages (or more) can be changed at once by a robot. Otherwise, we have to rely on luck, and time... Thanks anyway. [[User:Jack ma|Jack ma]] ([[User talk:Jack ma#top|talk]]) 13:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC) |
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Hallo Markus. Hast du noch mehr so tolle Bilder aus den abanischen Bergen? Gerade zu Lura könnten wir noch gute Bilder gebrauchen! Danke, --Albinfo (talk) 09:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for your message. Sounds interesting – would be nice if you could upload some of them to commons. --Albinfo (talk) 17:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Don (Vilaine)
Don (Vilaine) I assume you intend to write an article for this currently redlinked and orphaned item in Don disambig? Ex nihil (talk) 09:41, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
...Beienrode (Königslutter)
Danke je wel voor de hulp bij de artikel Beienrode(Königslutter)... ik ben nog een klein beginner bij wikipedia, dus heb ik wel nog veel hulp nodig.
Groeten Eekhoorntje! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eekhoorntje (talk • contribs) 14:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Your edits
Hi, and thanks for your contributions. I noticed that you linked some dates recently. This practice is now deprecated. Please see WP:LINKING and WP:MOSNUM. Furthermore, there is an temporary Arbcom injunction on mass linking/delinking of chronological elements, although this is no suggestion from me that you are in breach whatsoever. I'm happy to respond to any inquiries you may have about the matter. Thank you for your attention. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, I have not been actively linking unlinked dates. What I have been doing is copying infoboxes from French wikipedia (see for instance this diff), and years are often linked in French wikipedia. There has been quite some confusion about that recently (one user asking me to delink years, another user telling Ksnow not to delink years). If it's really a big deal, I can delink years in infoboxes I copy, but I would prefer some bot to do that. Markussep Talk 09:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well, there is currently no bot that is approved to remove links to years, only autoformatted dates. I don't think it would really be considered delinking since you are exporting it from another wiki, but I understand your desire to exercise caution. The injunction is only against mass, automated removal of links. It's all right as long as you 1) delink manually and not at a fast rate and 2) you do it in conjunction with other significant changes. Regards, Dabomb87 (talk) 12:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
- For now I won't put any effort in delinking years in copied infoboxes, I will just copy the style (linked or not) I find at fr:. It's enough work already as is ;-) Markussep Talk 13:22, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
River moves
Sorry, I hadn't realised it was a hot topic and will leave it alone. I recognise the difference between US and other English-speaking nations. My feeling is that it's because US naming is more recent and so they named their rivers after something like an Indian tribe, or state or its colour e.g. the Big Black River, the Tennessee River, the Red River, the Mississippi River. So the name is an adjective and should come first. Whereas in long-established countries, the river already has a name stretching back into the mists of time, so is a noun in its own right: River Thames, River Avon. And my sense is that it's like that in Germany too. And by convention the name comes last if its not adjectival. Only a theory. It could also be argued that in the European Union we normally use British English not US English :). --Bermicourt (talk) 20:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
It was only a theory... I agree though that X (river) would make more sense. It's common usage in all countries to just refer to the river by its name. Pity your idea was deprecated. But Wikipedia is still developing... --Bermicourt (talk) 21:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
I think at least 2 of your examples may be adjectival/derived names too. The Columbia River was named after a ship, the Coeur d'Alene River flows into Lake Coeur d'Alene (notice the reversal of naming). Of course if 90% of US/Canadian naming is X River, it's likely that even the exceptions will follow that rule.
BTW when you moved River Sinn to Sinn River you stated this was standard disamb for German rivers. You said yourself that the Wiki policy accepts both and AFAIK there is no clear German policy, so wasn't that a bit naughty?! I suggest we leave the titles as they are until a clear policy is agreed, preferably X (river), which is neutral. Gruß, Paul. --Bermicourt (talk) 16:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Modification of Charente and Charente-Maritime stubs in France
Hello, You created many stubs of France maybe automatically. The problem is that all stubs for Charente and Charente-Maritime departments shoud read "southwestern", not "western". Could you repair it by a robot (or have it repaired ?) - at least those that are nearly empty. Regards, Jack ma (talk) 17:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, if you consider that the centre of mainland France is somewhere near Saint-Amand-Montrond, in the Cher department (according to French wikipedia), the location of the departments Charente and Charente-Maritime is more accurately described as "western France" than "southwestern France". I would call Biarritz, Pau and Bordeaux southwest, not La Rochelle (Charente-Maritime). Markussep Talk 17:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hello. The problem is that there are other factors than pure geometry. According to what you say, Dordogne or Gironde would be "west", too. Traditionally, Charente and Charente-Maritime have always been in what we call "South-west": the daily Sud-Ouest covers both departments, also names of companies, or contents of books can proove it. The "boundary" is just at the north of these 2 departments: above, West begins (or "Centre-West"): Poitou, Pays-de-la Loire, Brittany... People who live in Charente, like me, know it. It has also a matter to do with "hydrological basins", climates, vegetation, architecture, and human factors... Most of other French people just don't know that fact either: this is a (little) problem with Wikipedia: sometimes articles local to an area are made by people not really knowing this area (Charentes). Because it is not much known, probably. Google gives you 975,000 answers with "Charente + sud-ouest" and 500,000 with "Charente +ouest -sud". The other "difficulty" is that this boundary "south-west/west" is in the middle of the administrative region "Poitou-Charentes" (Poitou is Centre-West, Charentes are South-West), but that's it! I hope that these 70,000 pages (or more) can be changed at once by a robot. Otherwise, we have to rely on luck, and time... Thanks anyway. Jack ma (talk) 13:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)