Talk:False awakening

Has anyone read, Ursula Le Guin's, The Lathe Of Heaven? The False Awakening, seems to be what the main character George Orr is experiencing. He seems to have the capacity to do Lucid dreaming, only he does not have control, and he changes reality from dream to dream. It seems possible that he is in the state of false awakening and thinks that he is awake when he is not. The book was written in the 1970's and projects into the future (our now) What do you think about it?

Popular References

I enjoy the 'pop culture' part of interesting topics such as this. Does someone want to do some research and start a list of popular references to false awakenings? (songs, tv, film etc)

I can remember one Calvin and Hobbes strip right now ... he gets out of bed, dressed, eats breakfast and trudges out to the curb to go to school .. and then wakes up. cheater (talk) 23:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

This has been used in a number of films. I can only recall the start of Star Trek: First Contact I think it was had Picard waking from a dream, only to wake up again. phocks (talk) 04:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

In the first plotline of the comic book Sandman, the main character Dream (or Morpheus, etc. The King of Dreams.) punishes someone with eternal false awakening, essentialy. Krilia (talk) 23:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

experiences

i reguarly experience false awakenings in the mornings- they are VERY frustrating . more clincal /medical info/reasons would be welcome . t ali 22/2/06

I had a false awakening a week ago in which I woke, got out of bed, made breakfast for me and the dog and took clean dishes out of the dishwasger. I only realised I must be asleep when I saw that the dog's food bowl was simultaneously in the dishwasher and on the floor! Infuriating, since I then had to get up for real and do it all again... Would be interesting to know what causes these. Rissa 22:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

The mechanism for false awakenings, and dreams in general, is poorly understood. No one even knows why we dream, let alone the nuances like this. If false awakenings are a persistent, problematic issue for you, consult a physician who can work with you and sleep specialists to help manage the problem. Most dream or nightmare related disturbances are generally considered to be psychological in nature and so treatment often begins at this level. I do not believe a standard treatment has been created using drugs alone. Most pharmacological applications in this field seem to be psych meds, which often have dream-related side effects (and therefore valuable off-label uses). Sedatives can sometimes suppress dreams (or their memory at least) and so a general physician might work with you in terms of sleep-aid medications.

I once dreamed about awakening to a reality that had changed in a number of bleak ways because it was a new year. Is that a type 2 false awakening? I've had a lot of type 1 false awakenings, but for me there still rare. 71.116.113.135 00:30, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I had a dream like this once. I woke up in my room looked around and it was dusk outside and i went to bed at like 12 noon time and thought to myself oh i must be dreaming. went back to sleep in the dream and woke myself up in Real Life and said to my self. yes this is not a dream

Hi just curios about others experiences of false awakening in conjunction with tactial hallucination. One incident stand to min where I had 40+ False awkening during lucid dreaming. Each time I woke up I was aware I had had previous false awakening. I would subject myself to a physical stimulus, pinch myself, clap, scrath my chin etc. At each false awakening, I would add a new stimilus open a window, pet my cat etc. I would follow this up with my previous routine, ending in me sitting at my computer reading something, things blurred after that and I would experience false awakening after false awakening. Eventually I did wake up, but I prolly stayed in bed awake for an hour before I was fully aware I was awake. curious if anyone else has had a similar experience or has read litrature to that effect.

RESPONSE: As a Shaman, I have dreamed every level and dimension both on earth and off planet. From your description, I would say you are dream walking, fully out of body with your consciousn mind. I would suggest setting INTENTION to bring something back from the astral planes, which are unified fields of this 3rd dimension. Next time you leave your body in your dreams with the level of consiousness where you are at, open a window, leave a clue for yourself, first in your own house, so you clearly see it. Lock your front door and then when you dream walk or leave your body, unlock the door and leave it open. So when you wake up in this dream [the waking dream] you've built or are building to understand the difference for your 'conscious mind'. Remember the conscious mind is only for incarnated states and does not go with us across the veil or into the dimensions on planet, it is our higher or observer mind that leaves with us. Once you master this level, then one can enter the 'soul' level of travelling, which I cannot speak of until you've disclipined to know the difference of whether you are dreaming in your mind or mental body with absolute knowing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.149.224.51 (talk) 21:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Accuracy of this line

"Like a lucid dream, the dreamer can think very clearly during a false awakening. " What if a person normally can't think very clearly upon awakening? I mean, if a false awakening is governed by a person's subconscious sense of reality, wouldn't a person's false awakening stay true to reality and have the person thinking groggily, almost as limited as when still normally asleep?

