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August 7

Beta?

I can't find any information on the Beta accessibility release on WP itself. There's lots of external links, but there's nothing linking to an internal resource. Can anyone provide me with a link?PerfectProposal 01:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Interestingly, there should be information on the usability wiki, but I haven't been able to find anything either, other than the fact that the "beta" isn't really much of a beta as the real usability-initiative-beta-wiki is on a whole different wiki. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 02:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Other than this page on the usability wiki, which doesn't say much at all. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 02:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I like the Beta version but the gadgets don't work • S • C • A • R • C • E • 02:28, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

There's a perfectly good link to leave feedback on the beta, you know. Algebraist 02:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I left feedback after ending my session • S • C • A • R • C • E • 04:00, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Question: After selecting Beta, the text on my screen is extremely small, borderline with useless. How can I enlarge the font size to a reasonable size? Thanks, BatteryIncluded (talk) 01:32, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Alternate accounts

If an alternate account is created how it legitimized and not considered a sock? • S • C • A • R • C • E • 03:57, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

The difference between an alternate account and a sock is that 1) An alternate account is declared as one, and 2) is not used for nefarious purposes. There's no special legitimization process. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 04:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Sock puppetry#Alternative accounts. It's not required to publish the connection between the accounts. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you create another account while logged in, if so, how? • S • C • A • R • C • E • 04:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Ask and ye shall find. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 04:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you • S • C • A • R • C • E • 04:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

mediawiki markup?

If you wanted to include a short bit of code in an article, say in whitespace preserved, monospace with a horizontal scrollbar, and with a show/hide button (default hidden), what would the mediawiki markup for this be? Thanks in advance, 173.79.73.189 (talk) 04:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Try

{| class="wikitable collapsible collapsed"
!Code
|-
| <syntaxhighlight lang="text">
code here (specify language in "lang" attribute)
</syntaxhighlight>
|}

which gives

Code
code here (specify language in "lang" attribute)

Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 05:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I just need help regarding adding the references tag to my article

I've just about fixed up my article except for this one, red warning:

Cite error: "There are ref tags on this page, but the references will not show without a references tag"

I need help knowing where to put this 'reference tag' so the above Cite error disappears. Can someone give me a detailed explanation of where it goes? I can't seem to figure it out. Thanks. Timemachine1967 (talk) 09:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

To add an inline citation, you have to use this format: <ref>source here</ref> and add {{References}} under a section named "References". Of course, it would be best if you could follow an accepted standard. Easiest way is to use citation templates like Template:Cite web, Template:Cite news. See WP:CITE for more info. Hope this helps. ≈ Chamal ^talk 09:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I got it. Thanks. Timemachine1967 (talk) 05:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Infobox

How can you make an infobox? I am trying to, but it doesn't turn up, so I use tables. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cam486 (talk • contribs) 09:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Cam486 - What is the subject of the infobox you want to make? If it is for a tv channel, as you seem to be doing at TV3 plus1, I would suggest you use {{Infobox TV channel}}. Copy and paste the template from the "Usage" section of that page to the article you want to add it to, and fill in the information. You can delete any lines you don't need, but you won't be able to add new lines of other names. I would suggest starting the article in your sandbox, such as User:Cam486/TV3 plus 1 to give you breathing room to work on it before moving it to the main article section.

If you're looking for a different infobox, or you want to create a new kind of infobox, you can give us some more information here, and I'm sure someone will be able to help you. Thanks! --Kateshortforbob 09:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Just need someone to look at my article and tell me where to put the 'references tag', or what else I should do. Thank you.

I just need help regarding adding the references tag to my article.

I've just about fixed up my article except for this one, red warning:

Cite error: "There are ref tags on this page, but the references will not show without a references tag"

I need help knowing where to put this 'reference tag' so the above Cite error disappears. Can someone give me a detailed explanation of where it goes? I can't seem to figure it out. Thanks. Timemachine1967 (talk) 09:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

To add an inline citation, you have to use this format: <ref>source here</ref> and add {{References}} under a section named "References". Of course, it would be best if you could follow an accepted standard. Easiest way is to use citation templates like Template:Cite web, Template:Cite news. See WP:CITE for more info. Hope this helps. ≈ Chamal ^talk 09:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

With all do respect, this is still confusing for me. It asks me to add a reference tag and I'm good to go, but no matter where I add it, I still get the red warning. If you go to my article, can you tell me where and what to put on it so it'll be perfect? Much appreciated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Jennings Timemachine1967 (talk) 09:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it for you. :) Theleftorium 09:57, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. It's looks good. But the 3rd link under References "Rogue Cinema" takes me to an uncompleted webpage that doesn't finish downloading. Check for yourself. I went to the same Rogue Cinema webpage outside of Wikipedia and it downloaded just fine. Can you look into that and fix the link so Rogue Cinema downloads all the way. Thanks. Timemachine1967 (talk) 10:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Timemachine1967 - I fiddled around a little with that link, and it appears to be working okay for me now. Would you mind checking to see if the problem has been fixed? It definitely did seem to be doing something a bit funny for a while. --Kateshortforbob 11:45, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I put the clean up templates and prod back in that Timemachine removed. Was that correct? The Rogue Cinema also works for me now. Cptnono (talk) 12:00, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Putting back clean up templates is all right if the issues are still there. However, you do not re-add a removed prod. Removal of a prod tag means the deletion is contested, so the next step is WP:AFD if you still think the article should be deleted. See WP:PROD. If you don't want to nominate the article at WP:AFD, contact Cameron Scott (talk · contribs) who originally placed the prod tag and ask for his opinion. ≈ Chamal ^talk 12:09, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the {{prod}} tag accordingly. ≈ Chamal ^talk 12:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

(oops, an edit conflict) Awww... I thought I got to it first. Sorry about that. I am not too familiar with the prod template and thought it might still be needed. I'll shoot a quick message over to the other editor to see if it meets the requested requirements. It looks like the clean up templates are still valid for now.Cptnono (talk) 12:15, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

All issues have been solved. Thanks. Timemachine1967 (talk) 05:38, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Lists and images

Resolved

 – Cptnono (talk) 22:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I can't seem to find it in the image MOS. If a list is used instead of prose, Is it OK (or better than OK) to have a list on the left with an image on the right in a section?Cptnono (talk) 12:45, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes. The focus is on the content, the image enhances the content. You can use templates like {{mem}} to do this. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

This is commonly seen in featured lists, and is one of the easiest and best ways to add images to a list type article. See, for example, List of United States Military Academy alumni (astronauts), which also uses the mem template. ≈ Chamal ^talk 13:15, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I have run across a few articles where most of the content is in paragraphs but a subsection will be a bulleted list. Assuming the list is necessary, would the same apply?

As long as the images are relevant to that section and not excessive (otherwise they would lengthen the section and create a lot of empty space), that would be all right I think. ≈ Chamal ^talk 13:38, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

File in English link for other languages

If I have a subject in English, and I want someone in another language to read it in their language, if I send them the link, how do they convert? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Winderer (talk • contribs) 13:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

If it's a Wikipedia article, there is a box on the left-hand side of the page that says "in other languages". Click on the language and send the resulting article to the other person. For a normal (non-Wikipedia) web page, plug-in the address to something like Google Translate and send off the resulting page. Xenon54 (talk) 13:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

However, note that articles in other languages do not always have all of the same content. hmwitht 14:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Random using #expr:

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 15:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Using the parser {{#expr:}}, is there anyway to output a random result? Thanks in advance. Erwin Springer [talk] 14:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

{{Rand}} illustrates one method. Algebraist 14:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, that will work. Erwin Springer [talk] 15:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Automating a list

I want to create a wikipedia list, from content that is constantly being updated on a website elsewhere (~weekly). I also have access to the database that content is based on. Is there a way of automating the process, so it does not need to be manually entered every time? There is also a few hundred entries already there, which would be great if it didn't need to be entered by hand. Would both of these tasks be ideal for a bot? Please point me in the right direction. Thanks. Sahmejil (talk) 15:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

They sound very much like the sort of thing bots are used for. Check out our bot policy and the guide to creating bots to find out how to get started. It may be possible, alternatively, to copy over the existing content without a bot, depending how adept you are with wikimarkup. What's the website? Gonzonoir (talk) 15:44, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Its a list of past and present players that represented South Africa in rugby union. Info from here: [1] to be incorporated to here. (specific headings still not final) There's a whole bunch of info that is never going to change, but there's also info that changes almost weekly (new games played, points scored etc). Would be great if the list could update itself. Suggestions? Sahmejil (talk) 16:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Remember that if that website is not a reliable source by our standards, such updating would not be permissible, as the unpdates would not be deemed verifiable. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Beta?

Theres a new option of beta on the top scroll list. What is it really for?., is it any different from the regular browser, and does it have a spell check as it seemilngly looks like it does? thanks a bunch, any pointers to what it is would be great Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:25, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

See WP:VECTOR. hmwitht 15:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

For information about the usability initiative and future releases, see http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page. hmwitht 15:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Sub page

I am a relatively new user and have created a Sub Page with information on Cambridge House, a multi-purpose voluntary organisation, with the intention of linking it to a page on the settlement movement. How do I get it onto the site? If I do this will it be deleted, as I am a new user?

Also,there is already an entry for Cambridge House (difference building). Do I need to distinguish between the two? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkannas (talk • contribs) 16:13, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Firstly, I am going to move (rename) your user page article to Cambridge House (organisation). Then I'm going to have a quick look at it, and get back with my thoughts... be back soon! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, the article is at User:Nkannas/Cambridge House (organisation), along with a "for the mansion in London see.." link at the top of the page. As a stub for an article, it looks good - but I've only had a very quick look at it - could someone else have a look at it and comment? I've got to go out, so don't have time now. If no one's done anything about it when I next go online (not sure when that will be - the kids can be a handful!) I'll look at it again! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

It needs more references to support notability. – ukexpat (talk) 17:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

editing articles

Hi, I was looking to edit some of the articles about various Transformers, by adding pictures of the figures as well as giving more descriptions to them, but the articles said they are semi-protected. When I looked up to see what that meant, it said my user name wasn't verified, or something of that nature.. how do I get my user name verified? Thank you <blanked> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smokescreen 5 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

It means that your account has not been autoconfirmed (active for four days and made at least ten edits). Once you reach those thresholds, you'll be able to edit semi protected articles. TNXMan 18:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Edit some unprotected articles and wait for a few days. A 4 days old account with at least 10 edits automatically gets the autoconfirmed permission.

