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TonyDizeWithBraids.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:TonyDizeWithBraids.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Crazy note (notify | contribs).

Dubious claim that this image is free: the source states "©2008 Reggaetonline™. All Rights Reserved." —Remember the dot ^(talk) 01:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Paparazzimusicvideo2.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: - Delete - As failing NFCC#3a. None of the keep arguments convince as to how this non-free image satisfies the NFCC requirements.- Peripitus (Talk) 12:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Paparazzimusicvideo2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Legolas2186 (notify | contribs).

Unjustified FU image. There is already an image of the video in the article. There is zero justification for two. ÷seresin 01:24, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep:Seeing the epic proportions of such a long video, there are numerous instances which are not exactly describable by word. This image portrays the death of Gaga by her boyfriend, however portraying the death in style is not entirely describable by word, hence the justification of the this image. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:37, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The music video is rather long and is sometimes said to be a short-film, therefore I find more than one image necessary. It has improved the quality and encyclopedic value of the article illustrating something not clearly describable by words. • вяαdcяo chat 06:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is true (the above) therefore I believe keeping the picture is needed. It is twice as long as a normal music video. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 06:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above votes are spurious. Articles about feature length films rarely have more than one FU image (the poster), much less three. So the argument that two images are necessary because the video is of "epic proportions" and "sometimes said to be a short-film [sic]" is ridiculous on its face. In addition, the argument that the death is not clearly describable by words is absurd. As it stands, the image is purely decorative. ÷seresin 22:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please donot call other's comments as ridiculous. They have given their judgement and you have given yours. Let others say what they feel like. Given your other nominations I can call them also as ridiculous. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. People are entilted to their view and that their views are ot critzied. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 05:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do not abuse your administrative privileges by putting down another's opinion. I believe Wiki is open to the views of all and not to one particular party. Would you enjoy it if I were to call your perceptions ridiculous? I don't think you would. You are just in greif because there have been three valid points to keep the image resulting in you not being able to get your own way. Read this source stating that the video is an 8 minute, NSFW epic. Rolling Stone, a highly reliable source also states the video as being an epic short film and that it deserved a red carpet opposed to a leak on the internet. This music video is massive. The length of the section in the article makes that pretty obvious. It's one of the biggest i've seen. Two screenshots are necessary. • вяαdcяo chat 06:37, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is Wikipedia, not Wiki. Stifle (talk) 21:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, fails WP:NFCC#3a. Stifle (talk) 21:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NFCC#3a is only justified when multiple images added whence only a single one would be enough to increase understanding. Which is not the case in this one. So many different aspects are not justifiable and both the pics are encyclopedic in the sens that they increase the undertansing of the varied instances of the video: one, the death of the artist in a fashinable way and teh recovering, that too incorporating fashion and new imagery. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I do not care if it is wiki, wikia, wikipeida-it's a name, you do need to be PC (polictcally correct, thi is wiki, it is commonly refered to as this. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 06:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with PC, and everything to do with proper naming. By your logic, you could call this "website". Stifle (talk) 15:56, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is obvious that any member of this "website" as you refer to it can be called wiki--it is commonly refered to this, it is logical and common sense. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 04:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP: I think a second image is necessary but not this one. An Image of the opening written credits of the video and one of image would be appropriate, a second image showing relatively the same thing is purely decorative. Delete this and add in image of the "Lady GaGa in Paparazzi". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayy009 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:NFCC#3a --♫Smanu! 19:13, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While merely citing a policy or guideline may give other editors a clue as to what the reasoning is, it does not explain specifically how the policy is being violated. When asserting that an ~~article~~ image should be deleted, it is important to explain why. Sparks Fly 00:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

sorry, but I don't know all the 32255436 rules here. Anyway, there is already a picture that shows the video, shorter video also have numerous different scenes, for example the Poker Face video has the pool scene, the strip-poker scene, the sofa scene...but there is only a picture --♫Smanu! 09:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We can't delete x basing y, since it falls to the 3105134th rule [sic] of Wikipedia. Maybe the "Poker Face"'s page don't have a second image because it can't be found, not, in fact, because it is not needed. Sparks Fly 17:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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White Crested Cockatoo .jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:White Crested Cockatoo .jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Chuck Marean (notify | contribs).

