Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Reenactment

I've created this project as I felt the amount of articles on reenactment was a bit lacking and the articles unproportionally americanocentric. Right now I seem to be the only person interested in writing about reenactment, but since we already have articles on experimental archaeology and similar obscurities, maybe there is some hope. Maybe this should be extended to include LARP as sometimes the borders are nearly non-existant (a typical criticism regarding SCA member groups). I fear that might corrupt the focus a bit, tho, so I left that uncovered for now (Dungeons and Dragons isn't exactly on-topic when it comes to historical reenactment).

I hope nobody smites me for creating and listing a stub template before reading the rules for categorized stubs, but I didn't want to go on a spree and create stubs for all the topics that are currently missing (besides, any list I could come up with is all but exhaustive, my knowledge is pretty much limited to English and German medieval reenactment). --Ashmodai 13:41, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind the stub template, that seems to have been dealt with. Oopsie. --Ashmodai 06:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good idea all. I see this hasnt been updated in over a year, I will try and kickstart it with a few article cleanups :P user:Pzg Ratzinger

Civil war

Just a quick note while I remember: we've got an awful lot of articles referring to the 'Civil War'. Most of them I can figure out whether they refer to the English Civil War, the American Civil War, or something else from List of civil wars, but it might be worth remembering to specify when we create new articles. Ojw 00:29, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Indeed. So far I've mostly been referring to the American Civil War, because that's what most articles about reenactment seem to focus on. English Civil War, World War 2 and Napoleonic reenactment are mostly uncovered so far. -- Ashmodai 10:07, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

I'd favour clear stating which civil war you're talking about somewhere near the beginning of any new article, any references after that can be assumed to be the same, unless explicitly stated otherwise --Hikari 20:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

A good photo of mine taken of an english civil war re-enactment near where i live (Image:Civil war reeanactment.JPG) Megatonman (talk) 11:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

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This article needs help!

“Reenacting began during the 1961-1965 Civil War centennial commemorations”

It’s more accurate to say that modern, authentic reenacting has its origins from then. In fact, the Civil War was reenacted before 1961 by elements of the U.S. Army as field exercises and demonstrations.

“To date the largest Civil War reenactment was 125th. Gettysburg (1988), which had over 25,000 reenactors and over 150,000 spectators attending.”

I was there. I recall 10,400 participants. Don’t know how many spectators. And I think a subsequent event was bigger, but by then I was burning out fast and stopped paying attention. At any rate, a citation is needed for this statement.

“Some people are interested in reenacting other historical events, such as Revolutionary War battles, but Civil War reenactment is by far the most popular activity in this area”

In what area? A more general statement like, “…Civil War reenacting continues to be the most widely attended form of historical reenacting in the Washington D.C. region, due, probably, to the many historical sites in the area.”

“Some reenactors, however, will tell you that the term Farb means "Far Be it for me to question his impression."”

This is a widely-held myth as to the origin of this word. It was popularized by George Gorman. See http://wesclark.com/jw/forigin.html for the correct word origin.

“A common derogatory term for such a reenactor is a "Button-Pisser," due to the fact some will soak the buttons in boiling urine to get the "accurate" luster.”

I suggest this be deleted entirely. This is a reference to a 1994 Wall Street Journal article by Tony Horwitz about hardcores. I suspect that it’s more of a reference to a published story than a description of common hardcore practice. WSJ article: http://wesclark.com/jw/hodge.html

Jonah Begone

Sorry, I'm lost, which article is this (that needs the help), Jonah? Salvianus 22:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Historical re-enactment Categorisation as Live-action role-playing games

Would this be an appropriate place to ask if anyone else agrees that Historical re-enactment should not be categorised under Live-action role-playing games? I'm sure there might be a case for arguing they are related in some way, as I understand that the SCA has an authentic wing, but I don't see how actual Historical re-enactment is a sub-set of LARP. Any objections to me deleting this categorisation? Salvianus 22:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

O.K, I've done that. Salvianus 23:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletions (WP:PROD)

• 23 September 2007 - expires 28 September
  • Freier Haufe zu Coeln e.V. (PROD by User:62.143.99.219; PROD nominator states: "NN. See Zeit der Schwerter. German sister article apparently deleted." Excerpt: "Freier Haufe zu Coeln e.V. is a non-commercial medieval combat reenactment group based in Cologne, Germany.") --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Zeit der Schwerter (PROD by User:62.143.99.219; PROD nominator states: "NN. No sources available. De facto abolished as of 2007. Never grown big enough to justify archival." Excerpt: "Zeit der Schwerter is a German medieval reenactment umbrella group founded by several groups from the Rhine-Ruhr region in 2005 in an effort to organise larger reenactment events across Germany and promote a safe ruleset for live steel semi-contact sparring.") --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Proposed WikiProject importance parameters

• Top: Articles fundamental to an understanding of reenacting, such as Historical reenactment, or explaining basic concepts common to multiple reenactment periods, such as Farb (reenactment), and Authenticity (reenactment).
• High: Commonly reenacted periods such as Medieval reenactment and American Civil War reenactment. Largest or most significant reenactments, particularly when dealt with in a general sense (consider Battle of Hastings reenactment as opposed to Hastings 2006).
• Mid: Less commonly reenacted periods, such as Korean War reenactment. Largest umbrella reenactment groups. Large reenactments, particularly when referring to an individual event (consider Hastings 2000 or Hastings 2006, as opposed to Battle of Hastings reenactment). Mid-sized reenactments referred to in a general sense.
• Low: Smaller umbrella reenactment groups. Individual reenactment groups (2nd South Carolina String Band). Smaller events referred to in a general sense (Dixie Days).

That's my proposal...thoughts? Cmadler (talk) 16:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

4 months, no comments. I'm moving this to Wikipedia:WikiProject Reenactment/Assessment and implementing it. Cmadler (talk) 14:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

QUESTION: As we classify reenactment events based on size, to what degree should that be audience size versus number of participants (consider Slag om Grolle with perhaps 350 participants but 30,000 in audience)? Should size be absolute among all reenactments (in which case the very largest is probably Gettysburg 135 (1998) estimated at 15,000 to 20,000 reenactors) or should should size be considered differently for different periods (in which case Hastings 2000, with about 1500 participants, might be considered a "large" reenactments even though a similarly sized American Civil War reenactment might only be considered "mid-size")? Thanks, cmadler (talk) 19:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposed merger of Comparison of historical reenactment events

I have proposed that Comparison of historical reenactment events be merged into List of historical reenactment events. Any members of this Wikiproject can leave their comments here Talk:List of historical reenactment events#Merger proposal. Thanks, --Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 01:37, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

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I will volunteer to represent WikiProject Reenactment in this working group, unless someone else wants to, in which case you are more than welcome to it! cmadler (talk) 13:33, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks. — Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 09:36, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Are there enough articles on this subject to justify an Outline of reenactment?

By the way, here's a relevant discussion about subject development you might find interesting.

Now back to the question...

The Transhumanist    01:15, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I must confess, I don't really understand the purpose(s) of outlines as described. It seems to me that an "Outline of X" would cover the same material that should be covered in any complete "X" article. cmadler (talk) 16:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)