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Credited in "The Year of Decision: 1846" by historian Bernard DeVoto as perhaps an unintending proponent of the Manifest Destiny philosophy that drove the expansionism of Henry Polk's presidency. PP 9-10.

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New article name?

I'm curious why the article was moved. It seems to me "Brook Farm" almost always refers to this very famous community. Nevertheless, even if a move was necessary, naming it with the parenthetical phrase "Boston, Massachusetts" is bizarre considering that the community was and is, technically, outside of Boston. Thoughts? --Midnightdreary (talk) 02:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for raising this issue. It was I what moved the article. I don't want to impose any bizarreness. The disambiguation page I created, at Brook Farm, lists this one and 2 others. If this one is really clearly the wp:primary topic for this term, then I would agree to moving the disambiguation page to "Brook Farm (disambigation)" and moving this article back to "Brook Farm" with a hat-note stating something like, "For other uses, see Brook Farm (disambiguation)".

I set up the disambiguation page and moved the article while preparing, myself, to visit the New York state, NRHP-listed Brook Farm, in the Skaneateles, New York area. I did visit it, and have pics to upload and material to add to its article. I will grant upfront that it does not seem to have more than New York state-level importance. So my current impression is that this Massachusetts one is more important, though I don't yet agree necessarily that this one meets "primary topic" type importance.

The current article states this is in West Roxbury, Massachusetts, which is a neighborhood within Boston, Massachusetts. The disambiguation page that i set up states that it is in North Roxbury (at this moment i don't know what the source for that was, did the current article change?) But, isn't all of Roxbury within Boston? And, if so, what is the problem with identifying this as being in Boston? Is it inside or outside of Boston city limits? Certainly the facts of this can be resolved, and we can either move it to a better parenthetical location, or we can establish primary usage and move it back to the original name. I will watch here for further discussion. doncram (talk) 03:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I don't think of West Roxbury as part of Boston proper. It's more than a "neighborhood," too - it has its own zip code, library, post office, and is far enough outside of the main part of Boston that it's always referred to as West Roxbury. I guess I'm single-minded but this "Brook Farm" strikes me as the first thing people think of when they hear that phrase. It might also be worth noting a similar Transcendental community with the article title Fruitlands (transcendental center). I might recommend Brook Farm (community). I'd love to hear other thoughts. --Midnightdreary (talk) 10:42, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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	:The current article states this is in [[West Roxbury, Massachusetts]], which is a neighborhood within Boston, Massachusetts. The disambiguation page that i set up states that it is in North Roxbury (at this moment i don't know what the source for that was, did the current article change?) But, isn't all of Roxbury within Boston? And, if so, what is the problem with identifying this as being in Boston? Is it inside or outside of Boston city limits? Certainly the facts of this can be resolved, and we can either move it to a better parenthetical location, or we can establish primary usage and move it back to the original name. I will watch here for further discussion. [[User:Doncram\|doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram\|talk]]) 03:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)		:The current article states this is in [[West Roxbury, Massachusetts]], which is a neighborhood within Boston, Massachusetts. The disambiguation page that i set up states that it is in North Roxbury (at this moment i don't know what the source for that was, did the current article change?) But, isn't all of Roxbury within Boston? And, if so, what is the problem with identifying this as being in Boston? Is it inside or outside of Boston city limits? Certainly the facts of this can be resolved, and we can either move it to a better parenthetical location, or we can establish primary usage and move it back to the original name. I will watch here for further discussion. [[User:Doncram\|doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram\|talk]]) 03:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
			::I guess I don't think of West Roxbury as part of Boston proper. It's more than a "neighborhood," too - it has its own zip code, library, post office, and is far enough outside of the main part of Boston that it's always referred to as West Roxbury. I guess I'm single-minded but this "Brook Farm" strikes me as the first thing people think of when they hear that phrase. It might also be worth noting a similar Transcendental community with the article title [[Fruitlands (transcendental center)]]. I might recommend [[Brook Farm (community)]]. I'd love to hear other thoughts. --[[User:Midnightdreary\|Midnightdreary]] ([[User talk:Midnightdreary\|talk]]) 10:42, 22 July 2009 (UTC)