I recall there was some discussion about "confirmed" userright to be made grantable by administrators, not sure if it was ever implemented. --59.95.115.115 (talk) 18:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I see that you are planning to add pictures. Please be aware that Wikipedia has strict rules about the use of images. You can read more here: WP:FILE--SPhilbrickT 19:15, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

3rd link under references is wrong URL and has to be changed, Reflist needes to be unlocked for future updates

Under the newly created 'Jay Jennings' article, the 3rd link under references is the wrong URL and has to be changed. I clicked on edit and noticed that the reflist has been locked. In case of further additions that I may need to add to this list down the road, and as the original editor who started this article, I find this to be unfair and pompous by the Wikipedia community to 'lock out' the original editor who started the article in the first place. Can someone please remove this lock? Once again, I need to change the 3rd URL under References to: http://www.roguecinema.com/article329.html. The name of the link (Jay Jennings Talks About His Films) is OK, but the link itself must be changed. Thank you. Timemachine1967 (talk) 18:47, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Timemachine1967, the refeences section isn't locked, but to change a reference you need to edit the part of the article where the reference is used, rather than the references section. I have made the change you suggested, and if you click on this link [2], you'll get a screen displaying exactly what I did to make the change. Hope this helps. DuncanHill (talk) 18:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

To understand the footnotes system, please read Wikipedia:Footnotes. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 18:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Timemachine1967 (talk) 05:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Translate the new Vector stylesheet

I'm an admin on the Icelandic wikipedia, currently trying out the Beta version (Vector template). However when I switch to it many of the "buttons" switch into English (for example all the tabs above). As this will become the default in not too distant future I need to translate the template for ALL users for Icelandic (not my personal vector.css). It's been years since I translated any sitewide template stuff and after digging through Meta and EN I've not seen any mention of where this can be done. Any tips? --Stalfur (talk) 19:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

how to create line drawings

How can I create simple line drawings for a wiki article, such as File:Baops.gif? Jfishburn (talk) 19:39, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

That image was probably done with a diagramming software; there are many vector editors that include symbols. I use SmartDraw. You can do simple charts with {{chart}}, but not like the image in question. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

How do you create a wiki page?

I would like to create a wiki page for my favorite online radio show and station? How do i do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.212.173.4 (talk) 20:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. – ukexpat (talk) 20:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Writing an article for Wikipedia is harder than many people realize. Over 99% of all articles submitted by someone with no other editing experience in Wikipedia are deleted. Even professional writers find that the format and style needed for a good encyclopedia article are different than what might be appropriate for other venues.

If your only goal is to make sure that an article is added to Wikipedia, you are urged to visit WP:RA where you can request that someone write an article on the subject.

If you are interested in becoming an editor at Wikipedia, our experience demonstrates that it is better to start by improving existing articles, which will help you get a sense of how this place works, and then writing your first article from scratch. A good place to visit is WP:BL, where there are literally hundreds of thousands of articles needing help from editors. Find an article in a subject area you know, and add a source, or a reference, or simply help write it better.

If you do decide to write an article immediately, please read WP:COI, to help make sure you don't have a Conflict of Interest, then read WP:FIRST, which will repeat some of the good advice above, then tell you how to start writing your first article. Make sure you start it in a User Subpage. You can edit to your heart's content in a sandbox, and no one will interfere, but as soon as it is in the main Wikipedia space, anyone can edit it, and anyone can propose it for deletion.--SPhilbrickT 20:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Infobox for Russian submarine K-496 Borisoglebsk

I need someone to help me figure out why this is all skrewed up thanks --Tim1357 (talk) 21:38, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Partially fixed. You entered [[Russia}} which messed thing up.--SPhilbrickT 21:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Adding a quote box for a written letter for the Kurt Wintgens Wikipedia article

Dear Fellow Wikipedians:

The PIPE Here...in addition to my existing question at the Heinkel He 277 discussion page, asking about bringing into Wikipedia, a scanned copy (with ONLY the original Heinkel factory-created content in it) of an original Heinkel factory "typenblatt" general arrangement drawing of the He 277 from my main reference book, authored by Manfred Griehl and Joachim Dressel, on the entire He 177 family of Heinkel-built WW II heavy bomber aircraft, I've been wanting to add to the page on Kurt Wintgens, the very first fighter pilot in aviation history to have ever downed an opposing aircraft with a synchronized machine gun, the text of a letter written by Leutnant Wintgens himself to a friend named "Karl", describing that pioneering aerial engagement in his own words, on the day (July 2 1915) following the engagement. The text of the letter is sourced from the very last issue of the "Cross & Cockade USA" WW I aviation enthusiast quarterly journal, published one summer in the mid-1980s.

After I had a software-induced hard disk crash just before Halloween of 2008, which I've only recovered from within the last month's worth of time, I thought I had lost the text of the letter...thankfully, the removal of the troublesome GoBack recovery software from my hard disks allowed me to regain access to the transcription of the Wintgens "victory letter", and I'd really like to get that letter's text placed in a quote box, complete with the usual "justification" (left just/center just/right just/etc.) that would give it the "general" look of the letter's text as depicted in the C&C USA English translation (the original letter that Leutnant Wintgens wrote on July 2 1915 describing the combat's events was, of course, entirely in German).

I have NOT yet found, anywhere in Wikipedia's help pages, anything that could help me format a quote box to have left/center/right "justification" of text in any manner...is such text "locational justification" possible in a quote box, and IF it is, just how do I go about doing it???

Hope to get an answer soon for this challenge in adding to the documentation on the very first aerial victory with a synchronized MG...

The PIPE (talk) 22:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

It's possible by using various wikicode methods - this is an example of a very very very primitive way to do it:

Some guy
Some street
Somewhere

Date

Guy I'm sending the letter to
Where he is

To Mr Man,

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

Yours sincerely
My name

– Someguy, Letter to someone

I would suggest you look at other means of doing this tho, including uploading the source and translated text to WikiSource and then quoting small bits if necessary, I don't know what kind of impact putting hacky code like this into an article would have. Nanonic (talk) 23:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

You can use {{quote box2}} for the main part. I doubt you need the sender and recipient.

Nanonic— break tags are properly <br />. HTML Tidy will fix it, but we should do it properly if the text is reused on a wiki that does not use HTML Tidy.

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 00:11, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

infobox footnote problem

Resolved

 – problem at my end. Never mind. --Jayron32 23:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

See First Coalition. The footnotes in the infobox are numbered, but should be lettered. It looks like the html coding is supposed to be autolettering the list, but it is not working. Could someone look at this and see what is wrong. --Jayron32 23:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

They are lettered for me in both Firefox 3.0 and IE8. Which browser are you using? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Not sure. This is not my usual computer. It must be a problem at my end. Never mind. Carry on. --Jayron32 23:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I see it— never saw this done here before. Whoever did this is using a HTML list. The inline cite is inserted using <sup>[f]</sup>. The reference list is styled as an ordered list with <ol style="list-style-type:lower-latin"> which makes the <li>...</li> use letter instead of numbers. You could update it to use <ref>...</ref> with the group parameter. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 00:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

August 8

Which template should I use related to Wikipedia:NOT_PAPERS

I'm browsing scientific articles, and some of them are way too complicated, but I don't have enough time to copy edit them all, which template should I use to enforce edition on complicated to read articles? Eduemoni^↑talk↓ 02:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Didn't Know You Could Do That

I write about the US Department of Justice sending worms into control the WIKI pages of people they have indicted -- and what happens ? Someone totally edited the page into something else to destroy all trace of it.

Didn't know you could do that !

I.J. Grimm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.103.28.57 (talk) 00:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

"If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it" • S • C • A • R • C • E • 02:59, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Your original posts were deleted because you didn't indicate what reliable source the information was originally published in. All information in Wikipedia must have been previously published elsewhere. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a blog. —teb728 t c 03:26, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Teb728 tc -- Wikipedia guidelines allows for the publication of relevant, verifiable first hand information in addition to information published elsewhere (and which can so be cited), but that is not even the issue here.

There was no attempt made here by anyone to request me to furnish citations for my additions -- every word I added to Mr. Blagojevich’s article and to this help forum has been summarily deleted without recourse or discussion.

Had I been politely asked to cite the sources which I neglected to add, I would have cited the US Department of Justice’s own files on me which are available to the public under the Freedom of Information Act -- so yes this stuff is “published” by a respected authority and it is in the public domain by law for anyone interested in performing the steps necessary to fetch it.

[removed rant unrelated to questions of how to use and edit Wikipedia] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.103.28.57 (talk) 13:14, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

This is the Wikipedia help desk. We try to answer questions about USING and EDITING Wikipedia. Your questions relate to the content of Wikipedia. To add content that will remain and not be removed, you must follow our rules. I suggest you start by reading them, and then come back and try again. Start with the "five pillars." Then read verifility and reliable sources. Now, if you do not like our rules, you can help us change them by entering into the discussions on the variuos discussion pages. This help desk is not the correct forum for that. Please do not get discouraged by all of this: Once you understand and follow our rules, your contributions are likely to be preserved. -Arch dude (talk) 17:11, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

As for your posts in the article, you were “politely asked to cite the sources”: This revert said, “Rollback … uncited material … Feel free to replace it after citing”. This revert said, “revert unsourced speculation”. In addition to any information that might be supported by Department of Justice files, your posts contained highly speculative interpretations of the relevance of that information. To be included in an article such interpretations would have to be backed up by analysis in a reliable source like the Star Tribune or Chicago Tribune. As for your posts on this Help desk: As Arch dude says above, the help desk is for questions about using and editing Wikipedia. The Help desk is no more a blog than an article. That is why your rants were removed from the Help desk. —teb728 t c 21:32, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I'd love to see a reliable source to prove just what another person believes. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 20:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The Beta. Will it replace the old version?

