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::Dehydration would certainly be an unpleasant experience for a healthy person. On the other hand, there is abundant and convincing medical literature indicating that dehydration in a terminally ill patient is a different experience. PMID 9518401 from the ''[[Annals of Internal Medicine]]'' is typical; the authors state: ''Evidence indicates that death by terminal dehydration is not painful and that attendant physical discomfort can be adequately alleviated.'' In the case of a person in a persistent vegetative state, discomfort from a conscious sensation like thirst would be even less likely than in a conscious, terminally ill patient. '''[[User:MastCell|MastCell]]''' <sup>[[User Talk:MastCell|Talk]]</sup> 07:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC) |
::Dehydration would certainly be an unpleasant experience for a healthy person. On the other hand, there is abundant and convincing medical literature indicating that dehydration in a terminally ill patient is a different experience. PMID 9518401 from the ''[[Annals of Internal Medicine]]'' is typical; the authors state: ''Evidence indicates that death by terminal dehydration is not painful and that attendant physical discomfort can be adequately alleviated.'' In the case of a person in a persistent vegetative state, discomfort from a conscious sensation like thirst would be even less likely than in a conscious, terminally ill patient. '''[[User:MastCell|MastCell]]''' <sup>[[User Talk:MastCell|Talk]]</sup> 07:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Assuming doctors and micael were correct --[[Special:Contributions/71.131.30.178|71.131.30.178]] ([[User talk:71.131.30.178|talk]]) 06:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC) |
:::Assuming doctors and micael were correct --[[Special:Contributions/71.131.30.178|71.131.30.178]] ([[User talk:71.131.30.178|talk]]) 06:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::: There is no documented way to determine whether a person suffers or not without communicating with the person. So the above evidence is absolutely worthless. M99 [[Special:Contributions/87.59.102.169|87.59.102.169]] ([[User talk:87.59.102.169|talk]]) |
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== Terri Schiavo Biography == |
== Terri Schiavo Biography == |
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I was wondering as to what the consensus would be to add biographical details to this article? I realize that the subject of this article is not entirely Terri Schiavo herself but rather the scandal concerning her, yet still I think it would be valuable to have some background information on her life perhaps to be included in the 'Background' section. Views, anyone? [[User:Deyyaz|Deyyaz]] <sup>[ [[User talk:Deyyaz|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Deyyaz|Contribs]] ]</sup> 23:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
I was wondering as to what the consensus would be to add biographical details to this article? I realize that the subject of this article is not entirely Terri Schiavo herself but rather the scandal concerning her, yet still I think it would be valuable to have some background information on her life perhaps to be included in the 'Background' section. Views, anyone? [[User:Deyyaz|Deyyaz]] <sup>[ [[User talk:Deyyaz|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Deyyaz|Contribs]] ]</sup> 23:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
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Insane postulate that death by dehydration is "not associated with suffering"
What is this bullshit? There is no painkiller that can alleviate the feeling of thirst. It sounds like the typical biased opinion by doctors that their patients "feel no pain". Did they ask them? Wow this is far out... T.R. 87.59.77.244 (talk) 05:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Given that she was in a persisent vegativative state all evidence would conclude that Terri would have slipped to death without being able to feel pain. While it is somewhat impossible to know if this is true or not, her being removed from life support was not meant as a form of torture as the assoicated phrase would imply. As such, I would say any such mention to suffering as a result of dehydration would be non NPOV, which is likely the reasoning for any exclusion of text. -Kirkoconnell (talk) 12:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Dehydration would certainly be an unpleasant experience for a healthy person. On the other hand, there is abundant and convincing medical literature indicating that dehydration in a terminally ill patient is a different experience. PMID 9518401 from the Annals of Internal Medicine is typical; the authors state: Evidence indicates that death by terminal dehydration is not painful and that attendant physical discomfort can be adequately alleviated. In the case of a person in a persistent vegetative state, discomfort from a conscious sensation like thirst would be even less likely than in a conscious, terminally ill patient. MastCell Talk 07:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Assuming doctors and micael were correct --71.131.30.178 (talk) 06:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Dehydration would certainly be an unpleasant experience for a healthy person. On the other hand, there is abundant and convincing medical literature indicating that dehydration in a terminally ill patient is a different experience. PMID 9518401 from the Annals of Internal Medicine is typical; the authors state: Evidence indicates that death by terminal dehydration is not painful and that attendant physical discomfort can be adequately alleviated. In the case of a person in a persistent vegetative state, discomfort from a conscious sensation like thirst would be even less likely than in a conscious, terminally ill patient. MastCell Talk 07:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- There is no documented way to determine whether a person suffers or not without communicating with the person. So the above evidence is absolutely worthless. M99 87.59.102.169 (talk)
Terri Schiavo Biography
I was wondering as to what the consensus would be to add biographical details to this article? I realize that the subject of this article is not entirely Terri Schiavo herself but rather the scandal concerning her, yet still I think it would be valuable to have some background information on her life perhaps to be included in the 'Background' section. Views, anyone? Deyyaz [ Talk | Contribs ] 23:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Semiprotected for 3 days
Due to an ongoing high level of anon editor vandalism I have semiprotected the page for 3 days.
Looking at this history I hope it won't be necessary to make this permanent, hopefully the current surge of attention fades. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 22:45, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
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