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June 20

When I view Wikipedia in English, why are temperatures in Kelvin and Celsius. Fahrenheit is America's standard. Can something automatically convert the temps to Fahrenheit?

Collapsing a Template

How do I make template collapsed only in a particular article? --Stepusual (talk) 04:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

You can simply put a collapsible table around it to collapse it. I left an example below. But out of interest, why would you want to collapse an infobox? Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 08:35, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Collapsed Infobox

Primavera Systems, Inc [[File:- |frameless|upright=1]] Company type Private Industry Computer software Project Portfolio Management Project Management Founded 1983 Headquarters Philadelphia, PA , USA Products Primavera P6 Primavera ProSight Primavera Contract Manager Primavera Pertmaster Primavera Cost Manager Revenue $127.7 Million USD (+13% FY '06 to '07) Number of employees 403 (2006) Website www.primavera.com

Please see MOS:SCROLL. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I meant a template, not an Infobox. See, for instance, this template:

It is set to auto-expanded and appears as such here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell What if I wanted it to be collapsed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell_(film) while still having it be expanded in the previous article? --Stepusual (talk) 00:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps the following is what you're looking for

• {{collapse top}}
• content
• {{collapse bottom}}

maybe the navbox function is set to autoshow? — Ched :  ?  04:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Difficulty logging in to Wikipedia

I created an account with WikiMedia in order to upload a picture for the article on Yawgoog Scout Reservation. Are my username and password the same for Wikipedia? If so, for some reason, I cannot login. If not, I am getting a message that the username I'm using for WikiMedia (that I want to use for Wikipedia) is already in use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.3.155 (talk) 05:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes and no. By default a Wikipedia username is not registered on every wiki when you sign up at a particular project; So if you only want to register at a particular project this is possible. You can, however, unify your account so that it will be valid for each Wiki project controlled by the wikimedia foundation. Information on this can be found Here. For using the SUL Procedure itself you should go to a wiki where you already have an account, an navigate to Special:MergeAccount. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 08:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

References query

Articles are written, and historical references, in the form of current links, are given in articles. What happens when the link to a reference is subsequently broken or removed e.g. original site, from whence the reference came, closes down (web sites come and go all the time for different reasons) or itself does not archive/continue to archive the article which is being referenced in Wikipedia? How does Wikipedia ensure that the links to these references are still going to be available several years down the line? (even when original site, from whence the reference came, subsequently closes down or itself does not archive the article, or if a blogger site reference, the blogger dies and no-one maintains his articles?) Helpin Hands (talk) 07:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Dead external links. It's best to replace the reference if possible. And for the record, we don't usually use blogs as references since they are not usually reliable sources. Chamal ^talk 07:45, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

energy and environment

In April I came across the article about Energy & Environment. It was hopelessly biased. I made some changes, others replaced the original content. I put up the banner 'neutrality disputed'. There was considerable discussion on the talk page. None of my compromise points were considered. Now I find the old article is back in place, and the 'neutrality disputed' banner is gone (I put it back about 9am, by 10.20 it had disappeared again. How do we stop people using Wikipedia for their own agenda and not permitting a balanced account of a topic to be displayed? Mary 4444 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.206.148 (talk) 09:29, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Diffing trough the edits from respectively your IP and your username(Mary4444), i tend to agree with William and Stephen that you edits violate WP:NPOV. Edits such as this one and this one are both little more then completely unreferenced claims which only dispute the factual accuracy of added sources. Wikipedia is not a place for origional research, or for adding opinions. Any information on Wikipedia should be neutral, and must be verifiable trough reliable sources.

Similary, lines such as "Global warming enthusiasts could only squeal that M&M were not climate scientists, sneer at the journals supposed lack of peer-review (as if an outsider could possibly know), but they couldn't prove M&M wrong." are an absolute no go. These sort of lines are little more then libel and viewpoint pushing. As for how to solve this: Find Reliable sources that back your claims, and incorporate them into the article if they offer relevant information. And make sure that any text added is not a sneer towards a group of people who don't seem to agree with you - that is an absolute no go. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 10:23, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

merge needed

Could someone sort out a merge between seedcake and seed cake please? Or at least disambiguate somehow. I find the merge instructions rather complicated and reckon someone else could fix it in a fraction of the time it would take me. Thanks.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Seedcake used to redirect to Bush bread. I changed it to redirect to Seed cake. Do you think it should be a disambiguation instead? Zain Ebrahim (talk) 10:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure to what extent they are the same thing. I'll put a note on the talk page of each.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Edit Count

How do I insert the edit count into a userbox using the MediaWiki API? Arlen22 (talk) 12:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

There is no singular nor simple answer for this question. The mediawiki API is a shell around wikipedia that allows automated tools (EG:Bots) to simply communicate with Wikipedia. In order to edit a page trough the API you will need some programming skills to write a script that can handle API communication. The exact code for this operation depends upon the programming language, and on the matter if you use on of the several frameworks available for certain programming lnaguages.

In essence it can be summed up as:

1. Connect to Wikipedia and log in.
2. Fetch the page required.
3. Change the value in the page (Probally trough a regex).
4. Save the page again.

Note that if this task is automated, you will need to receive approval trough WP:RFBA. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 13:32, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

What links here

How do I find the articles that are linking to another article from within its contents, and not the template boxes? I wanted to get a list of articles mentioning Fathom Five National Marine Park, I clicked on the "What links here" and got plenty of entries. But I see that most of the entries have the "National Parks of Canada" template box, which has the Fathom Five link in it. I do not want results that are returned because of a template box, but only genuine references. I clicked on the "Hide transclusions" filter but that didn't help. Jay (talk) 18:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know of a really easy way to do this. But there are some not-so-easy ways.

• Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:National parks of Canada shows that most of the pages transcluding this template are themselves the articles about national parks that the template links to. So, you could grep -v the list from Special:WhatLinksHere/Fathom Five National Marine Park to remove the articles you don't care about. See wget, cURL, and Pipeline (Unix) for a way to capture the output of a special page into a text file, which you could then process with the usual Unix/Linux tools such as grep, sort, and so on to do a type of poor man's query. (wget and cURL capture HTML, which could get ugly; Lynx (web browser) can capture a plain text rendering of a Web page, which is then easier to process with Unix tools.) For example, capture the two "what links here" pages to text files, sort them, and then diff them. That should show the links to Fathom Five National Marine Park from pages that do not contain the {{National parks of Canada}} template. (However, that would exclude articles that might have non-template links in addition to the template.)
  • If you are not running Unix, Linux, or a Unix-like environment such as Cygwin, the above suggestions won't make any sense.
• Or you could read the links under WP:EIW#Query and possibly find a sophisticated way to do the query you are after.
• One rather ugly brute-force possibility might be to create a redirect page that links to Fathom Five National Marine Park, temporarily change the link in {{National parks of Canada}} to the redirect (note that you typed the word "parks" incorrectly with a capital "P" in your question - it's important to get letter case correct when typing a page title), wait a couple of days for the change to propagate through the servers, and then Special:WhatLinksHere/Fathom Five National Marine Park might show which incoming links are going through the redirect. Users should not be too inconvenienced during the test because the template link through the redirect would still work. If you decide to try this, explain what you are doing on the template talk page, and when you finish, revert your change in the template back to the real page. If you make a legitimate redirect page (for example, from an alternative spelling that some user might conceivably type), then you would have added value when you finish your test.