Resolved

I noticed that Wikipedia has put up a link to let users try the Beta. I tried it and I think it is nice, but I do not like it as much as I like the current version. My question is: Is the Beta going to replace the old version in a way that it is going to be not only the default version but the only version, or are users going to be allowed to use both versions? --96.232.52.43 (talk) 01:24, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Nothing is "chiseled in stone" yet, but if it's decided that the beta will replace the current version then it (along with the Vector skin) will likely be the default for all users. I assume registered users would have an option to change back to the older version. Xenon54 (talk) 02:03, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Beverages in Kerala

when bevrages is started in kerala ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.206.37.112 (talk) 02:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. • S • C • A • R • C • E • 03:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Auto title for sectiosns and auto signature

Resolved

 – ≈ Chamal ^talk 09:26, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

• I'm not sure whether or not there is a way to make a daily headline for the sections of the article as in this article (Questions). I can see this Help desk and other inquiry pages archiving each page and also adding the daily headline (e.g. August 1, August 2, ...) and would like to do the same in the Arabic Wikipedia but don't know if I've to do it manually or there is a script/code.
• On the other hand; how can I add the auto-signature for those who forget to post their --~~~~? We don't have this feature in the Arabic Wikipedia too. Thanks in advance.--Email4mobile (talk) 04:07, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

All three of the functions you describe are performed by bots (automated processes) - archiving is done by ClueBot III, run by User:Cobi; date sections by Scsbot, run by User:Ummit; and auto-signing by SineBot, run by User:Slakr. If you want those bots to run on the Arabic Wikipedia, you'll have to ask each of the operators. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 04:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Calvin 1998.--Email4mobile (talk) 09:25, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Asking here

Can I use this Wikipedia help desk as the help desks for other wiki projects such as Wiktionary?--Mikespedia (talk) 04:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Generally it is best to ask at the relevant wiki, for example, wikt:Wiktionary:Information desk for Wiktionary. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 04:55, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Board of Trustees election

I have received an e-mail stating that I am "eligible to vote in the 2009 elections for the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, which operates projects such as Wikipedia. The Board of Trustees is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long term sustainability of the Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection." However, I click on the link in the email and it tells me I am ineligible to vote. How do I resolve this? Where do I go? --Blue387 (talk) 05:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I didn't click on the link in the email, because I had already voted - I wonder if it was a bad link. Have you tried the link at the top of this page? (which doesn't work in the secure server, by the way).--SPhilbrickT 14:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Or go directly to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll. Xenon54 (talk) 15:33, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

daewoo cars

what year did they stop making daewoo cars for australia thankyou bill —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.174.221 (talk) 09:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. ≈ Chamal ^talk 09:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Profunda artery

whats another name for the profunda artery —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.27.165.112 (talk) 10:52, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

This page is for help on using Wikiepdia. However, you can ask at the science reference desk, or maybe you'll find what you're looking for in the Profunda brachii or Profunda femoris artery articles. ≈ Chamal ^talk 11:03, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Question about PStricks

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello! In the article about PStricks there examples and result images. Could you tell me what software is used to get from tex or dvi file with pstricks png image? Thank you. Sincerely, Andrei. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.85.28.173 (talk) 10:53, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

If I get this correctly it's a question about the software used to create the images, right? The original uploader was Drini (talk · contribs). You can ask him at his talk page. ≈ Chamal ^talk 10:56, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Andrei. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.85.28.173 (talk) 11:12, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Orphan pages with regards to redirects

Do pages which link to redirects count towards the minimum three pages linking to an article for it not to be classified as an orphan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Watercleave (talk • contribs) 11:33, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

You'd get a better answer if you specified the case you have in mind, but in general I'd say that yes, they do. If there are a lot of links to a redirect, it may be that the article is misnamed and should be at the redirect page's title; if that isn't the problem (if, for example, the redirect is at an incorrect capitalization), you might consider going to the links themselves and revising them to point to the article rather than the redirect. You might also consider adding links in related articles per WP:Orphan#Suggestions for how to de-orphan an article. Deor (talk) 12:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Addendum: Looking at your contributions, I see that you may be referring to Baby Jesus theft. In that case the redirects don't count because no articles link to them. I count only two articles with direct or indirect links to that one. Deor (talk) 12:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I did indeed think of this question because of Baby Jesus theft, but I was asking the question in reference to all articles. Watercleave (talk) 07:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Contradicting informations between en and cs Wikipedia

What can be done when English and Czech Wikipedia contains contradicting informations and nobody listens. The English Wikipedia states that homosexuality was remeved from the lists of disorders on the ground of recognizing the scientific evidence. This fact supported by the most reliable sources available to the topic. The Czech Wikipedia states that homosexuality was removed solely because of the political reasons. This statement is supported by one unfounded opinion of the author of scripts. Yes, you read right! It is absurd, isn't it? I believe this is a serious problem, but nobody has listened for several months and the article is blocked to prevent correct that. Nothing can be done. The Wikipedia policies about reliable sources and exceptional claims have been ignored there for many months. Is there any chance to set right propaganda of ultraconservative editors and inactive admins there? I believe CS Wikipedia should present facts in similar fashion as the EN Wikipedia, since it is not Conservapedia. Moreover, the Czech Wikipedia editors violates undue weight and reliable sources policies by presenting fringe sources even if those was explicitly prohibited to use in the English Wikipedia. These issues hurt Wikipedia project. Who is responsible and who failed here? --Destinero (talk) 11:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

There is nothing we (the English Wikipedia) can do about the issues at the Czech Wikipedia. Their issues must be solved there, and out issues must be solved here. Why don't you provide reliable sources to support this fact and discuss this problem at the relevant article's talk page in Czech Wikipedia? That's how we work here and I'd assume things are the same there as well. ≈ Chamal ^talk 13:07, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The exactly same thing I've been doing for almost half year. Believe or not, nothing happened. I suppose there is a way how to control that unwanted behavior. Wikimedia Foundation, Jimbo Wales or someone should clearly state that these issues should be handled as we both here suggested. But this is absurd situation, since it have not worked so far. :( There must be someone responsible for this. --Destinero (talk) 14:17, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Here on the English WP, we have a dispute resolution process. This process clearly states that disputes will be handled as suggested above. Since your problem is on the Chech WP, you must use the equivalent Chech process if it exists. (I think the policy is at cz:Wikipedie:Řešení konfliktů, but I do not know for sure if that is the Chech WP since my language skills are horrible.) If such a process does not exist, you must start by bringing such a process into existance. In general, at least here on the English WP, those who are "responsible" are the editors, acting to via a process to form a consensus. We have about 750,000 active editors. When consensus fails or process is violated, we turn to administrators (of which there are less than 2000.) Administrators enforce process, they do not themselves resolve disputes. The (very, very few) paid employees of the Wikimedia foundation do not intervene unless a legal matter arises. Your attempt to work outside of the Chech enclycopedia is likely to cause you a lot more problems than it will solve. I strongly reccomend that you stay within the Chech WP for this, since posting anywhere on the english WP cannot help you and may hurt you. Please do come on over here to the english WP if you see something that we should fix in the english WP. -Arch dude (talk) 16:12, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Autoconfirmation

Hi, will I be notified when my account is autoconfirmed? --bessmorris 13:03, 8 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bessmorris (talk • contribs)

No, you won't. Autoconfirmation is something that happens automatically when you have made 10 edits and your account is 4 days old. ≈ Chamal ^talk 13:10, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No, but it already is (unless you are editing through a Tor network). See Wikipedia:User access levels#Autoconfirmed users. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:13, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

This is odd... Bessmorris should be autoconfirmed by now unless he's using a Tor network, but his edit count shows up as 7! ≈ Chamal ^talk 13:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

That is a bit odd. I think I saw someone mention... somewhere... a lag on a toolserver edit counter. Maybe that's causing the difference? It appears to be counting Bessmorris's 7 edits on 27/28 July, but not the more recent ones. --Kateshortforbob 13:22, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

BryanBot (see {{toolserver}}) claims there's a 66 hour lag on the s1 toolserver, which should affect the toolserver but not autoconfirmation (as that is based on the data from the actual servers, on which there is usually negligible lag). Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 16:59, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Beta discussion?

Hi, is there some place where people are actively discussing the Beta, or is this the only page for that? (Cause so far the discussion doesn't seem too profound...) Please don't tell me the only way to address your opinions about the Beta is the feedback form, because that would be somehow sad IMO. Kreachure (talk) 15:40, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, yes, the feedback page is the way to "provide feedback" about it. There is no discussion about it here AFAIK. With the feedback page, users can report any problems to the developers directly. Having a discussion would be pretty much pointless for this; it would just be a load of comments saying "hey this feature would be good, this should be removed" and a lot of comments following that about why that's a good idea or why it's not. Not very helpful for someone developing the software to judge what are the problems with it and what should be fixed. With the feedback page, they can identify what are the problems affecting most of the users and what would be beneficial for the majority. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 15:56, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Usability wiki, and of course the Village pumps are always appropriate venues for any type of discussion (though that will focus more no the English Wikipedia, and less on mediawiki software in general). —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 17:14, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Um maybe, but the thing is that many of the questions on the feedback form are about what users liked and disliked about the Beta, meaning that they're looking for opinions about the Beta, not just problems to be fixed. I thought that there would be a page somewhere where you could discuss these opinions with others, and in fact I was also expecting a page explaining the nature and purpose of the Beta on Wikipedia itself without so much technical babble. But okay... Kreachure (talk) 19:06, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Date range style in infoboxes

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Other date ranges specifically states that "The form since 1996 should be used in favor of 1996–present in article text and infoboxes.", although earlier in the same paragraph it is stated that "the form 1996– (with no date after the en-dash)... is preferred in infoboxes". In addition to this, Template:Infobox Musical artist#Years_active uses the example of "1993–2004, 2005–present", strongly suggesting that the "–present" form should be used (as indeed it is in most if not all musical artist articles I have seen). So which is correct, and should these project pages not be made clearer in order to avoid this confusion? U-Mos (talk) 17:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Probably best to ask this on the template talk page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:06, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, will do. Wasn't sure the best place to ask this in all honesty. U-Mos (talk) 17:08, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Template talk:Infobox Musical artist#Date range style in infoboxes. U-Mos (talk) 17:13, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

LOST CARD

HOW DO I REPORT A LOST IDENTIFICATION CARD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.129.90.60 (talk) 22:18, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia, and so there isn't really much we can do. Try contacting the organisation that issued it to you. Xenon54 (talk) 22:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

(ec)Depends on the card. If it's a drivers license, probably your state's department of transportation or department of safety. If it's a company-issued card, obviously you would need to call your company. Can you be more specific? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 22:22, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

You can report lost or/and apply to re-issue to its issuer. IDENTIFICATION CARD is usually issued by government, yu can report lost or apply for re-issue at house registratin office in the country you reside or citizenship. I hope this can help you. Bus88MRT (talk) 23:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Page creation

Dear Sirs

I would like to create a Wikipedia article providing information on a well known Italian fashion company called Scuderi.

