Talk:Modern Talking

Template:FAOL It's a little bizarre to say that Modren Talking were preceived as a gay group in the United Kingdom, and I would dispute that (not that it matters, being gay myself). Whilst it is true that their early singles were played in gay clubs in the early 80s, the real reason for their lack of success in Britain, would I feel, mainly be due to the fact that Britain has a distaste for Euro Pop in general. They do not mind the 'one off' euro hit, but generally the style of Modern Talking would never have sat favourably in the UK Playlists of radio stations. Britain has always 'looked down'on the style of music that Modern Talking produced, considering it trite and without substance. Of course not all European music has had the same reception in the UK, Abba being a notable example. But then, Abba cannot possibly be compared to Modern Talking, being musically in another league to this band. But you know, I did like Modern Talking,catchy songs, although they all sounded the same!!

Neutral tone

This article reads like a fan page: "Composer Dieter Bohlen employed mood-evoking lyrics and intellectually-designed, synthesizer-based music". Putting aside the obvious and laughable hyperbole, this is unsourced original research, and this entire article should be in the tone of an encyclopedia article and not a record company press release. Also, cut down on the hyphenation, my German friends. "Intellectually-designed" is not proper English usage. Unigolyn 11:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Other Facts

The article says "Modern Talking is the only band to Score five consecutive number one singles in Germany along with Boney M." How can they be the only band to achieve this if Boney M also did it? Mrwhizzard 20:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Picture

Who replaced the previous picture of MT by the current one? I want to see that 80's picture again...they are an 80's group above all.

   You can see this in the "history" tab...

Compliations

The Compilations are not chronological.

For user: tell the trooth

Please refrain from future non-constructive alterations to this article. Repeated alterations of similar nature will constitute vandalism to the article and will be treated as such.

I have spent many hours on this article and I'm quite familiar with a duo's history. The information that you continually keep including cannot be found within the official web site of Modern Talking/Thomas Anders. And I certainly hope you have not been drawn to this nonsense because you see Dieter Bohlen standing next to some guys [1] which could very easily be told by anybody that the image of Dieter Bohlen is simply added on. Also, it is an unpofessionally written article with grammatical errors and cannot be used as a reliable source.

If you are still going to insist on it then you're going to have to come up with other useful sources, this will not do it. In other words, your persistant reversions basing on those sources are only going to make you end up in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents --Harout72 (talk) 01:09, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Missing Parts

Is true here need to exist the basic info, but many important information is missing, what about the real voices of Modern Talking?. Thomas Anders and Dieter Bohlen were always who we could see in covers, posters, videos, etc, but in same way that Mini Vanilli and Boney M, Den Harrow, etc. (they had help of other singers). The real voices in chorus, the real choir were Systems In Blue (Rolf Köhler, Michael Scholz and Detlef Wiedeke), together with Birger Corleis. I know there are some interest in hide this "dark" part, for people that believe is a kind of threath to Bohlen or something like "to destroy dreams", this is just very stupid in my opinion, the truth is the truth, we have to give the right credit to all people that make this band possible, and this is not classificated or secret info, these are not rumours, these are facts, that we can't hide with a finger. The public need to read the truth, and not the so well known and manipulated story that we read by years. We do all with respect of course.

Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC) Modern Talking biographer

I have never seen this coming from a reliable source. I've seen this nonsense in Fan-made pages, but not anywhere reliable. Every new statement that going to be inserted has to be supported by highly reliable sources.--Harout72 (talk) 23:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but I am making a serious investigation since years and myself I had see the proofs with my own eyes, talking with the people involved, is logic it don't appear in the normal biographies, but exist the trials, exist the documents that whoever can get if really follow this issue. I am not lying, those are just the facts. Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC) Modern Talking biographer

I am sorry, but nothing of that kind will be allowed to be inserted unless there is a highly reliable source supporting such a thing.--Harout72 (talk) 23:55, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

ok do you want a highly proof?, take the album "Let's Talk about Love" and please read the credits, I don't know who you are, and why you try to hide the real facts, what is your interest for hide this information to the public?, this is internet and we have rights, you can't change the story only because you want, what you do is a kind of crimen, let the truth to be free and respect please!!!. Give me your mail for talk in private about it if you want to continue this discussion. If this article is serious need to be objetive and not unfair like it had been until now. Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC) Modern Talking biographer