--Teratornis (talk) 19:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

I caught some vandalism on the Sean Combs article, undid it, and then happened to check the IP address (76.223.242.218) to see if there was anymore vandalism in his/her history. There was, so I reverted anything that hadn't already been reverted. I went through the FAQs and then went to the .. section to report vandalism, I forget what it's called? I'm not sure if what's on the individual's talk page counts as a warning, so I don't know if I can really add them to the vandalism thing to be reviewed, but it's obvious they're just going through random articles making nonsense edits. Would someone mind explaining to me what I should do? Or maybe someone else could take the appropriate action? I've only been here a day, so I'm a little lost.. thanks :) JerseyGirlMedia (talk) 22:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello, JerseyGirlMedia! I've added a "next-level" warning to the IP's Talk page. While some editors take a tougher stand and jump a level, I usually prefer to go one level of warning at a time. You'll find my warning levels in this section of my "Keepsakes" page. At this point, I just keep an eye on the IP and hope the vandalism from that address stops. It often does. If the IP vandal strikes again, I go to the next higher level warning. And only if the vandalism continues to the "BLOCK" level do I request an admin to block the User. The vandalism Help page you're looking for is probably the one at this link. Hope this helps!  ^{.`</sup>^) Paine Ellsworth<sup>diss`cuss} (^^`.  22:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for enlightening me :) Do you mind if other people borrow your vandilism templates? And as I read it, you have 4 levels, so the fourth warning you make, do you then add the person to the list for being blocked? (I can't find the thing I initially found when searching for information on vandilism, do you have any idea what I'm talking about? lol)

And I don't know if this is relevant or not, but the same IP address just made another edit to the Jay Mohr article, but I don't think it's really vandilism, I just can't figure out if he added the information that he then removed. Maybe he's just being facetious because he was warned. Should I do anything?

Thanks again for doing that and explaining everything to me, sorry to bug you further! JerseyGirlMedia (talk) 03:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

For future reference, a list of standard warnings is available at WP:WARN. You can use this sequence for basic vandalism: {{uw-vandalism1}}, {{uw-vandalism2}}, {{uw-vandalism3}}, then {{uw-vandalism4}}. The warning page also explains the format to use for the talk page. hmwithτ 06:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Search Engine

Every time i log into Wikipedia, i cannot type into the search box on the task bar on the left. But when i log out i can type in it. BasilRazi (talk) 23:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it is a bug in Javascript. Go to preferences>Gadgets>User-interface gadgets and make sure the "Focus the cursor in the search bar on loading the Main Page." is unchecked. ZooFari 03:13, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

June 21

Mass Template Adding

Is there a way I can have a bot do a mass adding of templates? I'd like to add this template to the pages in this category. Thank You! ISTHnR | Knock Knock | Who's There? 02:11, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't recall a bot, but I will use a repetitive software (AWB) to add them. ZooFari 03:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

It's a large navigation template and we have List of films released by New Line Cinema. Maybe this should be discussed first at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, and for a start, I've collapsed the template. ZooFari 03:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Similarly we have WP:BOTREQ, for bot requests. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 09:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

javascript/scripting language

why scripting using javascript is better than scripting using other scripting languages??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zee4 khan007 (talk • contribs) 04:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Try asking at Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. —teb728 t c 04:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

We do have the JavaScript article which might be helpful. Personally I've never thought of it as better, but rather something that is very functional within html, and easy to use for non-programmers. Perhaps the term popular would be a better description, and at this point it it very ingrained into webpages throughout the Internet. — Ched :  ?  04:27, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Short Explanations After Linked Words, Is It Acceptable Here?

I'd like to state first off that I understand Wikipedia is a public venture, and not to be treated as an encyclopedia, but I have learned more things about more subjects on Wikipedia than I have anywhere else on the Internet. I am grateful for that. There is one thing, however, that I've found to be a nuisance. The links are a problem for me. I find if I'm reading an article about a subject of which I know very little, and if I encounter a word or term I'm unfamiliar with, I am always and forever having to click on the links just to get a definition. So my question is this: Wouldn't it make more sense to include, perhaps in parenthesis after the link, a small explanation of what the linked word means? To cut down on the number of times a reader has to click on a link just to get the gyst of the article?

For instance, if you go to the page titled Biology, about three paragraphs down you will see in blue the linked word "botany", followed by the words, "the study of plants". Without the words, "the study of plants", a reader not familiar with the word "botany" would have to click on the linked word for a definition. Each and every click, in my opinion, is an interruption to the flow of the article and thus, an interruption to the education of the reader. And isn't that why Wikipedia exists in the first place? To educate readers?

While I can't speak for all readers of course, I find that many times when I run across an unfamiliar word or term all I need (or want) is a brief definition. If I want more in-depth information, the linked word is there to allow me to learn more.

I have toyed with the idea of adding definitions after some of the linked words in articles I have read, in the belief that if it would help me, surely it would help others, but I'm unfamiliar with what is allowed here in that regard. I've spent some time searching for an answer to my question and I haven't been able to find anything on this subject. Hopefully this page is the right place to ask a question such as mine.

Once again, as I stated earlier, I am grateful for the existence of Wikipedia and all that it has to offer. Keep up the good work all! Mirabellayellow (talk) 06:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

You should really consider enabling navigation popups in your preferences (link is at the top right when you're logged in). You can enable it by checking it off in the gadgets menu. This feature will cause the first paragraph of an article to "pop up" when you place your mouse over a link, which should be exactly what you're looking for. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

As for your idea of adding definitions of linked words, don't do it. Hyperlinks are an important advantage that Wikipedia has over conventional encyclopedias, since there is no need to provide explanations of everything. Adding such explanations will only make the article longer, difficult to read and will irritate the readers that do not want it. A hyperlink on the other hand, needs to be clicked on only if you want to read that page. Chamal ^talk 08:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

One option that is available is Wiktionary. You should provide a Wiktionary link if you are using a word that does not have an article here, but may not be generally known (such as persnickety). TNXMan 14:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Also see the Simple English Wikipedia. And note that learning the jargon in a field is always a critical part of learning the field. Someone who is unfamiliar with the specific terms in a subject such as Biology will have a very difficult time reading the literature on the subject, until he or she learns those terms. It may help to read through a glossary on the subject, at least once per day, for several days in a row until the information sinks in. (See: Portal:Contents/List of glossaries.) The first time a person sees an unfamiliar term, it goes into short term memory. Short term memory is very limited, so after just a few unfamiliar terms it overflows and the person feels confused and overwhelmed. By reviewing the material day after day, the student gradually drives the information into long term memory which is effectively unlimited in capacity. It's surprising that schools exist to help students learn, but they don't really explain the process of learning so students understand how to do it on their own. We all spend hours studying, but we aren't necessarily conscious of what our brains are doing. And once we learn something, we forget what it was like not to know it - that's probably the most amazing aspect of learning. --Teratornis (talk) 18:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Since Wikipedia is not paper, we have unlimited room for an introductory article on a subject in addition to a more technical article. See for example:

• General relativity
• Introduction to general relativity

So, if you find articles that are too technical for beginners, you can help in at least two ways:

1. Create an introductory article.
2. Create a glossary on a subject if one does not already exist.

Doing either of these things is also a good way to teach yourself about a subject.

