Talk:Meta-ethnicity: Difference between revisions
→Removal of line re racialist use of this term: addition of a new example |
|||
Line 21: | Line 21: | ||
::No, but IMO popular or political usage (or misusage) of a [[neologism]] that otherwise seems to appear mainly in more academic literature would be of interest. That would not be limited to a particular kind of fringe group or whatever, so other examples count too. Obviously if a term is part of everyday parlance, then it's silly to note such a thing, but I don't think "meta-ethnicity" is there yet. --[[User:A12n|A12n]] ([[User talk:A12n|talk]]) 20:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC) |
::No, but IMO popular or political usage (or misusage) of a [[neologism]] that otherwise seems to appear mainly in more academic literature would be of interest. That would not be limited to a particular kind of fringe group or whatever, so other examples count too. Obviously if a term is part of everyday parlance, then it's silly to note such a thing, but I don't think "meta-ethnicity" is there yet. --[[User:A12n|A12n]] ([[User talk:A12n|talk]]) 20:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC) |
||
== Addition of Muslims as an example for meta-ethnicity == |
|||
I believe that Muslims would be an ideal example of meta-ethnicity, with a level of commonality that is wider than ethnicity and not necessarily corresponding to a particular nationality, transcending it at times. It would fit the current definition perfectly. |
Revision as of 01:53, 22 July 2009
This is kind of experimental, but I think worth having an article on. I've seen this term well before now. Check "What links here" (for the article not the Talk) and you'll notice its use in one article on central Asian music (I enlivened a link to the term already in the text).--A12n 21:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I've added a couple of items. This is still a stub article and needs more attention. As it expands it gets into some tricky territory: how to describe the political uses of the term. This also gets beyond my expertise and interest. I first encountered the term in a compilation of articles about ethnicity in Africa published in the former Soviet Union in the 1984, which I have added to the references, and found it an interesting additional frame in which to discuss identity and ethnicity in West Africa.
What's needed:
- More info on earliest uses of the term
- Discussion on different popular and academic uses (and misuses?) today
- Comparisons to other related terms like ethnicity and nation(ality) --A12n 17:21, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Removal of external link -> question re guidelines
Just noticed this link was removed with mention of "guidelines":
...What might those guidelines be? This link was actually intended as a reference concerning the mention of racialist groups using the term (the content on this page referred to said usage). --A12n 23:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Removal of line re racialist use of this term
User:SenseOnes deleted this line: There is also some use of the term online by groups professing racialist ideas. ... with this summary: "Removed uncited (and weird/irrelevant) line." The line was uncited, that is true, but it is not "weird," and its relevance should be a matter of discussion. When researching this article I came across a couple of webpages of apparent "white power" groups on which the term was used. I did not want to cite these pages, but it raised a question that I left hanging with the line just deleted. Is the term "metaethnicity" now part of the vocabulary of such groups? If so it is of interest to know that. I won't get into a revert thing on this issue, but at some point the topic should be looked into for possible return to the article with appropriate references. --A12n (talk) 23:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Are we going to write in the article about eating that white supremacists eat too? Or write down every word and action white supremacists commit to? Meta-ethnicity as a term is increasingly being used a number of places, and this fact is the reason anyone would come to know it - be they white supremacists or not. SenseOnes (talk) 20:24, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, but IMO popular or political usage (or misusage) of a neologism that otherwise seems to appear mainly in more academic literature would be of interest. That would not be limited to a particular kind of fringe group or whatever, so other examples count too. Obviously if a term is part of everyday parlance, then it's silly to note such a thing, but I don't think "meta-ethnicity" is there yet. --A12n (talk) 20:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Addition of Muslims as an example for meta-ethnicity
I believe that Muslims would be an ideal example of meta-ethnicity, with a level of commonality that is wider than ethnicity and not necessarily corresponding to a particular nationality, transcending it at times. It would fit the current definition perfectly.