Please familiarize yourself with WP:RS. It's quite clear that you are new at wikipedia. If no reliable source has so far published anything like what you are suggesting, well, perhaps, they are rumors. By the way, on the booklet of Let's Talk About Love, it reads: Many thanks to our friends: Birger Corleis, Rolf Koehler, Michael Scholz, Ralf Stemmann, Dieter Wiedeke, Arnie-Studio and all the fans of Modern Talking. Does this mean that we should also believe that some of the MT fans have produced vocals? I am not sure what you expected me to understand after I read it.--Harout72 (talk) 00:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

of course I am very new here, just some minutes ago I registered and wanted to make my contribution to this issue that I follow since many time ago, in this album is written the names of this people for the first time, why? coincidence?, is not the only, also get please the booklet of blue system albums, i don't remember in which exactly in this moment, but Bohlen wrote a public thanks to this people that worked in the choir of his productions, what rumour you talk?, what other proof are you searching?, at the end, where is the damage?, by the way I also read, that you think is a picture montage this picture of Bohlen together with SIB? LOL, this is a real picture from early 90's that I took in my hands. Please watch in youtube the report akte 03 about the truth of Modern Talking. Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC) Modern Talking biographer

What other proof am I after? Let me ask you this, did you familiarize yourself with WP:RS, did you read this here? If not please do so.--Harout72 (talk) 00:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

in same way, can you give me any reliable source saying that my info is fake?, what else do you want?, there are books, serious articles in respetable magazines, own texts in booklets, reports of trials, golden records with the names of this artists, documents, etc... I just write who were singing the chorus in Modern Talking and you delete it without any rights!!!, do you still believe, the picture of Dieter Bohlen with Rolf, Michael and Detlef is false or a edit trick?, please... what right have you for decide what is reliable info and what not?. You are making vandalism hidden info and only showing what you want. When will we have real serious info about this band here?. Some people still believe that Dieter bohlen sang in Modern Talking, when the own ex-producer Ralf Stemman, declared he never gave an only note!!. (I don't write that here, but we know). I ask for justice here, this article is total manipulated and don't tell the truth!!. Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC) Modern Talking biographer

I guess this means you didn't read WP:RS, I am sorry I can't help you any further than this. We need reliable sources and end of story.--Harout72 (talk) 01:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

yes i read very well, and according to that I am able to write what I write and you in your vandalims delete, also you keep external links that are not reliable, just fansites that share illegal mp3s and make damage to this music, I think wikipedia don't allow that, but you keep only what you want, like absolute dictator, also, who are you for "end" a story?, the sacred king of the info?, I find this unfair, I also read, what you said of another user that tried to say the truth before me, my respect to this person, is a pity wikipedia couldn't give a real serious story about this band that I love and follow since long time. Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC) Modern Talking biographer

Bluesky84, you are absolute right! I (and also other people) hase always changed on this page that dieter is no singer. The high-pitched parts are sung by Rolf Köhler, Detlef Wiedecke, Michael Scholz (alias Systems In Blue). The voices of Systems In Blue are very similar to the voices of Modern Talking Refrains. The main voice of Systems in Blue (Rolf Köhler) is the same voice as the mainvoice of Blue System Refrains. And if you listen to the song "Let's Talk about Love", you can hear very clear the voice of Rolf Köhler in the refrain of the song. In this song he sing 'normal', without high pitched voice. The mainvoice of the refrain of "Let's Talk About Love" is the same voice as the Blue System refrains, and that is the same voice as the Systems In Blue refrains. And that's Rolf Köhler. Everybody can hear with his own ears! And there are many realistic sources and references on the internet about this and it's is not fake. There is a documentary from the german tv on youtube: Akte 03 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDxvKKouTJs), there you can see that Rolf Köhler is singin and you can hear demotapes with the real voice of dieter bohlen, and dieter has a very limited voice and it's not similair to the Modern Talking chorus. It's true that SIB are not Modern Talking: Dieter and Thomas are Modern Talking, but SIB helped together with Modern Talking in the studios. SIB are a part of Modern Talking. And they sale there voices to Dieter. SIB helped Dieter with the songs of Modern Talking and that is a truth. It has been proved, we can hear it at the songs and there is enough information about it on the internet. Look to other the Modern Talking pages of the other languages from wikipedia: their names have been written, such as the german (deutsch), spanish (espanol) and especially the dutch (nederlands) wikipedia, there is very much info about the chorus of Modern Talking. And why this info must be hidden on this page? I love Modern Talking because the high pitched voices. They are very typical for Modern Talking and i know they are sung by Systems In Blue. Thats the reason i have very much respect to them. I have respect for Thomas Anders, he is a great singer and of course i have also respect to Dieter Bohlen. He is the founder, composer and creator of Modern Talking, but he is no singer!

Sorry for my bad english, i hope that i am clear. 83.83.95.239 (talk) 10:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

thanks for you comment, many people over the world already know the facts, so there are not reason, a person here in wikipedia try to manipulate the information, he is warning me now saying that will accuse me of vandalism, when the only vandal is he!!, he has not rights for change the story, I put some facts in the biography, with the reliable source in external links, that is a link that himself took like realiable before, THE SAME BMG ADMITED ROLF, MICHAEL; DETLEF AND BIRGER WERE THE CHOIR OF MODERN TALKING, but he deletes it now and say that is unnecessary??, what is unnnecessary is him, he need to be blocked for hide information, for keep only false things, and for don't let to decent people to express and contribute to the real history of this music band. Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC) Modern Talking biographer