--Teratornis (talk) 18:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

empty lines

How do you get empty lines to appear between paragraphs, etc? This is a pretty stupid question, forgive me, I live in a cave. Myth1000 (talk) 08:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

You just have to leave a blank line when typing in the edit box. For example, like this:

Example text.

<blank line comes here>

Example text.

Hope that is clear. Cheers. Chamal ^talk 08:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

So you type "<nowiki>"?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Myth1000 (talk • contribs)

No, you should not; Because replies here are indented it the newlines fail to appear here. The no wiki in this example is not strictly required. The ::<nowiki><blank line comes here></nowiki> should have no content at all. Just like it says, it should simply be a blank line between two texts. Once you do that in a normal, non idented text, you should have a nice new line between the example texts :) Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 09:16, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

empty lines again

I think just accidentally destroyed someone elses question there. Look, Chamal, in your reply, there was an empty line after the second example text but not before the first. Am I right? How did you do that? By using the space bar a lot? Myth1000 (talk) 09:07, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

That is actomatically achieved thanks to a different indent for the response lines. You will also see that empty line between my question and yours - but this is not the way to add blank lines. For a blank line you should specifically leave an empty line between two texts. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 09:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

empty lines again

But how do you leave the empty line? With spaces? Specifically, if I want to insert a para between two paras, with empty lines before and after, say. Myth1000 (talk) 09:20, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Use the "Enter" (aka return) key on your keyboard. I left two empty lines between your post and mine by hitting "Enter" twice. 59.95.110.112 (talk) 09:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

• Please go to WP:SANDBOX to carry out test, don't do here. I've removed your test threads from below. 59.95.110.112 (talk) 09:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

That is the right answer. Why you feel the need to get snotty about it, in your edit summary, "Now this is getting close to trolling", I'll never know. I didn't put a test there, I was asking a question. Myth1000 (talk) 09:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Eh... you did? The sandbox, as the IP correctly stated, is the best area to test anything you want to try, simply because its made for that purpose. The help desk, on the other hand, is not. The IP simply stated this - why call him snotty after he helped you? Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 10:05, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry; I realized my edit summary was inappropriate right after I clicked save. Apologies, 59.95.102.85 (talk) 14:54, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice one. I shouldn't have thrown my toys on the floor. Cheers Myth1000 (talk) 16:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Moving files into Wikimedia commons

I want to move a file existing in wikipedia (under a free licence (Attribution-Share Alike 3.0)) that is missing in commons. If I do this, it can be used in all wikimedia sister projects (right?) and not only wikipedia (en). My question is: Is there a tool or shortcut to do this, or it must be done manually? If I do it manually, should I first erase the existing file in wikipedia? (I mean, what happens if I upload it to commons and the file also exist in wikipedia? Does this makes an error?). - Damërung ^{...ÏìíÏ...}_{_Ξ_} . --  08:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons has detailed instructions.--Commander Keane (talk) 09:04, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Where's the board?

Hello,

In the labyrinthine world of Wikipedia I don’t know if there’s a board where I can complain about a possible improper use of administrator powers over me. Thank you for the information.

Thantalteresco (talk) 10:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

there isnt a board that over sees en.wikipedia it functions by community consensus, if wish start a discussion suggest that you post a note to WP:AN/I, but remember to notify the admin if you do so. Gnangarra 10:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, as Gnagarra notes, WP:ANI is the best place for such a discussion. However, please remember that any complaints must be written fairly and shouldn't attack anyone. TNXMan 14:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

My application of the {{editsemiprotected}} tag

Hello, something tells me I have not properly applied the template in this edit [1], yet I cut-and-pasted it from the box. Could I get a heads-up on what I did wrong? Thanks, Abrazame (talk) 11:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

An editor has told me that I did it correctly, so there is no need to respond to this question and I am unwatching this page. Thanks, Abrazame (talk) 14:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Setting up a vote on Wikipedia

There is currently a discussion on Wikimedia Commons regarding the flag of the Republic of China. Since the government doesn't provide any specification for their flag, several editors have tried to approximate the colors based on different sources, but in the end everybody have different preferences so no consensus has been reached as of yet. So in order to reach this consensus, I'm thinking that we could organize of vote, as it as been done for the Polish flag. i.e. we we would propose two or three different options and ask editors to choose their favorite one. So my questions are: do you think this kind of vote would be appropriate on Wikipedia? If so, do you know what is the procedure to follow to setup the vote? Thanks, Laurent (talk) 12:11, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Anybody? :) Laurent (talk) 10:43, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't such a vote be set up at Commons where the file is? The English community cannot decide to change something that is the same on many projects and as such, I see no point in voting here, even if possible. You should probably ask at Commons (Commons:Help desk) instead. Regards SoWhy 10:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a democracy. Voting is discouraged. Consensus is the preferred method. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 18:23, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox Festival

I have continued to try and create an infobox festival for the Vermont State Fair page, and it has continued to say Template:Infobox Festival in red, can I have some help with this? Mr. Prez (talk) 13:21, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Can you give the page where you tried to create the template? I've looked through your contributions and I didn't see any edits in the template namespace that are relevant to the infobox you mention. Chamal ^talk 13:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. You may have capitalized the word "festival", which would cause the template to turn into a redlink. TNXMan 14:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

changes in industrialization affects fertility

how would changes in industrialization urbanization and economic development affects fertility —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.219.243.242 (talk) 14:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The humanities or science reference desks may be able to help you answer this question. However, please note that Wikipedia will not do your homework for you. TNXMan 14:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Searching history

Is there any easy way of searching an article's entire history? Many articles have a lot of useful information in their previous versions that doesn't appear in the current version, and it's a pain in the neck to have to trawl through sometimes hundreds of revisions to find what you're looking for. --88.110.22.156 (talk) 15:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure how to do this from the search interface but it you add the template {{Search archives}} to a talk page there will be a search box on that page that will just search the archives. For an example of a page that uses this page see Talk:Federal_Reserve_System or see the template itself: Template:Search archives. Hope that helps! meshach (talk) 16:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the OP wants to search the article history, not the talk page. If looking for a specific change, then searching the edit summaries in the history is problematic, as you are assuming that the summary exists or is useful. If trying to determine the revision when something was added or removed, then try WikiBlame. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Or you can click on the "History" tab of the page you're interested in, and then click on the "Revision history search" link. Laurent (talk) 20:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah- had not noticed that WikiBlame was in the tools section. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

You're both right, I misread the question. Thanks for clarifying. meshach (talk) 21:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Missing image File:Allanblackia stuhlmannii (Clusiaceae).png

I've just noticed that an image I uploaded to the commons last week, File:Allanblackia stuhlmannii (Clusiaceae).png, has gone missing. The image was PD (from the Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary). It doesn't look like it's been deleted -- it's just not there anymore. Can anyone suggest what's happened? Should I upload it again? Pburka (talk) 16:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure a file was uploaded? It looks like you created [2] the page commons:File:Allanblackia stuhlmannii (Clusiaceae).png without uploading a file. None of your uploads have "Created page" in the edit summary. Either way, I suggest trying to upload it again. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Very odd. I could have sworn I'd uploaded it, but maybe there was some sort of error. I've uploaded it again. Thanks for your help. Pburka (talk) 16:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

June 22

gif "movie" image malfs on Mozilla

The moving image Young.gif works o.k. on Safari and also on IE Explorer, but something is making it show a large black rectangle as the last image in the series, making what would otherwise look like an unending process seem to be interrupted.