Orphan, low-resolution, limited colour, does not show much detail, Cockatoo and its related pages have varied and detailed images. Jay (talk) 03:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orphan is not a good reason, because someone may have removed it from where it was being used. A detail it shows is that as pets they are kept in strong cages. --Chuck Marean 20:42, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

True, orphan alone may not make a good reason. But the Wikipedia:Files for deletion guidelines for what could be deleted gives examples like Obsolete, Orphan, Unencyclopedic, Low quality and Copyright violation. So Orphan as a reason is bound to come up often. Jay (talk) 09:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - low quality image, adds no pertinent information (don't need an image to confirm they're kept in cages). --ZimZalaBim ^talk 01:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Patrick allotey.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Patrick allotey.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Knurftendans (notify | contribs).

Patrick Allotey was a famous football player who has been photographed professionally and informally thousands of times. It should not be very difficult to find a photo and get it released under a free license. Damiens.rf 03:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Byron M. Baer.jpg

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Byron Baer was a famous politician who has been photographed professionally and informally thousands of times. It should not be very difficult to find a photo and get it released under a free license. Damiens.rf 03:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep My wife and I received an award from Senator Byron Baer at a point in time when he was clearly suffering the effects of Parkinson's Disease. It was this misfortune that led to his resignation from the New Jersey Senate just a few years later. He died in 2007 and I was unable to obtain a licensable photo from any third party and would have been sure to take a photo with a digital camera at the time I met him though I did not have a camera with me and didn't know that Wikipedia existed. While I cannot complain -- and have not complained -- about the deletion of photos of living legislators, the fact that Mr. Baer is dead and buried makes it that much more challenging to find a picture for which it would be possible to obtain clearance to meet Wikipedia standards. While I would love to find such a picture and would hope to do so in the future, the article and Wikipedia are worse off without the picture, one that captures a small amount of what Senator Baer was like when he was alive before his affliction with Parkinson's. Alansohn (talk) 03:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Even in the case that the article and Wikipedia are worse off without the picture, our police wouldn't allow us to use a non free image if we hope to find a free picture in the future. --Damiens.rf 03:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I fail to see why there is an issue with the claim of fair use for this image under Wikipedia policy. I will be more than happy to search far and wide for a free image of the rather-deceased Baer (and all other living New Jersey Legislators) to replace the existing fair use image, but until then the challenge would appear to be unjustified. Alansohn (talk) 03:04, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - You must be unfamiliar with our Number-one non-free content rule, that orders us to use no image while we're searching for a free image. --Damiens.rf 16:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      - The fact that a free image *might* exist somewhere in the universe is a rather poor argument for deletion of a fair use image created for public distribution by a governmental body of a person who is rather dead and for whom I have no reason to believe that I will be successful in finding an image during the demanded snipe hunt. I fail to see what this is accomplishing, especially when my response here is followed by a dozen different images loaded at a dozen different times with rather clear explanations that you have all nominated for deletion on the same day. I would appreciate an explanation for your actions. Alansohn (talk) 23:17, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        You may want to complain with our boss: User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 47#Images from the Associated Press. --Damiens.rf 13:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
keep as reasonable use, on the unlikelihood there's a replacement. Oddly enough, I do not find the cited no.1 rule on the page linked. It reads "in no free content is available," so since it is not yet available, the rule is met. Therule would apply, properly, to our continuing to use the image agter a free one was found to be available. Damiens, find the text you paraphrased. DGG (talk) 01:56, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the editing work. Our Number-one non-free content rule says: " no free equivalent is available, or could be created...", Have a nice day. --Damiens.rf 13:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thommie Walsh.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: - Delete - as replaceable with a free image. That the effort to find such a free image has not been expended is not a reason to host non-free content. The assertions by the nominator that such an image could be found have not been refuted - Peripitus (Talk) 07:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Thommie Walsh.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Emerson7 (notify | contribs).

Thommie Walsh was a famous dancer who has been photographed professionally and informally thousands of times. It should not be very difficult to find a photo and get it released under a free license. Damiens.rf 03:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: fair use claim for this image is perfectly valid, and in compliance with wp policy. if ever a free image is found, that image can be be used to replace it at that time. until then, the fair use challenge is without merit. --emerson7 23:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep if there is no image currently available, the file should be kept rather than making rash assumptions. DGG (talk) 01:57, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Being dead doesn't make a free image impossible. See User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 47#Images from the Associated Press. The image is clearly replaceable. --Damiens.rf 13:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Liane bahler.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: - Delete - not having a free image now is not a compelling argument that one is not available. Nominator has stated that the subject has been photographed often and that then a free image could be obtained. The first is certain and the second seems likely - Peripitus (Talk) 07:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Liane bahler.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Knurftendans (notify | contribs).

