Talk:United States

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Current population (est.): 338,984,000 as of December 29, 2024. The USCB projects 439 million by 2050

Vandalism

Vandalism on this article! Article destroyed! (cur) (prev) 08:26, 25 July 2009 ClueBot (talk | contribs) m (159,919 bytes) (Reverting possible vandalism by Contra10 to version by DCGeist. False positive? Report it. Thanks, ClueBot. (743512) (Bot)) Bot did not work, so vandalism still present. I am not an established registered user, so it seems I cannot revert the vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iwnit (talk • contribs) 09:42, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Race vs Ethnicity

There is a statement under the culture section which reads, "there is no American ethnicity aside from the now relatively small Native Americans." First of all, I find this to be debatable considering most Americans would be considered foreigners and ethnic aliens if they returned to the country from which their ancestors emmigrated from. I'm a Dutch American, but I cannot speak Dutch, I've never been to the Netherlands, I don't know very much at all about Dutch culture, ect. Why, you ask? Well, my family has been in this country for two centuries and is now fully American. I seriously doubt any Dutch person would claim me as his/her ethnic brethren. Indeed, the only people on this planet that I share a common history, language, culture, and tradition with are Americans. Ethnicity should not be confused with race. A person can be of any race but still belong to a certain ethnic group. Hispanics are a good example of this. So while I may not be racially American, I am most definately culturally American; de facto ethnic American. So I propose to change the original sentence to state, "there is no American 'race' aside from the now relatively small Native Americans. Yongbyong38 (talk) 16:47, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Is tehr any sources you would like to provide to back up your rquest?Slatersteven (talk) 14:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest clicking American ethnicity. Yongbyong38 (talk) 18:24, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

"Some other race" in the U.S. Census

Those Latinos, almost 50%, who answer "Some Other Race" to the U.S. Census basically mean "mixed race" or "Multiracial", so the U.S. Census Bureau should join together that 7% with the 1,6% who answer "Multiracial". The real percentage of "mixed race" Americans then is about 10% right now, taking into account the Latinos. Meanwhile, another 8% of Latinos answer "White" to the U.S. Census and these, it is right, are just part of the 74% White Americans.--88.26.56.108 (talk) 20:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a source for this?Slatersteven (talk) 14:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Demographics Race/Ethnicity

This table is misleading because different classifications are mixed in a single table making the sum exceeding 100%.

One is the race, White/African American/Asian/AIAN/NHPI and another is Hispanic or not.

So, I changed the table using the same classification "Non-Hispanic whites/Hispanic/ African American/Asian..." as Demographics of the United States#Projections before.

However it is reverted by User:DCGeist.

So I changed the table less problematic way, splitting the table and added "Not Hispanic" Phoenix7777 (talk) 22:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

The eccentricities of the "Hispanic origin" in the census are, I think, adequately explained in the text. Them being listed at the end of the table, with the note, is sufficient without having to design new tables and criteria. --Golbez (talk) 22:24, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I already have changed the table. Please review it again.

Also the name of "Hispanic or Latino"[1] has changed to "Hispanic"[2] in the classification from 2007.

The name of source is "Annual Estimates of the Population by Sex, Race, and Hispanic Origin for the United States: April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2007 (NC-EST2007-03)"[3] not "Annual Estimates of the Population by Sex, Race, and Hispanic or Latino Origin for the United States: April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2007 (NC-EST2006-03)". Phoenix7777 (talk) 22:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Phoenix7777 (talk) 02:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC) Hispanics who answer "Some Other Race" in the U.S. Census are in fact "Multiracial"...but we can say the same about most "Hawaiians", "Native Americans" and even 25% of "African Americans", all them MULTIRACIAL.--83.53.111.180 (talk) 07:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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DocKino reverted my edit by explaining "restore proper formatting of table per official sourcing"[4].

However, official source[5] classifies "NOT HISPANIC" and "HISPANIC" under "BOTH SEXES".

I reverted to "proper formatting of table".

Also you should not cite the source in 2008. Figures in 2008 has been changed from 2007. If you would like to use 2008 version, you should update whole descriptions related to the source. In addition, your citation is inconsistent, citing 2007 source with the name of 2008.