I will see whether editing the image carefully on my Mac will make any improvement. I do not have the best software, however. 152.17.53.105 (talk) 00:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Young.gif looks fine in my Mozilla Firefox 3.0.11. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The file also displays fine for me in Mozilla 3.0.11 (no black block breaking the cycle). Are you using an older version - or perhaps have an add-on that's interfering? --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 01:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Phantom Lapboard

I an the CEO of Phantom Entertainment, which makes the Phantom Lapboard. Every time I try to update the page a bot removes all my edits. Many new items need to be written and the website url is wrong. How can I change this?

John Landino <blanked> Phei.comeback (talk) 01:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

For the record, this user emailed me asking a similar question after I posted {{uw-coi}} on his userpage. I responded to that email with advice, the relevant portion of which is below:

Hi John. The best thing to do when you have a conflict of interest with regards to a topic you wish to edit, is to add the information you would want to add to the article, to the article's talk page (in this case, that would be here). On that page, add the information that you would like added to the article, and cite it - to reliable, third-party sources wherever possible. When you have done this, other editors who do not have a conflict will be able to add the information in a neutral, encyclopedic manner. If you feel able to add the information to the article yourself in a neutral manner and keeping the right tone, feel free to go ahead.

If you have any further questions or need help, feel free to contact me, either by email or on my talk page.

Did I cover everything? Dreaded Walrus ^{t c} 02:06, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. --Teratornis (talk) 03:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

And WP:Spam. – ukexpat (talk) 15:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

(top)

What does (top) in front of a contribution mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shraktu (talk • contribs) 07:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

(top) stands for Topmost. If a contribution is marked as top, it means that that contribution is the current version of the article. In other words: its the last contribution to that article. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 07:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Large Appearances

Resolved

I see everything, text, images... very large, Is this just me or is it something new from the Wikipedia? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 07:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Images almost seemed blurred also ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 08:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

There has been no change that i am aware of - Did you by any chance change your monitor's resolution? Or did you accidentally zoom in your browser (Ctrl + Mousewheel)? Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 08:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Uh! I'm such a fool! I've been scrolling a lot and I've been resting my hand on the left side if keyboard. I had no idea you can zoom in like that. Awesome! You have made my day! Gosh you're wise, You're WikiYoda! I'm adding you to my favorites list! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:06, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Glad to help ;) Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 09:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The "user contributions" link

In the toolbox isn't there anymore. Well, it is for a moment when I go to a user page, then it disappears. I don't see anything in the recent changes of MediaWiki pages, so what's going on? ÷seresin 08:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

If it's there, then disappears, then it's being removed by javascript. Perhaps one of your custom scripts is interacting badly with a sitewide change. Try selectively disabling them to find the culprit. Algebraist 09:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Monobook

Per:Monobook.js. User:TheDJ/Qui. The script their isn't known to be bad or "malicious" is it? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Its a fine script - i have been using it for quite some time with no side effects. Also, a short evaluation of the script source reveals nothing potentionally harmful. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 09:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Sub pages allowed in the user space.

Is there a policy about specifically what is allowed in user subpages. I have found the policy on user pages and the policy on subpages but I am not clear about user subs. I saw a user page that was never intended to be of use to the project. It is the users schedule for a trip. Should I nom for deletion? Should I just leave it alone? Should I post a link here for others to look at? Thanks.--Adam in MO Talk 10:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

In this case we have the WP:NOTWEBHOST policy - Pages that are not related to wikipedia (Such as social networks, communication, blogs, and so on) should indeed be tagged for removal. This is actually partly covered under WP:UP#NOT. I would suggest placing a PROD on the page first, as WP:NOT is not a valid reason for a CSD tag. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 10:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

PROD is only for mainspace articles. Userspace pages can be nominated at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion if there is no valid reason for a CSD tag. You can try contacting the user first and give them a link to Wikipedia:User page. See Wikipedia:User page#Deleting user pages and subpages. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

O yes... we were talking about a user page - been a while since i patrolled those. Thanks for catching that prime :). Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 11:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

WP:User page applies to all pages in the user namespace, including subpages. hmwithτ 16:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikify table

Could someone please wikify this table? I am very poor at wikimarkup!! Thanks a lot. --Siddhant (talk) 10:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

• Track listings are not presented in tables; see Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums#Track listing. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
• I changed the article and swapped the HTML table for a wiki table, and used italic text instead of bold text for the song names. Did you mean anything like this when you said it should be wikified? Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 10:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

• • I reformatted it. Song titles are in quotes, albums in italics. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 12:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Admin

Is there anyway I can get a free admin coach? Looks like the coaches in the admin coaching program are all taken ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 11:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The best bet is to sign up at WP:ADMINCOACH and wait for a position to come available. The other option is to approach an admin willing to admin coach directly, but this is not always possible. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 11:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... the list of admin requests is kind of mess, meaning it probably isn't updated, so I'm sure I'll never get one there! I guess I might just have to post an ad on my user page ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 12:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

How do I find the thesaurus on Wikipedia?

How do I find the thesaurus on Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LLane18 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

• There is no thesaurus on Wikipedia, as Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Wiktionary incorporates a thesaurus. Algebraist 12:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
• If you are looking for a page about thesaurus then its as simple as clicking the link i just added. If you are looking for thesaurus functionality, then perhaps our sister site wikitionary can help. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 12:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Reverting without seeking consensus

I'm having an issue in the European Union article. I've created a new map, which I think is better than the previous one and I've explained my reasons in the talk page. However, a group of editors keep undoing my changes without making any comments. I know we are supposed to work through consensus, but what can I do if the other editors are not bothered to discuss the issue or even to put an edit summary? Is it ok to keep reverting them as if it was vandalism? (I've already reverted three times today) Any suggestions? Thanks, Laurent (talk) 13:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

This sounds more like a content dispute. If the editor(s) refuse to discuss the issue on the talk page, you may want to request a third opinion. Also, did you try dropping a note on their talk page? If they won't discuss the issue, then I don't see why they should complain. TNXMan 13:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Unsure of article placement?

> I am trying to create an article about the National Barbecue > Association but I am not sure which sub-category to place it under... > I would like to place it under the sub-topic "Non-Profits" but am not > sure how to accomplish that. 65.214.103.203 (talk) 16:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.