A false awakning may last many long minutes, the morning rituals can take you all thwe way to work. so although you may usually feel a little disoriented in the mornings, this line IS accurate. --Procrastinating@^talk2me 09:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

How many times

Have you false awakened in a row? The most times I dreamed I woke up and then again and again was 2 or 3, I can't remember. Cuzandor 02:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I belive I got it till 4. the tihng that eventaully woke me up was the fear of shitting my self in bwewd, sinceI had the urge to. in real life, in the bathroom, I had nothing to output. Fucking Wierd..

once years ago i had the most confusing dream which was seriously nothing but waking up and falling asleep. never in the dream did i even get out of bed, i was just lying there the whole time trying to figure out if i was actually awake or not. i have no idea how many false awakenings i got in there but it was easily 10+ --dan 08:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

To talk abour how many time I will have to tell one of my dreams before telling the second dream. I was walkin into my bedroom and then I saw a Genie, and he asked. "what do you want??" I said: I this is a dream i want that this become reality. Then I wake up and the genie was there at my bedroom, some minutes later, I wake up again. (so I had here in this first dream 1 false awakening). Another day I was walking to my bedroom and I saw a genie, he asked "what do you want??" I said "If this is a dream i want that this becomes reality, and if later, i wake up in a dream I want that this becomes reality again". Then I wake up and the genie was there in my bedroom, 11 seconds later i wake up again and the genie was there, and then 7 seconds later i wake up again, and 1 second later again, and 2 seconds later again, and 1 second later again, and again and again........... I had false awaked about 50 times. Then i false awaked for the last time and the genie asked "what you want?" I said "I want that if this is a dream that its becomes reality, and if its a dream again that it becomes reality and i want that you do this until i go to reality". He said "that i can not do". And then i awaked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Exdeathbr (talk • contribs) 03:20, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe my record is 4. A record I hope to never break.Lordvolton (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

OBE

I dont no if i had and obe or a false awakening. Because in my dream i told myself to wakeup its just a dream and i woke up and i said no its not real but im awake and i ran out of my bed and thats the last thing i remembered. I dont no if it was an obe or a false awakening?

This article

This article caused me to have my first False Awakening, and it was an extremely disturbing experience for me. Yesturday I was browsing around and found it and read this paragraph on the page:

In some cases false awakenings can also be nightmares. For example, a dreamer may "awaken" to find a man with a knife standing over them, only to "awaken" again to find the man still there, and so on. In other cases, a dreamer may be aware that he has had a false awakening, then struggle to wake himself up for real, only to find himself in another false awakening. Such nightmares can be prolonged and extremely disrupting.

Myself, being a very paranoid person, read this - it scared me and I was thinking about it + afraid all night (you know the feeling, look around every corner, turn on every light, etc.) so because I was thinking about it constantly when I "woke-up" I saw a person standing at the edge of my bed with a knife. I truly woke up as soon as I realized what it was all about, but the fear itself was the most terrifying experience I've ever had. Anyway to get to the point, I think that paragraph should be refined for people who get scared easily. I know it probably sounds silly, but in my opinion you'd have to experience the fear to fully understand why I want this rewritten. I can't think of any way to rephrase it at the moment, but somthing to get the point across while still being sensitive to paranoid readers is what I'm aiming at. Code E 08:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

It's funny that you mentioned that line, I also found it to be pretty creepy. i quite often experience what i believe to be sleep paralysis which sometimes involve hallucinations of sensing or seeing people in the room. I don't think it need's to be changed though.Andy13 12:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I too found that sentence, well, utterly terrifying... I hope that when I go to sleep today I don't have a similar experience, that's for sure. I'm all for changing that sentence to something less specific, such as, "A person may "awaken", see that their room is a different color, only to "awake" again to see that the room is still the wrong color, and so on. Certianly less scary. Liquidtenmillion 01:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

You can as well delete the whole article. It overlaps with several others. The scary descriptions are correct. See sleep paralysis, nightmare (historical meaning), hypnagogia, etc., etc. Those articles have even the scary pictures. Jclerman 01:41, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

So it has a name...