I have an account but when I search for Scuderi, which does not currently have a page, I am not given the option to create a new article.

Scuderi is one of the oldest and largest mens tailoring companies in Italy, having been founded in 1954 and now producing more than 60000 sartorial garments per year from its factory in Rome.

Other similar companies for which there are already Wiki pages include Canali, Zegna, Corneliani, Brioni, Kiton.

I look forward to receiving your advice.

Many thanks

Tim Horsley

Timhorsley (talk) 22:30, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

There is already a page called Scuderi which is why you don't get an option to create a page by that name. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation for how to handle it. An article about the company could for example be called "Scuderi (company)". But you appear to be connected to the company. See Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

No visible images

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I'm not sure if this is the proper place for this and if not, please redirect me to it!

Using Firefox 3.5.2 on Windows XP, Somehow, all images, pictures, drawings, etc., will not show up. When I right click and select properties, it does not show the image that is supposed to be there. After looking in the editing page to make sure there really WAS an image there, I checked my Ad-Block Plus filter to see if I had blocked it accidentally - I didn't.

Wikipedia.org is the only site that is affected by this mysterious curse! Right before this happened, I was playing with the colors of links in the options of Firefox and it seems that after that, all images were lost.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox twice and have accessed Wikipedia via Internet Explorer with good results, as well as using Firefox on another computer also with good results. Is there something I'm missing? is there some parameter that needs to be reset? Is this even a Wikipedia issue?

Thank you! Timmay911 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timmay911 (talk • contribs) 23:42, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried accessing Wikipedia on Firefox without logging on? If you can see the pictures without logging on, but they disappear when you are logged on, then perhaps there is some sort of custom CSS or JS going on. Tiggerjay (talk) 23:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe Load Images for the originating website only is enabled (not sure whether it's called that in Firefox 3.5.2). If so then either disable it (this may cause unwanted images at some other sites) or add http://upload.wikimedia.org to a list of allowed sites. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:03, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

AH-HA! I found it! Turns out that upload.wiki.com was blocked within my Firefox (Thank You PrimeHunter!!), but I still have no idea what I did :)! thanks guys!

I guess you mean upload.wikimedia.org. In Firefox it's easy to accidentally block images by right clicking an image and then clicking the wrong option. But I didn't think that setting would be kept after reinstalling Firefox. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:44, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

August 9

Checkusers

I have just been reading about checkusers, Seems quite scary to me. Do these checkusers need to sign a contract or are they allowed or can they ramdomly check peoples IP adress's at their discression, and how long do they keep the IPs before they are deleted from their records. How can the Wikipedia community be sure that these people are going to use the checkuser tool responsively.--Zthatin (talk) 03:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

The answers to all your questions can be found here. Access to checkuser is only granted rarely and the user must identify themselves to the Wikimedia Foundation. TNXMan 03:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Great question, as you can find on the policy page, this may interest you: "On any wiki, there must be at least two users with CheckUser status, or none at all. This is so that they can mutually control and confirm their actions. In the case where only one CheckUser is left on a wiki (when the only other one retires, or is removed), the community must appoint a new CheckUser immediately (so that the number of CheckUsers is at least two)." Tiggerjay (talk) 03:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Does that mean that no single checkuser can reveal somebodys IP.--Zthatin (talk) 03:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Technically, yes, any particular checkuser could reveal somebody's IP. However, as the checkuser page (Wikipedia:Checkusers) explains, we trust them not to, and they don't. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 03:33, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

If you're that scared of anyone finding out your IP address, you really shouldn't be on the internet. Whenever you access a website the people running the website get your IP. Algebraist 03:41, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

@Algebraist, That is not technically true. It depend if they host their own servers or not.--Zthatin (talk) 03:46, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually technically yes, that information is available, it just depends on if the person/webmaster knows how to access that information. Also just as a reminder, it is disclosed to you when you created your account on wikipedia that your IP information is recorder and is available to a restricted number of people.

Yeah well I just can't trust anyone that sits on Wikipedia all day. I mean what would a persons personallity have to be to sit on a website all day everyday without even getting paid for it.--Zthatin (talk) 04:05, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

In that case, you're free to leave at any time. --Jayron32 18:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Helpful? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

How come users delete pages I edit?

My page was deleted because of code Template:Dg-7. How come?! If this keeps on happening I will delete my user! No offence to be rude.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cam486 (talk • contribs)

Blanking a page that you created yourself is seen as a request for deletion. Don't blank pages, and they will not be tagged with {{db-blanked}}.—SpaceFlight89 03:45, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

As SpaceFlight89 says, blanking a page is seen as an invitation to delete it. I tagged TV3 plus 1 (New Zealand) with {{hold on}}, but that won't save the page for long: An article with little or no content is eligible for speedy deletion. If you you want time to work on a page, you should develop it in a personal sandbox, like User:Cam486/TV3 plus 1. —teb728 t c 05:07, 9 August 2009 (UTC) I changed it to a redirect to TV3 (New Zealand), which discusses "plus 1". That way it won't get deleted, and if sometime you want to expand the plus 1 article, you can re-convert the redirect to an article. —teb728 t c 06:46, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Having problem creating an unified login

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I have an account (zh:User:Patricka) at zh.wikipedia.org, and when I'm trying to create a global account I found that somebody has been using the same username here. He has no contributions. What should I do then? I have read Unified login and Help:Logging in but still don't know what to do exactly.--222.216.68.125 (talk) 06:30, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

See WP:USURP. --59.95.100.211 (talk) 06:36, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

More specifically, for your problem see Wikipedia:Changing username/SUL#Partial usurpation. Deor (talk) 12:11, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

It has been solved. Thank you! --222.216.66.143 (talk) 11:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Calulation of Wikipedia Depth

Hi All, I want to say that don't you people (wiki management team and members too) think that there is some fundamental flaw in calculation of "Depth" because Depth according to wiki standards is wikipedia quality means it doesn't refer to academic quality but wiki quality. And higher the Depth, better is wiki standard. But then there are many small and mid-sized wikis (1000-100,000 articles) whose Depths is way ahead of German, French, Russian, Japanese etc. wikipedias. It means that their wiki standard is better than that of these major wikis. It means these wikis provide more information then the aforementioned large wikis which is obviously not true. (They don't even provide more information on topics on which articles are available on them) And not only this there is restriction on smaller wikis (<100,000 articles) to have their Depths below 300. Then why this restriction? So don't you see any basic flaw in calculating Depth? May be the formula should be different so that automatically when you calculate Depth it should come out to be below 300 for smaller wikis and obviously how can a wiki with 100+ or 1,000+ articles be more informative than a wiki with fewer than a million articles. Thanks 59.177.72.238 (talk) 12:05, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Academic quality of Wikipedia languages cannot be measured by computer generated statistics. I don't know any method which could give a reasonable quality rating without a large number of qualified multilingual people comparing a lot of articles. I'm guessing most people don't care about the depth listed at meta:List of Wikipedias. It's also to the far right and would require scrolling for many readers. There are some old discussions about depth at meta:Talk:List of Wikipedias/Archive 4. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:19, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I think you've misunderstood the sense in which depth is used here. As it says at the top of the page PrimeHunter cited

The "Depth" column ((Edits/Articles) × (Non-Articles/Articles) × (Stub-ratio)) is a rough indicator of a Wikipedia’s quality, showing how frequently its articles are updated. It does not refer to academic quality, which cannot be computed, but to Wikipedian quality, i.e. the depth of collaborativeness—a descriptor that is highly relevant for a Wikipedia. Depths above 300 for Wikipedias below 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. (Emphasis added)

You might find meta:Wikipedia good articles more to your taste. --AndrewHowse (talk) 02:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks a lot to all. 59.177.74.189 (talk) 09:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

flipflop article with redirect?

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The article name Phillipine Porcupine is mispelled, however the correct spelling Philippine Porcupine is a redirect to it. It is spelled correctly in the first line of the article. While I can do a move for Phillipine Porcupine, the fact that the redirect is there prevents the move. Is there any way that I as a non-administrator (but experienced user) can do the flip flop between the article and its redirect and if not, could an administrator do the flip-flop?Naraht (talk) 12:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

You need administrator help because the redirect has to be deleted before the page can be moved there. Go to Wikipedia:Requested moves and follow the directions in the "Uncontroversial requests" section. Xenon54 (talk) 13:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:19, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanx.Naraht (talk) 00:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Black Country

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hi all not finding it easy to find the answer to my querry so best i ask

in the reference section of the black county i place a link to a no profit or no advertising page this is called black country connection. it consists of a project to link all the common name of the black country together but for some reason this link keeps getting deleted there are a few links similar to language and general forum but they remain un touch so i was wondering what is the problem cheers peterjd —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterjd (talk • contribs) 18:50, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Ask the people who are deleting the link. They should be able to explain why they are doing so. --Jayron32 19:09, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

thankyou —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterjd (talk • contribs) 20:03, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

ive had a look and unable to work out who deleting it is there anyway i can stop this from happening as if it the same person who has done it in the past then i can only think its out of mallice —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterjd (talk • contribs) 20:30, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Looks like it happened here. Let's assume good faith until we know otherwise. Looks to me like someone trying to add a link, not doing a very good job, and maybe accidentally overwriting your link. Try adding it back again. It is gets removed again, we can probably assume it isn't an accident. --SPhilbrickT 20:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

(fixed link)--SPhilbrickT 12:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

ok thank you for you help —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterjd (talk • contribs) 21:44, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I see that it was removed again, but this time by an established editor with a reason. I suggest you contact the editor at McGeddon, where you can discuss why you feel the link is appropriate. --SPhilbrickT 11:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Dec. 19, 2006 Help Desk archive

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I continue to read the archives because some of the questions and answers are fascinating and I wouldn't encounter them anywhere else.

I have found missing archives before when there was more than one day under a particular day's heading.