As for the placement of the article in a subcategory, simply add [[category:<CategoryName>]] to the article. An example of adding a nonprofit category would be: [[Category:Nonprofit organizations]] Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 16:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry about categorisation yet, make sure that your subject meets the notability criteria first. – ukexpat (talk) 16:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

how to post a biography

I have read the "Your First article" , "Manual of Style (biographies)" and sample biographies, but cannot find the "sandbox" or "user page" needed to get started. after i log in, from the main page, where do I go to set started entering the material for a biography, please? thank you Minnaolive (talk) 17:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 17:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

You can use User:Minnaolive/Sandbox as a sandbox, and User:Minnaolive is your user page. To create content there just edit and save something there. —teb728 t c 19:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I have created the sandbox for you by adding the {{User sandbox}} template to User:Minnaolive/Sandbox, and I added a link to it on your user page. – ukexpat (talk) 19:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Health questions on reference desk.

i know we are not suposed to ask for medical advice on the reference desk but this confuses me. Am i alowed to ask questions such as what compresion bandage works the best or is that considerd to much of a health question. What if it isnt a question about a serious health issue such as cliping finger nails to short or getting a briuse from stubing my toe i understand that there would be leagle problems with a serious health question but what if it isnt. could i ask a question like "is it ok to not have a rest day in my workout rotine and insted never work the same muscles 2 days in a row". thanks it would be appreciated if the rule about health questions was more specific when refuring to health and if it had some sugestions.--76.235.193.24 (talk) 18:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The place to discuss the reference desk is WT:RD. Algebraist 18:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) I think it depends on whether you're asking for directions on what to do or whether you're asking for what could happen. For example, asking "What happens if I clip my nails to short?" could be OK, because there are specific things that can happen. Asking how close to clip them or whether or not it's dangerous is probably asking too much. TNXMan 18:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
• Similarly asking "Is X a symptom of disease Y" is acceptable; Asking "I got Symptom X, do i have disease Y?" is not. You can actually check this by asking yourself: "Am i asking a knowledge question, or am i asking for advice or a judgement?" If the answer is the former, it ok to ask it at the reference desk. If not, then its a medical question and should be avoided. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 18:25, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
• Yet another way to put it: If a responder needs to diagnose your health problem, make a prognosis about the future of your health, or suggest treatment for your health problem, then you shouldn't ask the question. The RD responders are not supposed to make a diagnosis, prognosis, or treatment recommendation. -- kainaw™ 18:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
• Asking a question isn't necessarily dangerous, but acting on the answer could be. Anybody can edit Wikipedia, so there's no telling what sort of an answer you might get. Even if by some miracle you got an answer from a qualified medical professional, you may have asked the wrong question. That's why physicians need to examine patients directly. A patient who has no medical training might pose a question in a misleading way. As an extreme example, someone might ask what birth control pills to take, without mentioning that he is male. The responder might assume only a woman would ask such a question, and never think to check that assumption. This problem would be less likely to arise if a physician can examine the patient. --Teratornis (talk) 03:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

What's the tag for a broken link?

Resolved

A web site that was being used as a source is either down or defunct. What's the tag to indicate a broken link? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 18:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

{{dead link}}. Algebraist 18:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Jeez...why couldn't I remember that? Thanks! A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 18:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Policy on People Articles

Hi. Is there a policy that says who can have an article on them selves (not user page). Eg. Can an ordanery person have an article in the main namespace about them? --Lcawte (talk) 18:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, there is a policy: Wikipedia:Notability (people). Algebraist 19:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

If you don't qualify for an article on WP, there are other options such as Wikipopuli and Wikibios.  – ukexpat (talk) 19:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (people) is a notability guideline, not a policy. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 18:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Internet Explorer 8

The above buttons {cite, bold, signature, etc) does not seem to be working in my version of IE8. Please help, Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 21:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

They work fine for me in Firefox, Chrome and IE 8.0. Is there any chance you disabled javascript? The buttons require it to be enabled. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 21:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The buttons work when I log out. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 21:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

You have a lot of entries in User:Tyw7/monobook.js. Try removing them and bypass your cache. If that fixes the problem, then add them back a bit at a time until it breaks ago. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 22:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Which section is causing the problem? --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 22:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Even clearing the page does not work. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 22:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a yellow error on page error on the botton left of the bar. This is what it says: Webpage error details

User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729) Timestamp: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:14:34 UTC

Message: Expected identifier, string or number Line: 4 Char: 1 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-Friendly.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript?227

Message: Object doesn't support this property or method Line: 1697 Char: 2 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:AzaToth/morebits.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript

Message: 'Namespace' is undefined Line: 30 Char: 1 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:AzaToth/twinkleimagetraverse.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript

Message: Expected identifier, string or number Line: 60 Char: 2 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:AzaToth/twinklebatchundelete.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript

Message: Object doesn't support this property or method Line: 598 Char: 3 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:AzaToth/twinklefluff.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript

Message: Unexpected call to method or property access. Line: 83 Char: 3 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/edit.js?227

--Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 22:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hm. It looks like your JavaScript is desperately in need of fixing. Are the edit toolbar buttons appearing at all, or are they simply unclickable? I'm worried that there might be some underlying problem, and per the above, I haven't a clue why your browser is unable to parse something as simply as MediaWiki's edit.js. Might I suggest sticking with another browser? That should fix the problem, at least temporarily. The Earwig (Talk | Contribs) 00:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, may I ask that you tone down your signature a tad? It appears very large on screen and takes up at least three lines in the edit window. Thanks! TNXMan 02:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, they appear, but is unclickable. However, when I logout, I can use those buttons. I have blanked the my javascript js but that doesn't work. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 03:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Where do I ask questions about wikiedia, ut not aout using wikipedia?

Where do I ask questions about wikiedia, ut not aout using wikipedia? For example, I want to ask gently technical questions about "how many Megaytes (or mebigibyte) Wikipedia:RfA was in 2008, and how many has it been so far in 2009?", and similar questions. These arent about using WP, and they don't seem to be (or maybe I'm wrong) suitable for reference desk. Thanks. 82.33.48.96 (talk) 21:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

If you have questions about specific areas of Wikipedia, it's usually best to ask them on that page's talk page. For example, questions about RfA should be asked at the RFA talk page. If you don't get an answer (some pages are less frequented than others), just ask here and we can point you in the right direction. TNXMan 21:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

NO MARKGORMLEY?!

Alright. I'm pissed off okay?

I have been listening to this, God, this ... Amazing man's music. His name, is Mark Gormley,

Today, I was looking around and saw, HE HAS NO WIKI PAGE.

Fix it, NOW.

Love from, Anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.211.75 (talk) 22:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

We have had such an article in the past, and it has been deleted (on five separate occasions, by four different admins) for failing to explain what makes Mark Gormley important enough to appear in an encyclopedia. If you think he deserves an article, write one yourself, but make sure you show why he satisfies our notablity guidelines. Algebraist 22:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

You can request articles to be created here. ZooFari 22:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

June 23

Put de: Nat Wolff on the article please.

