Talk:Midsomer Murders

Where was it filmed?

Anyone know exactly which villages have been used as locations? Graham 11:49, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Midsomer Murders Magazine + DVD Collection

The website for the official Midsomer Murders DVD Collection & Magazine is http://www.midsomermurdersdvd.com

--J-- 05:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Transmitted

is that really the correct word for expressing the fact it was shown on television? sure it means that but it somehow doesn't really feel right in my opion. perhaps broadcasted would be better, but that isn't that good either. Boneyard 11:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I could be wrong here but I'm almost certain that in British English, transmitted is the correct term. In American English the word is broadcast (not broadcasted). Binabik80 00:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Broken links to episodes

Isn't it better if the links to the episode guide on Geocities are removed and replaced by a separate article on Wikipedia? The "Midsomer Murders site" seems to exceed its bandwidth constantly, so the links are basically broken. --Strangnet 17:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I have rerouted the first sesons links to www.tv.com rest will follow if accepted

zeven90 8:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Dates

about the air dates the 9th season was show a few weeks earlier in Sweden the in the UK. might want to change the dates, and add the last episode of the season that i saw yesterday on SVT(Swedish TV).

zeven90 22:10, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Number of countries sold to

There was no source for the quote 'the series has been sold to 222 countries and territories across the world'. Given that there are only 194 countries in the world, and around 67 territories according to http://www.infoplease.com/countries.html, an exact claim of 222 is possible, but seems suspect. I will change the main article to remove that figure pending identification of a source.

Comedy drama

I think to describe Midsomer Murders as a comedy is wrong. Yes, it has comedic moments, but they merely reflect real life. Most soaps, even EastEnders, have humour, Agatha Christie's Poirot has humour, especially in the early episodes. Even Upstairs, Downstairs has comedic moments, but to describe any of these as "comedy-drama/comedy-soap" would be incorrect. A "comedy" can't be something which merely shows the humour of real life. --UpDown 09:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

• I quite agree - Midsomer Murders is not a comedy. I'm a huge fan by the way - got all the DVDs....  :) Darth Doctrinus 08:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio?

Is this page a copyright violation or did www.midsomermurders.net take their content word for word from Wikipedia ? (Comment added by IP 81.2.110.250)

Good question. I have moved this comment and given it a title so it doesn't get overlooked. Telsa (talk) 18:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

The IP person will have to be specific, what parts of this article?--UpDown 18:03, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I have had a look now, and wow. The "about" page and this article are basically the same, only sections moved about.

• WP lead (before the TOC), with the exception of two adjectives, a sentence split, and "various crimes that afflict midsomer" is their first paragraph.

• Midsomer Murders#Characters paragraph contents are their Main Characters contents. The characters are in a different order.

• Midsomer Murders#Style is their Midsomer Murders Style word for word, only Wikipedia has a proper cedilla on façade. WP has a "For example" sentence at the end. The other site does not.

• The Midsomer Murders#Production section is the second half of their introduction.

Now what? Telsa (talk) 18:41, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh that is copied from us, thats quite clear. Having watched this page for some time I can tell that. --UpDown 19:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Comedy drama - again

Yet another IP address is claiming this is a comedy, even "darkly comic". The person clearly has no idea what a comedy is, or what a dark comedy is. As I say above many shows have comedy moments, they reflect real life, but they are no written as comedies alone. Saturday's episode of Doctor Who had many comedy moments, but it is not a "comedy sci-fi". Another claim is that it is not a "plausible representation of england" - correct, its fiction, and fiction doesn't have to be comedy. The IP address also claims "exaggerated caricatures" of England - no not really. Not all murder dramas are dark, and totally serious, many have more comedy/cheerful moments. Please do not make further changes until discussion.--UpDown (talk) 21:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

The IP address also claims "exaggerated caricatures" of England - no not really. - You're joking. Quit portraying my country as something it isn't. --84.67.38.83 (talk) 21:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Stop taking this personally. I am also from England. It is fiction, please try and remember that.--UpDown (talk) 07:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

First: I don't believe in comedy-drama. Either it is drama with some comedy elements or it is comedy with some drama elements. Otherwise every tv-show could catagorized as comedy-drama.