I have fixed red links from when a new bot procedure didn't work right. But I think this one may be beyond my capability.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I think I did it.

I went back in the history (I sure am glad I noticed you could narrow by date) and then it didn't turn out to be as hard as I thought. I couldn't find the actual questions for a while, and I didn't know how to tell when the Help Desk got archived. I kept looking for a Bot in the history but I guess I just didn't look closely enough.

Assuming no one answered a question posted on Dec. 19 at a time after 06:59 on Dec. 21, we're in good shape.

I'd still appreciate someone checking this.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Checked with small fixes.[3] RefDeskBot missed archiving here. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:20, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not sure just how you knew what to do, but I'm relieved.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I looked at the history of surrounding archives to see who created them and when. It was RefDeskBot so I looked at contributions by that bot around that time: [4]. It didn't edit between December 21 and December 28. I have also archived the help desk manually several times before. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:40, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I checked that too. I'd better delete or edit what I said on the appropriate talk page now that it's fixed. Thanks again.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:46, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Moving article from user space to new article space

I have completed a new article in my user space but cannot figure out how to move this to the new article space. Can you help me do this?

--Bismarckboy 22:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)Bismarkboy August 9, 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bismarckboy (talk • contribs)

You can simply move it to the main space, when prompted for the new name, remove your username, so it simply reads the article name. Tiggerjay (talk) 23:45, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Your account is not autoconfirmed yet so you cannot move pages. Because you are the only contributor, you can copy-paste it to a new article without violating the license requirements for other contributors. See Wikipedia:Your first article#How to create a page. You can also make 3 more edits at which point you will be autoconfirmed and get a move tab at the top of pages. Don't use all caps in section headings. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Accidental redirect

I created another redirect that I didn't mean to create: Ryuji Sakachi. Can anyone please delete it? Please let me know when that has been taken care of. Thank you.Kitty53 (talk) 22:32, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Deleted. You could have tagged it with {{Db-author}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:44, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I had forgotten what to do to tag an accidental article for deletion, that's why. Thank you, PrimeHunter!Kitty53 (talk) 00:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

How do I verify information about myself that is on my wikipedia page?

Hello Wikipedia. Please forgive me if this question is somewhere on your site as a FAQ-I couldn't find it.

This question is about the Wikipedia page on Paul Hanson. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hanson

I didn't start a Wikipedia page about myself but I'm flattered by the attention. In recent months I have seen incorrect information-deleted it, and also I've added some biographical information to it. I realize now that it is not a good idea to do this yourself for your own page, as Wikipedia states it is not a good idea. However-I do know this information is true about myself. For example: I performed with Billy Higgins and Billy Childs in 1995 at Mad Hatter Recording studio in Los Angeles. The main artist was bassist Pat Senatore, the album was PASQUALE and it was released on Moo Records. I did perform with Wayne Shorter at the 2000 Monterey Jazz Festival-I was in the chamber orchestra alongside Wayne and his band John Pattituci, Brian Blade and Danilo Perez. I did perform with Dewey Redman and Bob Moses at Yoshi's in Oakland California in 1999 with guitarist Joel Harrison. I don't understand how I can verify this information for the Wikipedia page. Do I need for someone else to verify this information for me?

Thank you very much for your time-sincerely,

Paul Hanson Tokyo, JapanPaulbassoon (talk) 23:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for posting! You can find the information you are looking for at: Wikipedia:Verifiability Tiggerjay (talk) 23:44, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

You may also want to read Wikipedia:BLP#Self-published_sources, in particular the section about "Using the subject as a self-published source". If you operate a personal website, blog or similar, those can be used as a source to verify basic factual information about yourself, as long as the information meets WP:SELFPUB. There is also a lot of helpful information at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Help. Regards, decltype (talk) 23:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, Do not let WP:COI frighten you. Yes, we strongly reccommend against writhing about yourself, but you are certainly free to correct errors and add facts and references. Just stay away from adjectives and opinions, and you'll be OK. -96.255.161.148 (talk) 02:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

1000 year old equadorian artifact

My family has had these artifacts for many many years now im interested in knowing more about them , i heard they come from a tribe that lived in equador more then 1000 years ago . Can someone please point me in the direction of were can i learn more or possibly sell them in the future . thank you lydia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.47.23 (talk) 23:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe History of Ecuador has information about the tribe. Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

August 10

Can You Insert Text From One Wikipedia Article Into Another?

How does this work. Say there is an article X, and a section of it is relevant in article Y. Are you allowed to add the related text in article X and inserted into article Y within wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Sports Fan (talk • contribs) 03:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The short answer is yes, provided you state in the edit summary that the text you're inserting is being copied from another article (and which article it's being copied from). The longer answer is that whether you should do so depends on circumstances. Generally, if there's an article about X, and a section about X in an article about Y, that section should be considerably less detailed than the article about X. See WP:SUMMARY for some explanation of this. Steve Smith (talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 03:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

You could also use either {{see|article Y#section}} if it's a smallish section, which would give

Further information: article Y § section

or {{main|article Y}} if the entire article would be suitable, which would give

Main article: article Y

-- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Follow Up

Is there any way to add a comment like that into an edit summary after the edit is made? What should I do in this situation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Sports Fan (talk • contribs) 03:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

It is not possible to change the edit summary of an already-made edit. You could leave a note on the talk page, or make a dummy edit with an appropriate edit summary. Algebraist 03:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Hiding category list

An editor suggested here that the long list of categories be hidden on the article. Is that possible? I suspect not. —teb728 t c 05:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The list could certainly be pared down. There are clearly quite a few redundant categories there. --Jayron32 05:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

If you wanna quit, how do you??

How do you quit Wikipedia. (Just a little kid!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cam486 (talk • contribs) 07:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

You can quit Wikipedia??? I don't know how that would work! Seriously, see Right to Vanish ... basically, your account is self-labeled as not active, but the account always exists... once in, always in! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

You can check out, but you can never leave... – ukexpat (talk) 14:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

hehe good one Ukexp! Ive seen alot of people use the retire user box to indicate they are leaving Ottawa4ever (talk) 17:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Just stop editing. There is no need to announce your desire to "retire" unless you feel the need to make an attention-grabbing statement on your way out the door. If you don't want to edit anymore, just stop using your account. Functionally, there will be no difference between doing that and jumping through major hoops to make sure that everyone knows you are leaving. --Jayron32 18:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Am I allowed to use a photograph of someone else's painting in a Wiki article if I bought that painting?

If not, am I allowed to if I have the artist's permission? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rage707 (talk • contribs) 07:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Although you may own the painting, the copyright belongs to the artist (and a photo of a piece of work is still copyrighted to the copyright owner). If the artist wants to release the copyright, then it would be ok, but see "Donating copyrighted materials" for how this can be done. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

However, if the painting's copyright has expired, (if, for instance, it was painted prior to 1923 and is in the US) then you may upload the photo. If the painting is a "work for hire," Then whoever paid the artist owns the copyright (but you will need a copy of the contract to prove it.) Read WP:C. If you get the copyright holder's permission (usually the artist holds the copyright,) you will need to file an WP:OTRS. If, however, the artist creates an account and uploads the picture, the artist can state that the painting is an original work of the artist/uploader. OF course, if is is uploades, then anyne can use the picture for any purpose, on or off Wikipedia. The Wikipeia rules are complicated because copyright law is complicated, and Wikipedia complies with the law. -Arch dude (talk) 12:43, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that, Arch dude. I assumed that as the OP has been working on the article about Kerry Hallam, that the work in question was one of his, in which case it won't have been painted until at least 1950, hence all his works are still under copyright. I'd forgotten about "work for hire" copyright details - thanks for clarifying that! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Is there any way to turn on line numbers?

If I look at a comparison of selected revisions, Wikipedia always shows the comparison of the old text and the new in a side-by-side format. The comparison starts with a short line that reads "Line xxx:" indicating the position within the article where the revision is located.

This is a great help but, unfortunately, xxx may be a large number and counting down a thousand line numbers is not practical. However it is often desirable to see the change in a broader context. Having line numbers would be helpful. Or have I just missed something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gargoyle888 (talk • contribs) 13:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

AFAIK there isn't. It can be aggravating, but I usually look for the section headings so I don't have to literally count down the lines. Otherwise, most (all?) browsers have a "search" function, which I use to quickly find more context than the diff displays on its own. It may be theoretically possible to script something that adds line numbers, but that's way outside my pay scale. ~ Amory (user • talk • contribs) 14:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I've been doing what suggested: Using the heading names (but they are not always present) or using the browser "Find" utility. It just seems a bit pointless to provide line numbers and then not number the lines. --gargoyle888 (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Switching from secured to unsecured page

I just learned today that I should not use links to a page on the secured server, when adding links to a help response as that link won't work for something that isn't logged onto the secure server. (I presume this advise applies broadly, such as including links on someone's talk page.) If I'm at a page I would like to link, is there an easy way to switch to the unsecured server, or, generate a link to the unsecured server? I thought I could edit the url, but that failed. --SPhilbrickT 13:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The SSL server's URLs look like this: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk and the regular URLs look like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk. So it should be rather straightforward to remove everything from "secure" to "en" and replace it with "en.wikipedia.org" (and then change the "https://" to "http://"). I can't think of an easier way to do it. Xenon54 (talk) 13:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Users outside the secure server will not be logged in when they click a link to the secure server and that's often impractical but they can still see the link. I think you can always edit url's to the English Wikipedia by replacing https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en by http://en.wikipedia.org, for example replacing https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Did it work for you? I've tried several times and get a page load error. When I click on your last link, I get a page load error.--SPhilbrickT 14:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Clicking on PH's link works fine for me (also on the secure server). What error are you getting? Xenon54 (talk) 14:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. I was getting an error, but I've rebooted, and no longer get the error.--SPhilbrickT 14:43, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Login unification

Excuse me, I have unified login (Dark Eagle) in Wikipedia & others Wikis but in English Wikipedia someone is using this name. Can I get that account?
I ask about that therefore I have 184 active accounts on project sites. Thanks. --89.18.196.57 (talk) 14:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The user Dark Eagle has made edits and therefore you can't usurp it. Sorry. Xenon54 (talk) 14:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

And what I have to do? --89.18.196.57 (talk) 15:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

You'll need to use a different user name. As Xenon says, the user Dark Eagle on the English wikipedia is active, and so you cannot request the name. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