Hello. There´s an article about Nat Wolff in the de: WP. Please put that [de:Nat Wolff] on the article, because it´s semi-protectet. Thanks. --Nemash (talk) 23:25, 3 June 2009 (UTC) This quote is a copy of my shout on the talkpage in Nat Wolff. There was nobody who contributed it. This should be the right help desk. I'm not sure. Bye --Nemash (talk) 01:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. You could've just made a few more edits and done it yourself, you know. Algebraist 01:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I keep all my knowledge for the german WP projekt :). But, that's a point. I'll try to catch up with my edits here. I've just added some articels to my watchlist. --Nemash (talk) 01:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Accidental Non-Capitalization

So, I recently created an article for Frenchtown High School, but the title is "Frenchtown high school," which looks extremely sophomoric. How do I change the title to the proper one? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasse (talk • contribs) 01:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

See Help:Moving a page. Algebraist 01:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Just wondering

Can you make an article about a book without the cover? Rory (reply on my page!) (talk) 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure - there is no rule that a page about a book must contain an image; For example 3001: The Final Odyssey has one, while Lilith's Brood does not. The list of books i clicked trough does not have a book cover image for every article. Just make sure the article meets the notability, reliable sources and neutral point of view guidelines. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 05:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

If you're referring to the books on Wikipedia, your question may be answered at Help:Books. TNXMan 11:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

talkback to another wiki's talk page (Commons to be specific)

Is there a way to get {{talkback}} to point a user to their talk page on another wiki such as Commons. I want to direct a user to their talk page on Commons. I recall that there is a way to do it with {{talkback}} but I can't remember the syntax. --Captain-tucker (talk) 02:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

This can't be done with the talkback template AFAIK. But why don't you just leave a simple message? The linking is easy; just commons:User talk:Example. Chamal ^talk 11:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes I will do that, I could have sworn that I once saw a talkback on a wikipedia talk page that directed the user to a commons talk page and was just curious if it could be done. Thanks--Captain-tucker (talk) 11:52, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

An ugly brute-force method would be to substitute the template and then edit the resulting wikitext to make the commons interwiki link work. However, the {{talkback}} documentation says not to substitute the template, with no explanation of why, so I guess you shouldn't do that. You could always use a {{Notice}} template and stick in your own message, if you want something that looks fancy. For example:

--Teratornis (talk) 02:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

creating a book

I have read the how to save your book instructions and I still dont get it. I click on show my book and when I'm looking at the page that has my book I see there is no option or tab to click on to save it. I really want to create a book. What am I doing wrong?Jbrantwo (talk) 03:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not aware of any "save your book instructions" on Wikipedia. What instructions are you talking about? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia: it contains pages but no books. —teb728 t c 07:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I assume it is about this page Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 08:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

See Help:Books Prodego ^talk 08:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

sending sms

since i am now registered, how do i send sms --User:Jimojok

Wikipedia is not an SMS service. Its an encyclopaedia. --SpaceFlight89 (talk) 07:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Right. See Wikipedia:Talk page and Wikipedia:E-mailing users for ways to contact other Wikipedia users. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Tables

How do I set a fixed column width and control text alignment within a table? (left, centre, right alignment, but also top, centre, bottom alignment.) V85 (talk) 10:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

See Help:Table#Setting your column widths and other parts of Help:Table. I don't know a method to set alignment of a column in one place. You may have to do it for each cell in the column. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:24, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Allocation of articles to namespaces fails

Hello @ all,

some weeks ago, I defined some customized namespaces and everything worked fine. But now I have a problem: Let's say one namespace I recently defined is called "NewNamespace". Now I want to create a new article within this namespace, let's say "NewNamespace:HelloWorld". Then what happens is, that the new article is stored in the (Main) namespace with title "NewNamespace:HelloWorld", but not in the "NewNamespace". The strange thing about it is, that the articles which are already in the "NewNamespace" still work fine, so I don't think that it's a problem with the namespace definition. Can anyone help me? Does anyone have an explanation for this?

PS: I checked about a hundred times that I don't have any typing errors within the article's name, so this easiest explanation drops out as well.

62.157.208.213 (talk) 10:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Your question seems to be related to the mediawiki software, which is also used to run wikipedia. In case this is true i would advice either asking this question at the mediawiki website or at the reference desk. The wikipedia help desk is only used for questions about using wikipedia. Thank you. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 11:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Need help with Archival of this talk page

Resolved

 – MiszaBot is now archiving.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 12:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

A while back, one of the editors set-up MiszaBot to archive Talk:List of downloadable songs for the Rock Band series. This worked once, but since then we've noticed that talk threads are not being archived anymore. I've since gone in an manually archived some of the content. I am not familiar with how MiszaBot works, but I'm guessing some of it is because the Talk page frequently gets unsigned edits or edits put in odd places (like the "lead" or "header") which could be throwing off the archival. Can somebody with more knowledge of this bot take a look and provide some advice on how to correct the auto-archival? Thanks! -- TRTX ^{T / C} 14:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I have reverted this edit which was made 3 days after the latest MiszaBot archiving. Maybe this fixes it. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I always end up having to do some hand-archiving of my talk page, for just those reasons. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Alberta Ridings infoboxes

It seems that all the maps in the infoboxes of Alberta ridings are shifted to the left. An example is the Calgary East article... Does anyone know what is making them all do that? Is it maybe the template being used in these boxes? It is Template:Calgary federal electoral districts map... Thank you! TastyCakes (talk) 15:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

It's right-aligned here. The alignment of infoboxes is set by site-wide CSS; perhaps your browser isn't loading it properly? Have you tried bypassing your cache? Algebraist 15:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Note that he's referring to the maps, not the infoboxes themselves. The map is also left-aligned within the infobox for me. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks like a common mistake in the template. It appears align:center; should center the image, but this does not work in a block element like <div>...</div>. Remove it and change the margin to margin:auto;. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm do you mean in the Template:Infobox Canada electoral district template? TastyCakes (talk) 15:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Whoops— that would be helpful. Calgary East uses {{Infobox Canada electoral district}} where the imagemap parameter uses {{Calgary federal electoral districts map}} which is where the problem lies. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

So you mean you can't use the locator map within the electoral district template? TastyCakes (talk) 15:35, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure. You would be better to ask on the template talk. I have started a discussion at Template talk:Calgary federal electoral districts map#Centered?; take a look at the testcases and see if that is what you are looking for. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 00:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm having trouble finding a wiki.answers.com referenced file

I have a print-out of wiki.answers.com/Q/What are Fiction genres of 6/15/2009. I'd like to find out more about "What are Fiction genres?" YOur page 2 of 3 lists "Search" as "Answers.com>Wiki Anseres>Categories>Literature and Language>Literary Terms>What are Fiction genres?" I can go as far as "Wiki Answers/..../Books and Literature/" but when I add "Literary Terms" and re-send, I'm told there is no such page or file. What should I do next?

---

(sorry, but I can't insert your requested "termination" characters!)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.9.96 (talk • contribs)

This is Wikipedia - not WikiAnswers.com. But we're helpful folks, so here you go. Best, Zain Ebrahim (talk) 16:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Yochanan Sofer

Resolved

Hello, I cannot figure out how to get the image to appear in the infobox. I tried uploading the image to Wikimedia Commons using CommonsHelperTool, but it said there was no such image on en.wikipedia. What do I do now? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 17:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Done Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 18:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, how'd you do that? The other infoboxes that I checked didn't have that "300px" attached to the image line. Did you tweak something else about the image? Yoninah (talk) 20:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

300px was only added to give a reasonable size. The thing that made the image appear was the double brackets around the file name in [4]. Some template parameters require brackets around file names and some don't. Look at the template documentation, or maybe at the template source, or experiment to find out. In this case the documentation at Template:Infobox Rebbe shows the brackets. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Talk page template for WP:NOTSOAPBOX

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 00:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there a template we can stick on article talk pages to remind editors about WP:NOTSOAPBOX? It's in response to this, if anyone wants some context.

