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Wikiholics

Yes, I'm an RC junky. ;-) Check your email. --snoyes 05:01, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Funny, I was just adding it when I saw your comment. :). I think we need to start Wikipedia:Wikiholics anonymous. --snoyes 05:24, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Yes! Definitely! Um... but not tonight. :) Email coming to ya... a quick silly. - UtherSRG 05:30, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hehe. The quote did not come out of a vacuum. I sent an email to the wikipedia-english mailing list reiterating my call for the ban of a specific user. ? (With said quote - naturally) ;-)--snoyes 05:38, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

You still on WP? looks like you might have left a half hour ago. I need to find a sysop, & where in the world is Angela when i need her! (Shame on me.) --Jerzy 17:00, 2004 Jan 21 (UTC)

Thanx for welcoming me

Hi! Thanks for leaving me aa little welcome message!Frogprincess1312 06:20, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Well that's all I had to say :-D Laudaka 14:29, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice welcome - Drago9034 05:04, Jan 29, 2004 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for the welcome! Mark Richards

Thank you for welcoming me to Wikipedia my goal is to do the best that I can to help improve wikipedia in all of the areas that I can. Daniel.

Thanks for the welcome note. Helped me understand the User talk thing, and was encouraging. I've been editing modestly for a while now. You set a nice tone for friendly welcoming which invites new users to feel at home. Kd4ttc 03:00, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for welcoming me. However I guess I stay on the German Wikipedia project and just add the inter wiki links here. -- MichaelHaeckel 19:18, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. I really don't know anyone around here yet, and it was nice to know that somebody cared! Jeru 11:07, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Taxa et al.

Hi there. I just wanted to say thank you for tidying up after me and for all your tireless work on taxa and the like. I know it can be a thankless job, but you've certainly got mine! :) Hadal 05:57, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Fishes

Hee hee, forced by circumstances; went to the library to get 2nd volume of American Beetles (which seems to be a best source of current taxa), but it was checked out! So checked out Nelson again instead, restarted my previous piscean efforts. There are about 400 families left to describe, and good online info at FishBase, just have to turn it into English. :-) Just got my copy of Colledge for RN ships too, almost regretting having to leave for a week's vacation in the Caribbean... :-) Stan 06:37, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

BTW, in taxoboxes, editors generally don't favor trying to indent with ":", because it makes the boxes too wide and squishes the text for people with smaller screens; sometimes shallow indents are done with multiple nbsp bits. I generally don't call much attention to superfamilies/suborders myself, just include them "for the record", for nonscientists they're kind of a distraction on the way to the interesting critters. :-) Stan 07:15, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Birds

Hi Uther. I know you are putting a great deal of work into those long genera listings in taxoboxes, but I think we need to discuss it. The current convention is that we simply say "many: see text" where there are a lot of genera to list. This is something that evolved over a period of time when we tried lots of different ideas out, and I think most of the people working on vertebrates are comfortable with this. It would be wise, I think, to talk it over with the main contributors to the bird (and related) articles. Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds would be a good place, or pop a note on Jim's and Big Iron's talk pages. Best Tannin 14:44, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Croc pic

Do with the croc pic as you will - I've found one for Cobra too. Jim

Whales articles

Thanks for all the cpediting on the various new dolphin articles. It is appreciated. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 09:03, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Selaginella

Hi Uther - As far as I'm aware, there is only the one currently recognised genus Selaginella in the order, with 700+ species. But I strongly suspect that's because no-one has done a critical revision of the genus for about a hundred years. Can't see one getting done, either, given their lack of economic importance. - MPF 16:34, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Turtur

Pease could you clarify why you have listed turtur at Wikipedia:Deleted_test#New_notices. Thanks. Angela . 00:42, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)

Binomial nomenclature vs. Binomial name

You said at Clymene Dolphin that you have been changing binomial name to binomial nomenclature "all other the place". I am not sure that is true for the whales and dolphins - I have all of them on my watchlist and haven't noticed you make that change on them. More importantly, is it definitely right? What we are filling in at that point is the binomial or scientific name.. not the nomenclature which tells how to create the binomial name. So its better to write binomial name right? Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 16:43, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

My understanding is that the "two part name" used is "binomial nomenclature". It's a fancy way of saying the same thing, with the understanding that it comes from a certain process and isn't just arbitrary. Not just any "two part name" is "binomial nomenclature". My name is Stacey Greenstein, but that's not binomial nomenclature. There was no systemic approach to calling me that. The Genus-Species paired names come from a systemic naming system, and so "nomenclature" is appropriate. - UtherSRG