CED Capacitance electronic disc system

My Aunt recently passed away and in going through her estate she had several CED's. I am not familiar at all with these and wondered if they are of any value? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.23.226.254 (talk) 15:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Capacitance Electronic Disc. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. TNXMan 15:35, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Editing text above edit box

How to edit the text above the edit box? Like when I edit this page there are several bullet points telling me to "fill in a descriptive topic for the question" and "read/search the FAQ before asking a question here". Is this something only the administrators can do, if so where to request the edit?—SpaceFlight89 16:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Those are edit notices, which you can read more about on this page. I have mine set up for my talk page at User talk:Tnxman307/Editnotice. The one for this page is Wikipedia:Help Desk/editintro.TNXMan 16:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The one for this page is actually at Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Help desk. :) hmwitht 16:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Help template

This template Supervillian when posted on sites keeps getting redirected to other template files meaning that it has more than one name and has been moved around. It needs to have only one link on both the file and posted name of the file. And the name preference of the file should be DC supervillians. Please fix it. Captain Virtue (talk) 16:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, It looks to me as if some of those redirects exist because you've moved the template around; in any case it doesn't matter because I don't think this redirects do any harm. I would suggest the template should be at Template:DC Comics supervillains since that distinguishes them from any other supervillains (and spells 'villain' correctly!). If you agree then feel free to move it yourself, and don't worry about the redirects. There's no need to "fix" them either - see WP:NOTBROKEN. Cheers, --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

asexual reproduction

why are male cells are not produced in binary fission...instead of daughter cells —Preceding unsigned comment added by Piyush 6994 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

This question belongs on the Science reference desk. Please note that Wikipedia will not do your homework for you. Xenon54 (talk) 16:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Please do your own homework.

Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia.--Notedgrant (talk) 17:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Are open accounts allowed

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 17:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

User:Default911Has an open account where the pass is visible is this allowed --Notedgrant (talk) 17:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

That's just asking for trouble - I have blanked the page and will report the username as potentially disruptive. – ukexpat (talk) 17:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou--Notedgrant (talk) 17:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The user page has been deleted and the account blocked. – ukexpat (talk) 17:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

thankyou again :D--Notedgrant (talk) 18:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Biographical article

The article about Henrik Brockmann has had a section about Henrik's history with a band cut by the subject of the article, because he doesn't want to be associated with the particular band. In my opinion this violates WP:BLP and WP:OWN, but to be on the safe side, I'll ask here - how much can the subject of the article control the contents? Kotiwalo (talk) 18:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

They can't provided that the article complies with relevant policies and guidelines. If they have a problem with an article, there is a process set out at WP:BIOSELF. – ukexpat (talk) 18:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Kotiwalo (talk) 18:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

can't log in

i can't log in. maybe i don't remeber my password correctly? what should i do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.217.11.102 (talk) 18:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Did you provide an e-mail address when you created your account? If so you can ask the system to e-mail your password to you. – ukexpat (talk) 18:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Also make sure you have your cookies enabled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.52.200 (talk) 18:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

And see Help:Logging in. What is your username? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:35, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Today's featured article

Resolved

Why is today's featured article actually not featured: it does not have a star. --96.232.52.200 (talk) 18:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

It is, check the article's talk page. I'm not sure where the star is supposed to show. Kotiwalo (talk) 18:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

It is supposed to show at the upper-right corner of the article. --96.232.52.200 (talk) 18:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism. Someone deleted the external links, categories, language links, and featured article template. -- kainaw™ 18:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

(ec) I have restored it now. Theleftorium 18:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Disabling popups

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 19:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

How can I disable pop ups? I can't copy and paste, scroll down a page, I keep getting mobbed with popups, then those popups branch off into more popups and it keeps going on and on and on. I deleted in from my monobook.js and emptied my cache and it still doesn't work. I can't find the disable button on the popups either, this is annoying. • S • C • A • R • C • E • 18:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Where do you find pop ups on wp ,You can disable them by changing your browsers settings Or scanning your pc for adwares --{{SUBST:User:Notedgrant/sig}}</nowiki (talk) 18:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

No, I meant Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups • S • C • A • R • C • E • 19:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Did you check the Gadgets section of your preferences? – ukexpat (talk) 19:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)x2 I think he means WP:Tools/Navigation popups. hmwitht 19:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Completely forgot about My preferences, Thank you! • S • C • A • R • C • E • 19:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Easily done! Resolved. – ukexpat (talk) 19:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

You could also try increasing popupDelay so it takes longer for the popup to show. See Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation_popups#Configuration_.28optional.29. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 21:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Changing the title of an article

Hi

I have made several amendments to the Wikipedia article entitled Concordant Literal Version. After a discussion with the president of the Concordant Publishing Concern, who publish the Concordant Version, I have become aware that the title of the article should be "Concordant Version" ie., the word "Literal" should fall away. Apparently, the Concern never uses this title to refer to its published scriptural translation works.

I am not sure how to change the title.

I would appreciate any assistance.

Thanks

Craig du Toit —Preceding unsigned comment added by Csanctuary (talk • contribs) 19:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

See WP:MOVE, but your account must be autoconfirmed before you can move pages. If you are writing or editing this article on behalf of the publisher, you have a conflict of interest and should exercise extreme caution when editing to maintain a neutral point of view. – ukexpat (talk) 19:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

COI issues aside, I'm moved it to Concordant Version, which is the appropriate article title. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The article needs a lot of work, as it fails WP:NPOV and other tests. I had to tear out a big chunk because it was a copyright violation. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Unable to open wikipedia addresses found in Google -- Windows XP says no file extension associated

Recently I have been unable to open Wikipedia articles found in Google searches. Windows XP gives me a message that it has no file extension associated with the site, and is unable to find the appropriate program. What program is associated with Wikipedia files? Thanks.Fredhartung (talk) 21:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

This is a problem others have reported but it apparently only occurs for some people using a combination of incoming links from Google and Internet Explorer. Google attaches something to the link which maybe causes problems with the communication between Wikipedia and some browsers. Other than changing browser or copying the url from Google to the browser address bar instead of clicking the link, I don't know a solution. Does Internal Wikipedia links and links from other sites than Google work normally for you? Which browser do you have? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Pages that contain only an infobox and a "reflist"

Hi I was doing some work for WP Films and i was wodnering if there was anything wrong with just creating an infobox on a page, and leaving it like that. To see an example seeBig Animal thanks --Tim1357 (talk) 21:43, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia has many articles like that. Opinions vary but if they have a sentence defining the subject (like Big Animal does) and a notable subject then they are usually accepted. But please add a stub category (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types) and at least one non-stub category when creating it. Then other editors with interest in the subject can better find it and maybe expand. An external link to the Internet Movie Database or another site also helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Using Variety, Chicago Tribune, The Seattle Times and (last but not least - perhaps!) the Hartford Courant, I have added more info to that particular film! It is now definitely more than just an infobox and a reflist! Still a bit of work required though... right, now I'm off to bed (after a quick cigarette!) - incidently, there are other sources of reference out there, I just found 4 useful ones via Google News Search. Good night everyone! *yawn* -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:50, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Block and Ban

What sititions will happen if I have been "baaned" instead of be blocked?Bus88MRT (talk) 23:43, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

A ban is a direction that you may not edit a page, class of pages or Wikipedia entirely. It is a social injunction that does not rely on any software, though if you are banned entirely, this may and is often coupled with a block. A block is a function of the software which stops you from editing Wikipedia entirely for a given period of time. So if you are banned from editing any pages, for example, that relate to Monty Python (a "topic ban"), and you go add some material to the Fish slapping dance, you will have violated your Monty Python ban, and very well may then be blocked from editing as a result of violating the ban. If is helps, you can think of a ban as a court order to refrain from some activity and a block as a set of handcuffs which actually stops you. Does that clear up the distinction?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

as listens, "edit" icon will remove at bannees' wikipedia page? is it right? Single site such this English Wikiepedia or whole wikimedia project?Bus88MRT (talk) 00:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Does partly block applied (some pages will be blocked, but another pages can edit freely)?

Finally, blocking to modify other user's userpage is appliable? Thank you. Bus88MRT (talk) 00:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

August 11

An image license template and "all rights reserved"

I think there may be a problem with the following template:

It says all rights reserved, but then it goes on to list a set of conditions to which the image may be modified, etc. The "all rights reserved" part makes me think that this license is for non-free images. The "Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted" part makes me think this license is for free images. Should the template be reworded? Is this template for free or non-free images? Is this license usable on Wikipedia the way it is worded now? I was going post this on the template's talk page, but compared to other image licenses, this one doesn't get used all that much so I figured not many people would have that page watchlisted.--Rockfang (talk) 00:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Copyright law grants certain rights to the copyright holder. The phrase "All rights reserved" means that the copyright holder is explicitly not relinquishing any of those rights. One of those rights is the right to control the use of the material, including grant of permission to copy under specified conditions. Such a grant is generally in the form of a contract or a license. In this case, the copyright holder chooses to license the right under certain conditions. If you violate the conditions, then you are in violation of the copyright holder's rights: you have no right except those granted via the license (and a few such as fair use granted directly by copyright law,) because the copyright holder reserves all rights. You have no "right" to use the material: you only have permission to use the material. -Arch dude (talk) 00:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for replying. I read what you typed, but I'm not sure it answered any of my questions. :) If you did, I apologise.--Rockfang (talk) 01:04, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

The template says that the user is keeping HIS rights while at the same time granting OTHERS rights as well. This opposed to a situation where he might be relinquishing (some of) his rights. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry I was so obscure. I'll try again. The original author is keeping all the rights granted to him by law. You have no rights, but you do have permissions (not rights) that he (not the law) gives you via this license if you adhere to the terms of the license. -Arch dude (talk) 22:14, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I just uploaded a photo to add to a director's artcle, need help!!!