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Im not aware of such a template, so i just made you one. It might need some working tweaks, but its a start at least. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 18:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

{{Notaforum}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you both - I could have sworn I'd seen one before, but these two solutions are excellent. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 00:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Today Genre

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 19:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Here is a list of today songs I found to be similar and beautiful at the same time:

• Glenn Morrison - Contact (Original Mix) [5]
• Glenn Morrison - No Sudden Moves [6]
• Deadmau5 - Not Exactly (Inpetto Remix) [7]
• Hybrid - Finished Symphony (Deadmau5 Remix) [8]
• Fragma - Tocas Miracle 2008 (Inpetto 2008 Mix) [9]
• Whigfield feat. KLM Music - Saturday Night (Secret Sunday Remix)

My wonder is: it's a today genre/subgenre, but what subgenre is? I don't think that calling it a Minimalist EDM would be enough due to the fact that all songs has the same particular sound timbres. A much more to-all-people-friendly song, in a sweeter style, a disco style composition, the first I've heard and reminiscent to all pieces from this list is Supermode - Tell Me Why (Raul Rincon Remix) (even Supermode - Tell Me Why). The genre/subgenre must be formed from 2007 to 2009. Hope someone knows or finds the answer. Thank you. --TudorTulok (talk) 18:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll do that. --TudorTulok (talk) 18:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Missing space in Glycosidic bond

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 21:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

After the link to glucoronic acid, the space between acid and via doesn't seem to be showing up...not sure why.

Get rid of the code to bring up a wikitable just under the heading. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 19:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

 Done, seems to be OK now. – ukexpat (talk) 19:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

trouble logging in

I first tried creating an account using several passwords. Nothing was accepted, so I asked for wikipedia to set up a password. The first one didn't work, so I asked for a second password & it doesn't work. I tried all the correct capital & non-capital letters. Now neither the user account nor the password is accepted. I'm doing something wrong.

What is the user name? By "I asked for wikipedia to set up a password", do you mean you clicked "E-mail new password" at the login screen? By "didn't work", do you mean you didn't receive a password or that the password was rejected when you entered it? You can also try Wikipedia:Request an account. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Wrongfully Deleted Entry

We at Huthwaite corrected misinformation on our IP "SPIN Selling Model" and gave reference to our published book. Shortly thereafter this page was completely deleted, and it listed "unambiguous copyright infringement" as the reason why. We don't understand this because we used referenced the source which is our book that our company published and owns the rights to. Is it possible to renew or recreate the page without worrying about this issue in the future?

Felicity Ro (talk) 20:57, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

See WP:IOWN for the process to release copyright material for use on Wikipedia. Also, please read WP:NOSHARE - Wikipedia accounts not supposed to be shared by more than one user. Also wouldn't hurt to read WP:SPAM.  – ukexpat (talk) 21:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Just to be clear: If you own the copyright to a work, then you can licence the work in any way you see fit. To incorporate the work into Wikipedia, you must license the work (specifically, the portion of the work you put into Wikipedia) under a specific licence, namely the GFDL (and now also the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License 3.0.) Once you have done this, anyone in the whole wide world can then use this material, modified or unmodified, in any way they see fit, subject to the licnese, and you have absolutely no control of the material. So, yes, you can prove to us that you ar the copyright holder, and yes, you can then place teh material in Wikipedia, but you cannot later object if someone else ever uses the material. This will be true even if the material is subsequently deleted from Wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 23:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Signature problems

I'm working on a new signature:

[[User:a little insignificant|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:CornflowerBlue"> just a little</span>]] [[User talk:a little insignificant|<font color="#FFDB59" span style="font-variant:small-caps">insignificant</span>]]

Which translates to:

just a little insignificant

The only change I'm making to my signature is the color. The new one appears to work fine in my sandbox, but when I attempted to change it in my preferences, I got a big fat "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags" message. What am I doing wrong? just a little insignificant 21:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

You have a tag that can't decide if it's a <font> or a <span>, leading to nonsensical html. Try [[User:a little insignificant|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:CornflowerBlue"> just a little</span>]] [[User talk:a little insignificant|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:#FFDB59">insignificant</span>]]. Algebraist 21:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You need:

[[User:a little insignificant|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:CornflowerBlue"> just a little</span>]] [[User talk:a little insignificant|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#FFDB59;">insignificant</span>]]

Or:

[[User:a little insignificant|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:CornflowerBlue"> just a little</span>]] [[User talk:a little insignificant|<font color="#FFDB59" span style="font-variant:small-caps">insignificant</span></font>]]

Both should work, the first is shorter though. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Great, it works. Thank you both so much, and Algebraist, I'll keep that in mind for next time. Thanks- just a little insignificant 21:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it's my eyes, but the text in both those colours, particularly the yellow, is a little hard to read... – ukexpat (talk) 21:29, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

If it's your eyes, it's mine also. Algebraist 21:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The Rule of tincture may be centuries old, but it still has sage advice to lend when picking out which colors to use for a Wikipedia signature (specifically, it's best not to put yellow letters on a white background). AlexiusHoratius 21:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Me too, I've changed it. Sorry. just a little insignificant 22:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, much better. – ukexpat (talk) 00:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, For colors that have such long names, try using hex triplets, it cuts down on characters, see List of colors. For instance, Cornflower blue is #6495ED, you save 7 characters there, Just a hint! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

city

Which is bigger houston or chicago?

There's an encyclopaedia just around the corner...see Houston and Chicago. It's probably Chicago. Xenon54 (talk) 22:52, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, List of United States cities by population. This sort of question is better addressed to one of the reference desks, in this case probably Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous. TastyCakes (talk) 23:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean by "bigger"? Bigger in terms of population, area, economic output, association with a particular cultural activity? --Teratornis (talk) 02:31, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Refinancing

when you refinance your home-do you have to reapply for the homestead credit76.214.130.252 (talk) 23:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. But note that we cannot give legal advice. – ukexpat (talk) 00:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Also specify where the home is. Different countries have different laws. --Teratornis (talk) 02:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

And possibly states as well, see for example Homestead exemption in Florida. --Teratornis (talk) 02:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

June 24

Assitant Manager

i want to now how to be a good assistant maneger —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.246.148.209 (talk) 24 June 2009

This page is only for help on using Wikipedia. I'm afraid we can't answer questions like this. Besides, this is something that will require quite a bit of learning and not something that can be explained by a short answer. Chamal ^talk 04:08, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

final words in a news column

My Aunt Katie has died and I want to write the final Ore City news column for our small county newspaper in her name, ending with the words which indicate that this is the last column. I know there is such a phrase, but I cannot remember it. She did this column for more than fifty years, reporting comings and goings in our small town. I would like to end her column with these words, but I do not know them, although I know I have seen them in the past. Can you help? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.225.168.55 (talk) 24 June 2009 (UTC)

The best place to ask this is the language reference desk. I suggest you try there. Chamal ^talk 04:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Auto formatting of dates

Is the pissing match over the linking of dates for autoformatting over? Who won? WP:MOSNUM doesn't say that the battle is still raging but then it didn't a few months ago either when I de-linked some dates and subsequently got thrown into an arbitration case. So is MOSNUM right? Is linking for the sake of autoformatting again deprecated? Dismas|^(talk) 04:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

• You'll get different answers depending on who you answer. Personally, I don't understand why you can't autoformat without any additional code. It would be just a personal preference setting that doesn't affect anyone else. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

question?

how and where i can ask a question about a topic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanak3 (talk • contribs) 24 June 2009

If the question is about how to edit Wikipedia, you're already in the right place. If you're looking for a general sort of factual question, then the Reference Desk is the place for you. Dismas|^(talk) 06:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

can't open wikipedia

New computer behaviour...when I try to open a wikipedia entry in IE 8 I get an error message saying that windows does not recognize this MIME type.