Liane Bahler was a famous cyclist who has been photographed professionally and informally thousands of times. It should not be very difficult to find a photo and get it released under a free license. Damiens.rf 03:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep if there is no image currently available, the file should be kept rather than making rash assumptions. DGG (talk) 01:57, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- This is not how things work here. See User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 47#Images from the Associated Press. The image is clearly replaceable. --Damiens.rf 13:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Gaybyrnelate.jpg

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File:Gaybyrnelate.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by MaxPride (notify | contribs).

What this particular presenter hosting this particular programme looks like is of no importance to either article. J Milburn (talk) 11:43, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gay Byrne was the first presenter of the world's longest running chat show, The Late Late Show. The Late Late attracts the biggest television audience in Ireland. CargoK ^user ^talk 11:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not challenging the notability of the subject, I'm merely asking why this image of him is needed. What does it show? J Milburn (talk) 12:24, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He's looking like he's getting ready to say his now legendary "one for everyone in the audience" catchphrase? No? Maybe? Hmm... --can dle •wicke 14:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, decorative fair use. Stifle (talk) 21:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Serves no purpose and is orphaned ZooPro (talk) 14:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-kyd.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Vid-kyd.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bwmoll3 (notify | contribs).

NFCC #8. Doesn't add significantly to user's understanding. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 19:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Insufficent justification for deletion. Your opinion, no one elses. The image has been on the page for a year and a half and does add to the appreciation to the song. Retain. Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think others would disagree. Video clips are only necessary when we're explicitly discussing a certain aspect of the video, not just "they shot a video and here it is". Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Vidcap from a video for a single, where the section of the article about the song doesn't even mention the video. This adds to reader's understanding, how? Livitup (talk) 20:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - very poor quality, and I can't see it adding any information at all to the article. Same goes for all the other video stills further down on this list. Justsail (talk) 18:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-hia-28sep94.jpg

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Doesn't add significantly to understanding of song; NFCC #8. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 19:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Insufficent justification for deletion. Your opinion, no one elses. The image has been on the page for a year and a half and does add to the appreciation to the song. Retain. Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, just a picture of the artist. ViperSnake151 Talk 19:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song's context. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song's context. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song's context. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song's context. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song's context. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song's context. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song's context. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song's context. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song's context. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-elvis-23jun1994.jpg

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Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-ydekwia-24jan1995.jpg

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Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-attad.jpg

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Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-twtt.jpg

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Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:40, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-ydstmm-18aug1997.jpg

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File:Vid-ydstmm-18aug1997.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bwmoll3 (notify | contribs).

Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:40, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-cge-16dec1998.jpg

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File:Vid-cge-16dec1998.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bwmoll3 (notify | contribs).

Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:42, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-ttkmim.jpg

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Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:43, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-ltomm.jpg

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Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song.. Also unlicensed. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-lan.jpg

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Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Also no llicense. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vid-oywh.jpg

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File:Vid-oywh.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bwmoll3 (notify | contribs).

Same as most other video images, NFCC #8, doesn't add to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - very poor quality, and I can't see it adding any information at all to the article. Same goes for all the other video stills further up on this list. Justsail (talk) 18:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Ryan Tubridy Hand On Face On Tubridy Tonight.jpg

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File:Ryan Tubridy Hand On Face On Tubridy Tonight.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Candlewicke (notify | contribs).

Non-free image used to show a living person. There's nothing special about this image. It just shows a guy. Damiens.rf 21:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

True. Delete. --can dle •wicke 21:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Bryandobson.jpg

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Non-free image of a living guy. Damiens.rf 21:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. He read the news earlier so he should be still alive... --can dle •wicke 21:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Tagged this for deletion back in February because it's a replaceable fair use image, but the uploader removed the tag. It is still a replaceable fair use image, and it doesn't belong here. Somno (talk) 10:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Batch 177.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Candlewicke (notify | contribs).

Random nonfree screenshot used to decorate a plot. Damiens.rf 21:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It is not generally impossible to have a free example of a TV show, especially one where new episodes have not been filmed for over a decade and the main actor is dead... it shows a character who is central to the episode. --can dle •wicke 21:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Batch 167.jpg

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Random nonfree screenshot used to decorate a plot. Damiens.rf 21:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It is not generally impossible to have a free example of a TV show, especially one where new episodes have not been filmed for over a decade and the main actor is dead... it shows a character who is central to the episode. --can dle •wicke 21:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meteor Music Awards 2007 logo.jpg

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File:Meteor Music Awards 2007 logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Candlewicke (notify | contribs).