Resolved

Being a newbie to all this, I appreciate any help I can get. I just uploaded a photo (one which I took) of Jay Jennings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jay_Jennings-Writer-Director-Producer-Musician-Author.jpg#file) and I entered (to my knowledge) all the necessary info. I just don't know what to do next. Can someone look over the page and help me organize it so the photo and the summary I added is placed in that box on the upper right side of the article (like it is on other articles)? Much appreciated. Timemachine1967 (talk) 00:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I have added an infobox with the image. There are many categories of information that can be added to the infobox. First, you can visit the template page to see all parameters supported by it at {{Infobox actor}}, and you can visit some famous film directors' pages to see various ways the particular infobox has been used in practice.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Timemachine1967 (talk) 01:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Editing problems when logged in

I can't edit any pages when I'm logged on with my user account. As far as I know, I haven't been blocked, banned, or anything of the sort.

When I try to edit a page in my user account, I see the expected URL, but no editing screen.

Information you might be interested in:

• My user account: Dale Arnett
• Browser/OS: I've had this problem with both Firefox 3.5 and Safari 4.0.2 for Mac OS X 10.4.11.
• Skin: Classic

Is there something I should be doing? — 74.241.14.110 (talk) 00:46, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I've experienced this thing too. When clicking the "edit" command while using the "classic" skin, the page goes blank. I had to change to another skin to be able to write this comment. Antique Rose — Drop me a line 01:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Looks like it's a skin issue. I'm using a different skin to write this. — Dale Arnett (talk) 01:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Others have reported this bug at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Unable to edit in Classic skin. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

how do a searching for one particular word in the text ( not entry title)?

let's say i want to search for any time "archery" is listed within the pages of this beast called wikipedia.

when i search "archery" now, all i get is when it appears in the title ( i believe -- at least the first few hundred hits so far it has...). while interesting, that's not cutting it.

i'm more interested when the word "archery" appears within the article, as in a mention in Background sub-header...

and on that note, is there a way to search ALL of wiki Background sections ONLY for a term?

i have tried to read the advanced searching ptions, but it just ain't clicking with me. my apologies.

whoever answers this question correctly, will earn a temporary hallowed shrine to be built in their honor in my office.

thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.70.95.162 (talk) 01:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Both title and body of articles are searched by default. Search results with a matching title are usually displayed first. intitle:archery can be used to only search titles. It gives me 137 hits. I don't know a method to only search body and exclude articles with a matching title. See more at Wikipedia:Searching. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

How about using Google? "archery site:en.wikipedia.org" brings back both title and body results. Xenon54 (talk) 01:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) As long as you want your search to be restricted to articles, Google is a robust search engine for searching Wikipedia. I haven't kept up with improvements to tour internal search engine but Google used to be orders of magnitude better than Wikipedia's own search engine. Much of the functionality of Google has gone away since we instituted noindexing of everything but the article main space but I digress. For your search you can search Google using the operators site:en.wikipedia.org -intitle:archery archery The first section restricts the search to only this site; the second says "don't return pages with the word archery in the title" and the third tells it to search for the word archery. Here's a link to that search.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Also of note: Special:WhatLinksHere/Archery lists all pages which link to the page Archery. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 01:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I NEED HELP MAKING A LINK ON A WIKIPEDIA PAGE TO A WIKISOURCE PAGE

Hello, The Baron Von Steuben wikipedia page needs an icon that tells readers he has writings on wikisource. If an editor could create that icon and link to his author page on wikisource, it would really be appreciated.

thanks, a reader —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.172.142 (talk) 01:50, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

{{Wikisource|Author:Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben}} could be added to Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben#External links but the only writing I can see at wikisource:Author:Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben is wikisource:Revolutionary War Drill Manual and that already has a wikisource link at Revolutionary War Drill Manual and Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben#External links. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Free use?

US government photos are free use. How about this? http://www.azcorrections.gov/inmate_datasearch/results.aspx?InmateNumber=207346&LastName=SCHWARTZ&FNMI=B&SearchType=SearchInet This is from the Arizona state government.

Is this free use? I do not want to steal photos. Acme Plumbing (talk) 04:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

You are correct in that US government photos are public domain (free to use). However, the law concerning that, 17 U.S.C 105, only applies to works made by the federal government. If you scroll down to the bottom of the page you linked to, the Arizona Department of Corrections claims copyright, so no, it isn't free or public domain. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 04:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

login/editing problem

I am having a problem editing and logging out. When logged in, all the links work except the "log out" link at the top right, which isn't clickable. I can click on all "edit" links, but the page doesn't load -- I just get a blank page. I have tried reinstalling my browser, clearing my cache/cookies and everything else (which is how I logged out), using Firefox in safe mode, and using a different browser, all to no avail. I'm not blocked, and I'm not getting a block message. Any ideas? Posted by User:Exploding Boy (not logged in) at 05:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Update: After getting some help clearing something out of my monobook, I'm able to edit again. However, the log out link at top right still isn't clickable, and Wikipedia pages are taking a long time to load. Exploding Boy (talk) 06:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Have a look at the post above Editing problems when loggedin - try changing your theme. Tiggerjay (talk) 06:49, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Template class page

Template talk:Accipitriformes: I have written in "class=Template" which works in some WikiProject template banners, but not this one. Can it be fixed? I think it should add bird related templates to Category:Template-Class bird articles, a sub-cat of Category:Template-Class articles and Category:Bird articles by quality. Snowman (talk) 08:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I have added the full quality scale as given in Template:WPBannerMeta (which is used in Template:BirdTalk. It will automatically classify Templates, Categories, Portals etc as such. You will have to create the categories; just follow the link in a banner and do it. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 11:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Presumably it will only automatically classify pates as templates if class=Template is used in the banner? Snowman (talk) 12:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

bot to convert jpgs to pngs?

Is there a bot in place that will convert jpgs to pngs? Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 09:29, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

718 Bot (talk · contribs) was approved for this. --59.95.99.183 (talk) 09:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

The user running it is away from Wikipedia for an extended period, what is my next option? Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 04:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

A good conversion from JPEG to PNG is an activity that presently requires human intervention, since corruption by JPEG artifacts is not a reversible process. Tag it with {{BadJPEG}} and wait for someone to take a look at it. Dcoetzee 05:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

New Stussy article

Resolved

 – Cptnono (talk) 05:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I was searching for Stussy stuff online. I can't seem to find an article regarding the brand. I think it meets the criteria laid out in WP:CORP but I wanted to see if a) I was searching for it incorrectly b)If it had ben created and deleted Also, I think I have seen a noticeboard to request new articles. Can anyone point me in that direction to get some input from other editors.Cptnono (talk) 10:35, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

There is currently no article about Stussy on Wikipedia. See the logs for Stussy and Stüssy, which shows an article has been created and deleted before (under CSD A7). You can create the article again if it does qualify WP:CORP, but be sure to show this notability. Requesting new articles can be done at WP:RA (this should go under this), but it may take a very long time until it is created. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 11:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm assuming it does meet the requirments but haven't verified yet. The logs are exactly what I was looking for. I have created the article. Although I have been editing for some time, this was my first attempt at a brand new peice. If anyone notices any concerns bring it up on the talk page or edit accordingly. Thanks again for the links Chamal. Cptnono (talk) 05:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Paragraph boxed and elongated

One of my new article Paragraphs is boxed and elongated. Why is this and how can it be corrected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcipa (talk • contribs) 11:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

If it looks like this

Then don't start the line with a space. Use a colon for indentation. See Wikipedia:Cheatsheet for more markup. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 12:00, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Log in

I am having trouble logging in. I am User:Buster7. I was (just a moment ago) working on an article I had created the other day. [Charles Felix Van Quickenborne]. Without noticing that I was not logged in , I made a few edits. Now, although I see the screen that tells me I am logged in, the moment I click on "watchlist (or any other), it goes back to the log-in screen. Thanks in advance.--75.2.246.229 (talk) 12:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Got in....:-).......--Buster7 (talk) 12:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

If you arent using a public computer, make sure you click "Remember me for the next 30 days." That should keep you safe for a month at a time! Livewireo (talk) 13:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

See also Help:Logging in. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Creating a portal

How can I create a portal ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wild mine (talk • contribs) 14:01, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

The guidelines are here: Wikipedia:Portal/Instructions. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:06, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you !Wild mine (talk) 14:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I am curious as to what you want to create a portal for? I've seen people who have extensive experience of editing articles having problems creating a portal - so perhaps if you told us what portal you want to create, someone might be able to help a bit! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm even more curious now... a "Google" Portal? How will that work? -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I smell an MfD around the corner...Aren't portals supposed to be for broad topics, like video games or radio? A portal based on a group of around ten articles (basically History of Google and Google#See also) isn't going to work too well. Plus it appears the user doesn't really know what to do now they've done the first portal creation step ({{box portal skeleton}}). Xenon54 (talk) 14:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest you give my own essay on portal creation a glance to give you some hints, tips and advice as well. Nanonic (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Are US Department Of Justice Files Considered Citable Sources ?

Let me ask some important questions which unarguably are legitimate help desk questions, and I would assume probably are not questions which anyone has previously asked you about --

The overall premise of the questions:

It seems to me that a file created by the US Government and which is in a sense “published” because the Freedom of Information act allows its contents to be made available upon request.

My questions relating to US Government files :

(1) Is a file created by the US Government, at tax payer expense, if not declared secret, an authoritative source which can be cited in Wiki ? And if it can be cited then how do you cite it ?

(2) Is a file which has already been created and is available to be requested under the Freedom of Information Act, but must be actually be specifically requested in order to actually be released -- is that considered published ?

(3) What if I definitively know what is in the file (because I contributed original content to it in the form of letters ) ? Can I not release such content without formally requesting the US Government to release it -- in other words, can I not release my own contributions to an authoritatively published source and then cite the source ?

My question relating to WIKI help desk use:

If I observe actual violations of US federal law (in this case Obstruction of Justice) when I find what appears to be agents planted by the US Department of Justice laying their fingers on the public global information footprint of people they have indicted and await trial (Governor Blagojevich for instance), shouldn’t I use the HELP DESK to bring this matter to the attention of WIKI ? How do you report such issues ?

For people from other countries who might work for the Wiki Help Desk, let me explain that once you indict someone for a federal crime in the USA then an entirely different set of laws comes into play. The US Justice Department, in the interest of fairness, has certain obligations -- they cannot interfere with the ability of Mr. Blagojevich’s lawyers to collect facts. Since we all know that Wiki’s articles and help desk are scanned by Google’s robots and their content becomes global, any redaction of information useful to his lawyers here by US Government personnel would constitute obstruction of justice. Anyone not employed by the US government could do so, but not these people because they have a special obligation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.103.28.57 (talk) 14:24, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, in order:

Question 1 - not all Government Files would be counted as reliable - it depends on who created the content (see 3 below)

Question 2 - I am not sure if something which might be available can be cited. Although you might say that your file is available under the FoIA, it might be that if I tried to get access to it, the request might be denied for reasons of security,etc. It is not the same as a newspaper article which is available with a subscription - we can verify that the article is available, even if we don't actually pay and access it. How can we verify that your file is available under the FoIA without paying for the request?