Anyway, in this case it is drama. It's a murder investigation! --Novesia (talk) 22:46, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

It is a darkly comic drama, not like Dalziel & Pascoe or Inspector Morse for example, although Morse is a rather romanticised view of England. There are not the over-the-top eccentric characterisations in these shows. --84.67.38.83 (talk) 23:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Well comedy-drama does exist, Honest is a good, recent example. I am also very worried that you make the changes while there is an ongoing discussion, the status quo (ie how the page was originally) should be kept unless a concensus is researched at discussion. Further changes will be vandalism and I will report them as such. Darkly comic may describe Murder Most Horrid, but not Midsomer Murders - and I do wonder whether you have actually watched it if you really believe it to be darkly comic.--UpDown (talk) 07:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, it is very difficult to compromise with someone who clearly has no sense of irony. I mainly watch Midsomer Murders for the great character actors chewing up the scenery. Murder Most Horrid stars Dawn French and sets out to be a laugh-out-loud comedy, not a comic drama. BTW, a POV dispute does not constitute vandalism. --81.79.214.135 (talk) 15:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I never said Murder Most Horrid was a comic drama, I said it was darkly comic, another phrase you like to use. And this is not a POV dispute, its a factual dispute.--UpDown (talk) 07:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Your behaviour is now disruptive, and I think a ban will soon come if you continue. While there is an ongoing discussion, you should not be changing relevant bit in the article, it should be left how it was in the first place. I have asked you this, and you ignore this. You need to wait for an agreement here first. You linked to dark comedy - I quote from there; a dark comedy is where "events that are usually treated seriously (death, mass murder, suicide, domestic violence, disease, insanity, fear, drug abuse, rape, war, terrorism, etc.) are treated in a humorous or satirical manner". If you honestly believe this describes Midsomer Murders, then you are very misguided (Murder Most Horrid is perfectly described by that). It clearly doesn't. Any further edits will be treated as vandalism, and reverted. I will also get in an admin if necessary.--UpDown (talk) 07:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

This a POV dispute, because you are incapable of understanding irony. You clearly have an under-developed sense of humour and inhabit a different reality from the rest of us. --84.68.109.77 (talk) 12:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Look at ITV. They categorise it as drama. They should know what the show is about. --Novesia (talk) 14:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

This is your first warning for changing a page during a discussion. Please don't. Novesia makes a good point. Please find valid, reliable references for it being a comedy-drama and/or darkly comic. --UpDown (talk) 16:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I never said it wasn't a drama. Comic drama Doc Martin is also listed in the drama category on ITV's website. --84.68.176.183 (talk) 17:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Once again please do not change a page while a discussion is ongoing. That is commmon Wikipedia practise, and you are doing yourself and your argument no favours by totally ignoring this. As I said find me reliable references that say it is "darkly comic", find me reliable references that say it is a "comedy drama". As it stands, we can reference it is a drama, but not a comedy drama. As Wikipedia needs reference, this matters greatly. And as I said above find me references that would agree that Midsomer Murders is a dark comedy as fits this discription."events that are usually treated seriously (death, mass murder, suicide, domestic violence, disease, insanity, fear, drug abuse, rape, war, terrorism, etc.) are treated in a humorous or satirical manner". --UpDown (talk) 07:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I have now added a reliable reference for the phrase "detective drama".--UpDown (talk) 07:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Recurring Characters