HOw do I fix this? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.83.152 (talk) 24 June 2009

this at the msdn blog may be of some help. The items listed there suggest:

1. Register for an account
2. Remove Google desktop
3. Clear the cache

If those items fail to resolve the problem, you may find some more knowledgeable assistance over at the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing section if that fails. Best of luck. — Ched :  ?  07:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox

How can I create an infobox? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

For what article? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 09:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

No, I mean an infobox template ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Use {{infobox}} as a meta-template— many infoboxes are based on it. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 09:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Let me give it a shot! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 10:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Have you checked Category:Infobox templates to make sure that one fitting your situation does not already exist? – ukexpat (talk) 13:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Speed?

Is it just me, or has Wikipedia been slower the past few days? I'll be glad to know it's not just me. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I haven't noticed a difference, what web browser do you use? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 10:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Internet Explorer. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

One strange and possibly related thing I noticed was that when I pressed "Yes" on "Restore all default settings" in "My preferences", the speed seemed to pick up, although it's since slowed down a little again. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I despise IE, you have to get Mozilla Firefox it's free and very up to date. you can download it here from the official website. Plus, most internet providers aren't really compatible with IE ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 10:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I've been having the same problem under Firefox, but I thought it was something on my end. Try disabling addons, or if you use a skin other than Monobook, switch and see if that helps. You might also want to notify those at WP:VPT and see if they can offer any more assistance. Xenon54 (talk) 12:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Image reversal

Not long ago, I downloaded an image, reversed it, and then uploaded it to Wikipedia Commons. I did this because the person in the image was facing right, and the image was on the right of the page. It's almost always better to have the person in an image facing into the page rather than out from the page. And this was a situation in which the image was in the lead and had to be on the right. I have searched the FAQ and other Help pages, and it appears that the MediaWiki software does not allow a simple reversal of an image by placing some kind of reversal command or code within an image file link on an article page. I'm wondering if I've just overlooked it, or does a new reversed image have to be uploaded each time a "perspective" problem is found?  ^{.`</sup>^) Paine Ellsworth<sup>diss`cuss} (^^`.  10:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm am not an expert, but that may be violating copyrights depending on the photo, I never really notice where the photo is pointing, Freddy Krueger's is come to think of it. I never would go through that much effort ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 10:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I can see you've never uploaded an image before, do you need help? If so I'd be more than happy to give you a walkthrough ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 10:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Copyright's not the problem. A reversed image holds the same copyright as the original unreversed image. What I'm looking for is a command or code that can be simply added to the {{File:(image name.jpg)|thumb|right . . .}} on any given article page that will reverse the image, instead of having to download, reverse, upload each time an image needs reversed.  ^{.`</sup>^) Paine Ellsworth<sup>diss`cuss} (^^`.  11:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

This can't be done AFAIK. You'll just have to upload the image again as you did. Alternatively you can change the alignment of the image (left or right) so that the subject faces the text. WP:IMAGES gives pretty much everything about images, if you need it. Chamal ^talk 11:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

It's called Wikimedia Commons and not Wikipedia Commons. This must be about File:Benjamin Franklin by Joseph Siffred Duplessis.jpg and the reverted File:Benjamin Franklin by Joseph Siffred Duplessis left.jpg. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Images which speaks against image reversal for layout reasons. I also dislike this kind of image manipulation and think it's practically falsification. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I would remove the 'practically' there. Algebraist 12:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, just now I've seen the image reverted. I reversed it in good faith, and I hope you believe that there was never any desire to promote falsification. The deed was entirely for the benefit of the reader. An outward perspective, as it is now, tends to lead the reader's eyes away from the page, whereas an inward perspective leads the reader's eyes into the page. I promise you that this was my only objective!  ^{.`</sup>^) Paine Ellsworth<sup>diss`cuss} (^^`.  14:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Check link

Resolved

 – Kateshortforbob 11:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm doing a bit of preliminary tidying of a new article, A J Dalton, which contains an external link to here. Unfortunately it's blocked by my corporate firewall :-( - would anyone be able to check whether this is the author's website or something else, as I don't want to save the article with a mislabelled link, and I won't have access to a free computer for some time. Thanks --Kateshortforbob 11:25, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

It seems to be a blog, which appears to be owned by "Adam Dalton" (At least that is the user posting article's) Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 11:28, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow - thanks for the quick reply! So possibly safe to list as an external link for the author, then? From what little I can see on the Google excerpt, it looks like the WP article is quoting directly from another page on that blog, which probably won't do, though. (the firewall is your friend, the firewall is your friend) Thanks again --Kateshortforbob 11:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I would say it is pretty safe to list the blog as such - it has every indication sign of a personal blog. As for the literal quoting, i cannot seem to find it in that page. I even tried finding single words that might be copied, but it seems to be a legit text :) Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 11:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Ha, I probably shouldn't rely on cached Google excerpts for these things! It may be a moot point, however, as the sentence has now been removed and the page prodded... --Kateshortforbob 11:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Why was this article not speedily deleted? I cannot see any shred of importance or significance. In any event, clearly fails WP:BIO. – ukexpat (talk) 14:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Typhoon affecting Vietnam between 8-1-1971 thru 12-26-1971

PTSD (post tramatic syndrom disorder)

The cities of Hue and Fubi Vietnam

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside involvement on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where the asking of knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.. – ukexpat (talk) 13:51, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

(e/c)Hi - I'm not sure whether you have a Wikipedia-related question or not. Perhaps you could rephrase? Our article on the 1971 Pacific typhoon season may be of some use, and there are a number of candidates whose duration coincides with the period you mention, although not all of them may have affected Vietnam. Our article on Huế doesn't mention a typhoon, and I haven't yet been able to find an article on a city called "Fubi" (Vietnamese apparently does not use the letter 'F'). You may have more success with your question(s) at one of the Reference Desks, where people answer general knowledge questions. Make sure to give as much detail as you can when asking there. --Kateshortforbob 14:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Non-English Content

Sorry if this isn't the correct place to ask, but I can't find any information. How should non-English language pages in en.wiki be treated? I would add a speedy deletion tag but it's not in the criteria. Any help is appreciated, the article is Gastropunkt. ReformatMe (talk) 14:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Tag it as "needs translation", which has been done. (It's also been tagged for speedy, but because the group is not notable.) Xenon54 (talk) 14:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Place {{NotEnglish}} on the page that needs translation, and follow the instructions on the template once you saved it. If the article is present on another language wikipedia (Read: it has been literally copied over) you should tag it as a DB-A2. Keep in mind that some users are attempting to translate article's in place, so it might be a good idea to wait for some time to see if the user actively translates it. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 14:37, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

musical lirics

an excentric is giving away prizes to his vault for anyone who knows what artist did the song with 2 lines of the following lyrics,WELL NOW IT'S TOO LATE FOR TALKING,WE CAN TALK LATER ON.LET THE SAXOPHONE PLAY US UNTIL THE CHORUS OF DAWN.