Talk:Notre Dame Victory March

Public High Schools use of the tune

I graduated from a public high school, Ballard High School (Louisville), that at the time, (I graduated in 1974), used the tune for its fight song. I have no idea if it is still used by Ballard. I understand that other public schools use it as well. --rogerd 04:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

• Question - why are there lyrics here? Lyrics are generally copyrighted and may not be included for that reason, and lyrics are definitely source text which Wikipedia tends to avoid. Radiant_>|< 11:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
  • This is very different from lyrics to a current pop tune. Under U.S. law these lyrics would have entered the public domain long ago (if they were ever copyrighted in the first place). Furthermore, with the number of schools around the world that have adopted the tune and variations of the lyrics. I think this is, if not sui generis, at least so different than other examples of the use of lyrics that it is not within the scope anticipated by WP:NOT. -- DS1953 ^talk 17:56, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Notre Dame's athletic web site has an explanation of this. The famous chorus and its melody are now in the public domain in the United States (though not in most other countries) and landed there in the 1980s, which is one reason you hear renditions and adaptations in so many commercials, etc. But the verse that starts "Rally sons of Notre Dame..." and its melody, were copyrighted in the 1920s and thus still protected. See http://und.cstv.com/trads/nd-fightsong.html Cheemo 01:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

NPOV

Please, let's try to keep the mention of the song as "one of the most popular..." in accordance with WP:NPOV. Just because one professor thinks it is the best, doesn't mean this encyclopedia should say it is the best. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 14:26, 21 September 2006 (UTC)