Please read above discussions carefully. —— Phoenix7777 (talk) 01:06, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Space and coding weight is at a premium here. The addition of the "NOT HISPANIC" line is completely supererogatory (and mathematically obvious). As for being careful, you be careful in the future not to revert unargued edits--as you just did--simply because you have a particular point to contest. DocKino (talk) 03:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

Does anyone notice that the entire article was deleted and vandalized? It now says "You have been F10wed" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.77.38 (talk) 15:14, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Usa superpower anymore.

Today the first power is EU(not a superpower). Superpower (in latin means above) as written in the article is a political being able to do everithing without receiving lethal hits.Usa can't do it first of all and has't ever been able to do it also in the period of Soviet Union.The only EU states have nukes (non Nato shared) to cancel Earth several times (so the other weapons are tins).Russia has about the double of nukes of Usa and so on... Usa publicdebt/ gdp (considering as well FNM and FRE bonds guaranteed by US government,otherwise whose debts are these ones?)is TODAY about 120%.US gouvernment today is only moving private debts to public debt but the whole debt is growing all the same. US global debt (private+public) 212000 trillions $ US citizen global debt 712000 $ US citizen global debt taxpayer 1087000 $ US global debt/gdp 1550%!!!!!

Datas are very clear and you can check them in Wikipedia and in a lot of official websites.Somebody (as somebody that dislike today datas )can cancel as a stupid vandal this words,but US debts are always there.VERBA VOLANT SCRIPTA MANENT (only a latin people that studied latin can understand the real meaning and mood of these words).May be just now french submarines with M45 rockets or other EU nuclear weapons have ready nukes to cancel Usa or Earth.Not only Usa have military secrets.Now vandals or US propaganda men or US nationalists or also polite men can start with different answers.It rests the shame of who cancelled this article some minutes ago.This act doesn't change reality.I'm invalid in some acting but more intelligent than a lot of people.151.60.117.153 (talk) 01:09, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

From the Superpower article - "A superpower is a state with a leading position in the international system and the ability to influence events and its own interests and project power on a worldwide scale to protect those interests; it is traditionally considered to be one step higher than a great power." The US, and while it existed the USSR, is clearly a superpower. The EU could be considered one if it was, in fact, a state in it's own right but it isn't. Also it was never about nukes or the ability "to do everithing without receiving lethal hits," only the ability to influence world events to it's own benefit. OptimumPx (talk) 16:50, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

You clarity and intelligence are appreciated Optimum, but more productively focused elsewhere. Please don't feed the troll.—DCGeist (talk) 17:20, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

How can accuse me of feed the trol.I wrote just an edit.Who are you to offend me?Be careful.151.60.118.161 (talk) 23:22, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Demonym / gentilic (United States is of America, not America)

I personally believe that the actual Demonym or gentilic for a United States person should be unitedstatean or something similar, due to the fact that people in other american countries are also american, as for europeans are europens despite of being from France, Italy, Spain, GB and so on. So for instance a venezuelan, cuban, argentinian, mexican, canadian, aruban, brazilean, jamaican, etc. etc., are also american citizens. If you should go and check the gentilic in other languages it actually is unitedstatean (check Wikipwdia in other languages). Why in english and french (I don't know other languages) should be any different? I know this sounds more of a personal thought or personal believe, but in fact being an american person, I feel pretty much obliged to ask for this change. I don't deny that the United States people are in fact american citizens, but they are primarily from the United States that is IN(of) America, not America (as a whole). It actually represents some form of abuse and discrimination (in the generalized way that is spoken of america, refering to the United States as a whole), being the fact that I, as an american citizen, don't live in the United States and wasn't born in there and haven't experienced the United States way of life. Just for an example, the generalization of american dream, and native american is completely narrowed, as it does not represent, for the case of the latter mentioned, the incan and mayan comunities (just to name another mayor native american comunities). If you want to use any distinction there is Anglo-Saxon America and Latin America, to use Language distinction (there are others languages, and other distinctions) Most of all being in a politically correct world, this should be changed. Thank you

Javaplana (talk) 18:44, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

What you personally think doesn't matter, is highly flawed (there is no continent called just "America"), and flies flat in the face of reality (Brazilians want to be called Brazilian, not American). --OuroborosCobra (talk) 19:25, 26 July 2009 (UTC)