I seriously get this all the time. It kills me. So frustrating. I'll come to school in a really bad mood (because it sucks when you think you're awake and you're not) and when my friends ask what's up, I'll say "I had one of those dreams where you think you're like, brushing your teeth and getting dressed, and then you wake up and realize you haven't done anything. I thought i was so on top of everything this morning, but then i woke up" and they just think i'm weird. next time, I can say "i had a false awakening." Then they won't think I'm weird! Okay maybe they will...

'Unwonted' versus 'unwanted' in Celia Green quote

Please note, the correct form is 'unwonted'; I have checked it against the original, in Green, Lucid Dreams, 1968, p.121.Ranger2006 14:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Further on ‘unwonted’ versus ‘unwanted’: ‘unwonted’ means ‘out of the ordinary’(wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn) or ‘unaccustomed’ (www.mindmagi.demon.co.uk/Bacon/reference/glossary.htm ) so makes sense here, as well as being what is in the original text.Ranger2006

Reading

Is there a citation on the not being able to read in dreams thing? I could swear I have done it as part of a false awakening. --Isra1337 11:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think I have ever read in a dream, I've looked at a book and known what it said, but the process of reading wasn't there. More specifically, i remember vividly having a dream about a roller coaster, and i was trying to read the instruction manual to it, but the words were all blurred, i tried to open my eyes further and this resulted in me waking up.. weird. Don't know if the same sort of thing would happen in a false awakening. (i've had a few false awakenings but they were all fairly surreal - like a platform game to get downstairs to breakfast - good fun though.) 213.48.15.234 12:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Reader note : I reguarly read in dreams, where I see entire sentences etc, so I can verify that this "purportedly reading in dreams is difficult or impossible" line is incorrect. I remember as a child watching an animated cartoon of Batman where Batman was lost in a dream and he realised when he couldnt read - and everything blurred. The cartoon explained that it was impossible to read in a dream. I for years thought that was a fact that was made up for the show, only to find that it is a common misbelief.

I regularly read in dreams, too - not long books, but little blurbs, like I'd have the Sporting News and read in "transactions" aboutsome baseball team promoting an 82-year-old shortstop, or something. Perhaps this is a type of dream like lucid dreaming that not everyone has - like not everyone dreams in full color, from what I understand, yet I do.

re deletion of unreferenced sentence

I have deleted the sentence flagged as in need of citation, as it is not clear what evidence could be produced for the assertion the sentence contained.Ranger2006 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Waking up

Hello folks, I think when someone wakes up from he false awakening he goes back into his first dream, right? 41.178.0.1 (talk) 12:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Epic Experience... Feedback Please

While dreaming.. I "woke up" from a dream and I was lying on my bed, feeling heavily intoxicated. It felt like I was on a combination of DXM, Alcohol, and Suboxone.. I then heard my mother coming in the front door to the apartment and didn't want her to see me in such a state. I jumped up to close my bedroom door, stumbling into my closet, then the wall, and passing out right before my door.. I felt like I was dying. Then I woke up for real. When I actually woke up, I still felt messed up as I did in the dream for about 10 seconds.. When the feeling went away and I proceeded in freaking out. The false awakening was weird enough.. but to feel the effects of the drugs I felt I was on in the dream was even scarier. My question is, how can I feel highly intoxicated/high both in the false awakening and even for a while after waking up? Can the brain be triggered by dreams to produce the same effects of drugs?

Quite fascinating and yet frightening.. Please give some feedback..