Not used. Damiens.rf 21:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Yes it is. 2007 Meteor Awards. --can dle •wicke 21:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, now it is. --Damiens.rf 21:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - It was also there when I created the page on 15 March... --can dle •wicke 21:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hot Press 2005 annual.jpg

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Excessive non-free magazine cover. Damiens.rf 21:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Excessive nonfree magazine cover Damiens.rf 21:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hot-Press-Xmas-Cover-2007.jpg

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File:Hot-Press-Xmas-Cover-2007.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Candlewicke (notify | contribs).

Excessive non-free magazine cover Damiens.rf 21:24, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It was to be taken in the context that the cover design has changed since then (see image in infobox). --can dle •wicke 21:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Jason Fletcher.jpg

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File:Jason Fletcher.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Monsterweb (notify | contribs).

Copyvio, judging from the credits in the image. Professional shot, dubious sourcing. J Milburn (talk) 22:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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4minutessticky.jpg

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Unjustifiable fair use image. Subjects of image are living people; this image is absolutely replaceable by a free equivalent. ÷seresin 22:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Illustrates an important part of the choreography and the whole dress and drama. The nominators explanation is unjustified because then music video images should also be nominated. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if it was needed to illustrate an important part of the choreography and the whole mess and drama (a claim which I also reject as false), there is no basis for using a non-free image. Hundreds of people have seen this performance. Free images exist. While they do, we cannot use a non-free image. ÷seresin 02:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, fails WP:NFCC#3a as there is already a non-free image on the page, that from the music video, which serves the same purpose. Stifle (talk) 21:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The images don't serve teh same purpose. The music video iamge shows an important part of the video where a screen devours everything, while the live performance video exemplifies on the costume, drama and performance of the artist. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: There's obviously quite a difference between the music video and the live performance, and this image helps give an overall idea of what Madonna's tour is like and how she performs the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikkuy (talk • contribs) 10:54, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Alecsdaniel (talk) 11:22, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Giveit2melive.jpg

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Unjustifiable fair use image. Subjects of image are living people. This image is absolutely replaceable by a free equivalent. ÷seresin 22:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Illustrates an important part of the choreography and the whole dress and drama. The nominators explanation is unjustified because then music video images should also be nominated. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if it is needed to illustrate an important part of the choreography and the whole mess and drama (a claim which I also reject as false), there is no basis for using a non-free image. Hundreds of people have seen this performance. Free images exist. While they do, we cannot use a non-free image. (As for your argument about music video images, please see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS.) ÷seresin 02:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, fails WP:NFCC#3a. Stifle (talk) 21:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Same reason as the one above. Also WP:NFCC#3a is utterly not justified here since the images portray two different meanings. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The image adequately describes the performance aspect of the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikkuy (talk • contribs) 11:01, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Alecsdaniel (talk) 11:21, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Openwourheartwhosthatgirl.jpg

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File:Openwourheartwhosthatgirl.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Legolas2186 (notify | contribs).

Unjustifiable fair use image. Subject of image is a living person; this image is absolutely replaceable by a free equivalent as it is not significant. ÷seresin 22:37, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Illustrates an important part of the choreography and the whole dress and drama. The nominators explanation is unjustified because then music video images should also be nominated. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, fails WP:NFCC#3a. Stifle (talk) 21:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, as Lego didn't watch the Blond Ambition Tour. This is clearely from "Express Yourself", where she touched the floor rather too much as seen here, while in "Open Your Heart" she only danced with the chair, never touching the ground with her hands in that position as seen here. Also, you can see her back-up dancer, Donna in the picture, while in "OYH" only one, male dancer, was on the stage. Alecsdaniel (talk) 06:18, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Kalkikoechlin.jpg

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File:Kalkikoechlin.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Legolas2186 (notify | contribs).

Unjustifiable fair use image. Subject of image is a living person; this image is absolutely replaceable by a free equivalent. ÷seresin 22:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Papadontpreach-whosthatgirltour.jpg

File:Papadontpreach-whosthatgirltour.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Frcm1988 (notify | contribs).