I'm not sure this needs adding to the article (yet), but it's something to keep an eye on. There's a new recurring character, WPC Gail Stephens (played by Kirsty Dillon), who first appeared in s10e05 'Death and Dust' and has appeared in every episode from s10e08 'They Seek Him Here' onwards, including every episode of series 11, and is listed in the cast list for the first story of s12 (the dogleg murders), making 9 appearances at least. She tends to only have a few lines in each story (comparable to Dr Bullard), but they seem to be leading towards a romance between her and DS Jones. If she continues to appear, it may need adding to the regular characters (or perhaps more suitably, it would fit in a "recurring character" section along with Cully's boyfriend/husband). Like I say, i'm just putting this out there to see what people think. Paul 1978 (talk) 02:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I must admit, I have seen every episode and never noticed her! But if as you say she has appeared in at least nine episodes then I think she already deserves a mention as a recurring, if minor, character. --UpDown (talk) 07:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, to be fair, she's only been in 3 episodes that have aired in the UK on ITV, but i've seen the first 4 from series 11 which have aired in Europe (and i think are on beginning July on ITV), which she's also in. I'd leave it until those have aired and then see if you think it should be added.Paul 1978 (talk) 21:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm thinking of creating a List of Characters in Midsomer Murders article, my only major concern is whether there would be enough recurring characters to justify this. Does anyone have any thoughts?Lord Cornwallis (talk) 02:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

If an article were created it should be at List of Midsomer Murders characters, following other character pages. I think possibly there are enough characters; Barnaby, Joyce, Cully, Troy, Scott, Jones, Bullard. I think also there are a few other recurring ones, like Cully's husband and I think the guy who took over from Bullard for a series or so.--UpDown (talk) 06:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Cully leaving

I've added in a reference to Cully leaving after s11e01 "Blood Wedding" with a link to an article about it, which has an interview with the actress. However i've just checked and she also appears in s11e04 "The Magicians Nephew". I don't know if that was filmed before Blood Wedding, or if the article is wrong and she leaves after this series (she doesn't appear in any of the other episodes of s11). I'm not sure how to word this within the article though, any thoughts? Paul 1978 (talk) 11:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

That is odd! I also read in another magazine that last night's was her last episode. I would personally leave the article how it is for the time being, then change if necessary later. After all, we have a ref that says "Blood Wedding" was her last.--UpDown (talk) 17:18, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnaby & Jones

The third assistant to Barnaby is sergeant Jones. Is this a deliberate pun towards Barnaby Jones? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.230.148.234 (talk) 20:01, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I very much doubt it.--UpDown (talk) 07:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

midsommmer murders

we all no that midsommer is'nt a real place name but where is the villages and wat are there real name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.242.106 (talk) 07:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Cully

Does anyone have the slightest idea what this might be short for? I don't! 91.105.33.248 (talk) 23:02, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Cully was named so because she was conceived in the same named village where Tom and Joyce honeymooned. StevieNic (talk) 11:40, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

ITV or ITV1

There is an argument going on between myself, and another member of Wikipedia. I say this programme and many others airs on a channel called ITV - he/she says it's ITV1. The fact is, there is no such channel called ITV1. ITV1 is a brand name, used for ITV in England, Wales, Southern Scotland, Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. The brand name for the channel is Central and the North of Scotland is STV, and in Northern Ireland, it's UTV. All of these brands together, ITV1, STV and UTV are part of the ITV Network, which is usually just refered to as ITV. Using the ITV1 brand in these articles is selfish to those in most of Scotland and Northern Ireland, who don't see or hear the ITV1 name. What are your thoughts on this matter?
GMc^talk 14:55, 09 January 2009 (UTC)

‘ITV’ is a complicated term, now that many of the ITV franchises are owned by a corporation which calls itself ITV, but I tend to agree with your lines of demarcation. David Arthur (talk) 23:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I think a wider discussion is now being held at the talk of Talk:Agatha Christie's Poirot, so better to centralise there I think.--UpDown (talk) 13:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone else think?

there shoul be a midsomer wiki? Theres quite a lot of materialto be used (Aurumpotestasest (talk) 15:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC))

Sure, why not. We could always use new wikis, and the show has been running for quite some time. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 22:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)