Oh, and I just haven't gotten to the whales since I've started this. *grins* - UtherSRG 16:52, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I think you are getting confused between the process of constructing a binomial name. That process is called binomial nomenclature. A particular name, once constructed according to that method, is the binomial name of the species. Thus the appropiate title at that point in the taxobox is binomial name, not binomial nomenclature. I am not making this up - see e.g. dictionary.com's definition of nomenclature here - http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nomenclature - in particular definition 2. Thanks! Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 19:16, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Interesting. Ah, but if you scroll down you will see Webster's definition, which indicates that "nomenclature" is both the name and the system that generates the name. I give. I don't care that much either way. I'm more interested in making sure all the data in the taxoboxes and all taxa pages are formatted correctly and give proper notation (italics, bolding, links). - UtherSRG 19:37, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It looks like Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life and Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds have different recommendations. I'll try to solicit some more opinions about what is most appropiate in this case. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 19:52, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

taxo comments

Two brief comments. Firstly, I'm with Tannin on keeping taxoboxes lean and mean. Secondly, in my view Marsh Harrier should stay as one article for the time being. The splits are not universally accepted, and the three articles would be very similar. I have adopted a similar approach with other species that are possible splits, and even occasionally for unarguable, but very similar species, such as Kittiwake. Jim.

Drongo

Re Drongo endings: don't know, Tannin is the taxoexpert for this group. I'll take that line out since it's not inmost species taxoboxes anyway, and I've got to edit to add a picture. Jim.

WikiProject Primates

I get a smile on my face every time I see your name. *grins* Perhaps you'd like to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Primates?

You made my day :)), thank you! The funniest part was when I belatedly discovered that Humus is very different from the intended Hummus. My original idea was homo sapiens with a Mediterranean flavor... Sorry I'll have to refuse this offer for now: afraid I won't be a constructive contributor there. Humus sapiens 21:39, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I'm in now; I'd been meaning to, actually.. but hadn't yet committed. :) I'll probably focus on writeups of salient species or genera we don't yet have covered. Primate taxa, however, makes me cringe. By the way, nice work on the status msg tags; it's a great feature! Cheers, -- Hadal 19:08, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

taxoboxes

Hi Uther,
Thanks for the note - anything I should be noting in particular?
Generally when I put in a new taxobox, I just copy across from a related species, so as to minimise the munber of items to change. There's a bewildering variety of different constructions, even though they all look more-or-less the same in general appearance! Thanks - MPF 23:48, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)

True. We're no longer linking the taxon rank titles. That's the biggest one. Check out the few samples on the page, and the talk page. - UtherSRG 23:52, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hi. About Liriodendron. Didn't we decide to bold only the taxon in question? The species list in that case would not be bolded if the article is for a genus. Or am I missing something? -- WormRunner 17:48, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Yes. However, take a look at What links there. The page is the species page as well! - UtherSRG 17:50, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Aconitum

Hi Uther, just done a bit edit on Aconitum which ended up with a time conflict with yours on saving; as it had quite a lot of typo corrections etc in, I didn't want to just abandon it so put it on top of yours - can you check to see if there's anything of yours lost in the process? Thanks MPF 14:59, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Looks like we had the same things in mind. *grins* - UtherSRG 15:02, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Spider monkey

:) I think I'm done for now; I'm not sure how in-depth to go for a genus-level article. Hope it's up to scratch and such. By the way, were you the one who requested a better image for the hominid page? If so, what did you have in mind? (I'm tempted to look for some decent shots and beg pitifully for permission.) -- Hadal 19:27, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Neon Tetra

I see you've handled this already, thanks! - Hephaestos|§ 02:26, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Iguanas

Hi, I did the move you requested. I wasn't sure whether iguanas should be delinked in the lizard article, or whether something was going to go at that title. Angela . 13:18, Apr 2, 2004 (UTC)

image size

Is there any special reason to set image width in taxonomy tables to 200px? Especially when an article is a stub, and the image is more or less all its contents? Iorsh 15:17, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

page move

the deed is done -incidentally, this page is 46k long now jimfbleak

Thanks. And now I've done archived and reduced this page. :) - UtherSRG 15:54, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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 Hi, thanks for welcoming me. However I guess I stay on the German Wikipedia project and just add the inter wiki links here. -- [[User:MichaelHaeckel|MichaelHaeckel]] 19:18, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
+Thanks for the welcome. I really don't know anyone around here yet, and it was nice to know that somebody cared! [[User:Jeru|Jeru]] 11:07, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
 == Taxa et al. ==