Unjustifiable fair use image. Subject of image is a living person; this image is absolutely replaceable by a free equivalent as it has no historical significance. ÷seresin 22:43, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Illustrates an important part of the choreography and the whole dress and drama. It passed its GA nomination where the reviewer didnot find any problem with it. The nominators explanation is unjustified because then music video images should also be nominated. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if it is needed to illustrate an important part of the choreography and the whole mess and drama (a claim which I also reject as false), there is no basis for using a non-free image. Hundreds of people have seen this performance. Free images exist. While they do, we cannot use a non-free image. As for the GA, you'll note that the NFCC violations were cited as grounds for failing at FAC—GA reviews are practically useless for legimitacy. (As for your argument about music video images, please see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS.) ÷seresin 03:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I have told you before also please donot call others reviews and comments as useless. If free images exists, then why is it not available in commons? It is perfectly legitimate to use a non-free image untill a free equivalent exists. As pointed out, your basis of calling the image as failing NFCC#8 has also been counter-answered. Only text doesnot improve the readers understanding. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:44, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - clearly replaceable if needed with a free alternative. The text in the article covers it sufficiently so that it seems already replaced. fails NFCC#1 and 8 - Peripitus (Talk) 04:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Farhanzoyapromotion.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Farhanzoyapromotion.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Legolas2186 (notify | contribs).

Unjustifiable fair use image. Subjects of image are living people; this image is absolutely replaceable by a free equivalent. ÷seresin 22:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Vivalavida1.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Unjustifiable fair use image. Provides no information as to the video itself. It is solely a close shot of a singer, which could be replaced by a free image. ÷seresin 22:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The image visually describes the music video's overall theme and setting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikkuy (talk • contribs) 10:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Just a close shot of the singer's face. Alecsdaniel (talk) 11:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Dontstopthemusicvideo.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Superfluous FU image. There is already a (fair use) clip of the video in the article — this image is therefore unjustified. ÷seresin 22:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the article also contains an audio clip... aside from the video clip, and this screen clip. 70.29.210.174 (talk) 03:51, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Not everyone wants to wait for a video to load or have it slow down their computer. The image is therfore justified.

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Madonnaliveearth.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:04, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Unjustified FU image. Subjects are living people; this image is absolutely replaceable with a free image. ÷seresin 23:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Illustrates an important part of the choreography and the whole dress and drama. It passed its GA nomination where the reviewer didnot find any problem with it. The nominators explanation is unjustified because then music video images should also be nominated. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete, seems to fail WP:NFCC#8. A large number of music video images have been and are regularly nominated for deletion. Stifle (talk) 21:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is not a music video iamge and is ofa live performance where Madonna's dress and children like the Hogwarts choir are not merely describabale by words. 171.161.160.10 (talk) 10:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The image fails WP:NFCC#8 as the image does not enhance to the readers' understand of the topic. Personally, I don't learn anything new from the image. I don't find it difficult to imagine Madonna wearing a black satin leotard (the least important point of the image) while being accompanied by a school children choir. The text clearly illustrates it for me. — Σ xplicit 01:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Gagamaericanidol.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: - Delete - fails WP:NFCC#1 as replaceable with free alternatives....also orphaned at the moment - Peripitus (Talk) 04:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Unjustifiable FU image. Subject is a living person, and is absolutely replaceable by a free image. ÷seresin 23:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Illustrates an important part of the choreography and the whole dress and drama. It passed its GA nomination where the reviewer didnot find any problem with it. The nominators explanation is unjustified because then music video images should also be nominated. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- There already exists a free image describing "the whole dress and drama". The second one is decorative, as this performance was not particularly significant. ÷seresin 03:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep See the above. Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 05:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, merely an image of the performer which could be replaced by a textual description. Stifle (talk) 21:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just expiain to me how it is describabale by words to be visualising the imagery. 171.161.160.10 (talk) 10:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The image significantly contributes to the quality and encyclopedic value of the article. It is used in the "Live performance" section of the article where at least one photograph is necessary. An illustration of such importance speaks much greater than words.• вяαdcяo chat 09:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The image represents fairly a highly publicised and notable performance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikkuy (talk • contribs) 10:57, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this is not the performance on "American Idol," she was wearing a pink plastic bubble costume in that performance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.56 (talk) 19:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Have you even watched the performance? No bubble dress is evident. The image is clearly her performance on American Idol. Watch it here! • вяαdcяo chat 07:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support It doesn't really add anything to the Poker Face article, which is the only page it's linked to. Besides, it was deleted from Lady Gaga. Clem (talk) 05:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 *[[Thommie Walsh]] was a famous dancer who has been photographed professionally and informally thousands of times. It should not be very difficult to find a photo and get it released under a free license. [[User:Damiens.rf|Damiens<small>.rf</small>]] 03:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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