Question 3 - in general, self-published materials (which would include self-written letters) would not generally count as reliable documents. Whether they would count as such when quoted in a Government file is another issue, although as the file would show that they are written by you, rather than by what Wikipedia would count as an independent, reliable source of information, they may still not be counted as citeable. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

In response to the second part of your query (the 'helpdesk' bit) - this is not the place to mention your suspicions. I would suggest either Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism if you count it as vandalism or Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents for other incidents. Make sure you have evidence of your allegations (times and dates etc). Whether it would make a difference if you were a registered user or not, I cannot say. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I do thank PhatomSteve for trying, but his response seems only slightly more useful than saying "I don't Know". He did at least define the issues involved, which I sincerely thank him for accomplishing.

You say that the Government source must be reliable. How the heck does one establish that ?

We all know that the US Department of Justice has historically had an unimpeachable reputation for honesty -- that is until George Bush came to power. Then it turned into a nest of vipers with its number 1 viper, Alberto Gonzales, former US Attorney General, kicked out for corruption. Obama is likely to restore its reputation, but the problem is that Republicans have completely blocked even commencing confirmation of all of his replacements for US Attorneys in the Senate -- this means we are left will all the same Republicans that ran local US Attorney offices around the country. Until they are kicked out and people like me rush in looking for vengence by exposing all the crap that went on under Bush, we are stuck with what we have. If this were any country other than the USA, I would expect a coup d'etat to stop all this crap from coming out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.103.28.57 (talk) 16:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

That's nonsense. Despise Bush though I may, the US DOJ has had many other long ugly periods, as anybody conversant with labor or civil rights history knows. Try the Palmer Raids, the term of AG Mitchell under Nixon, etc. The lies against ML King under the Hoover FBI are still being taken seriously by some editors here! --Orange Mike | Talk 17:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

To answer your questions, Wikipedia can only really accept material published in secondary sources, not primary sources. Read our info on original research for more info. I'll refrain from any political commentary. TNXMan 17:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Government documents are not considered reliable just because they are government documents. For example, the government interviewed a lot of people who claimed to have been abducted by aliens. Those transcripts are now government documents. Using them to state that there is reliable evidence of alien abductions is simply idiotic. What matters is the source of the data, not the repository. Also, as mentioned, the help desk is for help with using Wikipedia, not for "helping" Wikipedia turn into a collection of unfounded conspiracy theories. -- kainaw™ 17:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Mr Grimm, if other editors see the actual content you want to add to Wikipedia [5][6][7] then I think you will get a more clear answer. I have already given my answer at User talk:PrimeHunter#I respectfully disagree. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:04, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Orange Mike, for an unexhaustive list of remarkably corrupt USDOJs under Republican Presidents.

And Tnxman307, isn't a file, by definition a secondary source since it merely collects information on a particular subject created by entities who may not even know each other ? Would an FBI file which comments on a USDOJ file then become a secondary source which can be cited ? -- Because believe me, I have one of those too -- For example, to support that assertion, last week I faxed the local FBI office, they know me well, and called them a bunch of retards from participating in a local Job Fair and then providing absolutely no security for a windowless concrete on slab room of 200 people carrying briefcases that had never been checked by anyone. I certainly hope someone got fired over there for that, because that is why I sent it.

And Kainaw, you miss the point here altogether, the issue at hand is not whether inclusion in a government file makes an assertion a fact, the reader would judge that matter -- the point is merely whether or not something in a government file which is available for public inspection under the freedom of information act -- is that yes or no, a citable source ? Someone, please definitively answer that. So far, other than establishing that a department of the US Government with access to 20 billion in funding, may not be reliable for political reasons, I am finding no evidence yet that it is not authoritative or that Government sources in general are not quotable in Wiki.

I am making a sincere effort to nail Wiki down on this issue so I can proceed to publish the entire contents of my USDOJ and FBI files here and then link them to related cases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.103.28.57 (talk) 18:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

No, they are not "published" in any meaningful sense. Also: Wikipedia is not your webhost; you cannot "publish the entire contents of my USDOJ and FBI files here"! That's not what we are for. Read our rules about original research. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if you are simply not reading the responses or simply refusing to accept any answer you don't want to hear. The answer is NO. Being "published" (which you are redefining to mean "publicly available") does not make it a reliable resource. Government documents are not necessarily a reliable resource. Some government documents are reliable - such as the census reports. Others are not. I do not understand why that is hard to comprehend. If you can explain why you don't understand it, we can attempt to help you understand. If you are simply refusing to accept an answer you don't like then it is a problem that cannot be fixed because Wikipedia will never ever become your personal conspiracy theory post. -- kainaw™ 20:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

You do not understand the function of the help desk, nor do you understand the function of Wikipedia. Therefore, in an attempt to help you I will briefly describe these two functions. First, you cannot rely on the help desk to "pin down" Wikipedia policy. Wikipedia policy is arrived at via consensus among the active Wikipedia editors, and the consensus is documented in the various Wikipedia policy articles. There are roughtly 150,000 active Wikipedia editors. If you disagree with Wikipedia policies, or you are having difficulty understanding nuances of a particular Wikipedia policy, then you should engange with the interested editors on the talk pages of those particular pages. Wikipedia's various talk pages are monitored by self-selected volunteers, and different volunteers have different interest and inclinations. Those of us who hang out on the help desk (perhaps a hundred or so) do not represent Wikipedia as a whole, and there is no reason to think that we are interested or knowledgable about the subtle nuances of all of the policies, Furthermore, there is no particular reason to think that any of use care to debate or explain policies in depth. What we can do here at the help desk is to point you to the correct places at Wikipedia to get help about the policies. Those are also the places where you can try to develop a consensus to change the policies. So, in my capacity as a self-selected helpdesk volunteer, I urge you to to first read WP:V and WP:RS, and then engange the interested editors on their respective talk pages. Now, about the function of Wikipedia. We are not the place to publish your own theories, even if those theories are based on reliable sources Pleaes read WP:SYNTH and WP:NPOV. This is a basic tenet of Wikipedia. If you wish to publish original research on the web, Please find another venue. One possible venue is our sister site at b:Wikibooks. If you have governmant documents that you have received under the FOIA, you can publish those documents at our sister site at s:Wikisource. -Arch dude (talk) 21:57, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Some Template Related Query. Problem With "|"

Just see Template:Ubxdisplay/random. I want to improve it.

It currently works like this

It displays a random template but No Params Allowed.

I tried working it out as follows

In the sandbox, I typed the following:

{{{{{1}}}|{{#if:{{{1}}}|{{!}}{{{1/1}}}}}}}

but it didn't work. Here, 1 was the template param and 1/1 was the template's first param's parameter.

{{#if:{{{1}}}|&# 124;{{{1/1}}}}}}}

still, it didn't work.

Question

Is there a way possible??

--Srinivas (talk) 14:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Image

I would like to add a logo of Cambridge House to the Cambridge House (organisation) article. The image is not a trademark, and I have been given permission by the charity to add it to the page. However, I am not sure how to proceed without the image being immediately deleted.Any suggestions would be much appreciated.Nkannas (talk) 15:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Logos can usually be uploaded to, and used on En Wikipedia, with an appropriate non-free use rationale, see WP:LOGO. If you go to WP:Upload and click on the Organizations link in the Logo section, it will take you to an upload page where you can fill in the required fields - remember to select "Logo" from the drop down list in the Licensing field. – ukexpat (talk) 15:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

problem deleting a logo

I added an organisation's logo without realising that the image resolution was far too large.How can I delete it, or modify the existing etnry to include a much smaller resolution image?Thanks in advanceNkannas (talk) 16:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Upload a new version of the file. —SpaceFlight89 16:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Is there a page which lists which WikiProjects have the most articles?

I am looking for a list of the wikiprojects which currently have the most articles. A complete list of all projects would be great, if not a top-ten or so would suffice. thanks. Willy turner (talk) 17:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

There is WP:WikiProject Council/Directory for a list of WikiProjects, but I am not aware of any list that shows what you described. It would be very difficult to keep up-to-date. I think that your best bet would be seeing how many pages are in the categories of WikiProjects. hmwitht 21:50, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I replaced my article's one photo with a cleaner one, yet Wikipedia added 4 extras photo to the file history/jpg page (not what I did).

I replaced my original photo with a current, cleaned-up photo to the file history/jpg page. This is the only link that should've been added to the file history/jpg page: http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/5/54/Jay_Jennings-Writer-Director-Producer-Musician-Author.jpg. This new (current) photo added just fine to the Jay Jennings article page too. Yet when I checked the file history/jpg page, Wikipedia inexplicably added the old photo and new photo to the file history/jpg section 4 times (as reverted) making the file history look ridiculous and cluttered with 4 meaningless reverts. I tried to remove the other 4 revert columns (which I did not add), but do not know how. Can someone with the proper authority please remove them? I did not add the 4 extra reverted photos, as they serve no purpose, plus cosmetically, it makes the file summary look amateurish, especially since I've worked very hard to make the article look very neat and up to Wikipedia's standards. Here are the links to the 4 extra photos.

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/archive/5/54/20090811195304%21Jay_Jennings-Writer-Director-Producer-Musician-Author.jpg

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/archive/5/54/20090811194932%21Jay_Jennings-Writer-Director-Producer-Musician-Author.jpg

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/archive/5/54/20090811194850%21Jay_Jennings-Writer-Director-Producer-Musician-Author.jpg

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/archive/5/54/20090811194804%21Jay_Jennings-Writer-Director-Producer-Musician-Author.jpg

Thank you.Timemachine1967 (talk) 20:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I deleted all versions of the image/page except the most recent per WP:CSD#G7. hmwitht 21:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, you may have a conflict of interest & should read WP:COI. hmwitht 21:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I don't see a COI. I'm just a fan trying to start an article for one of my favorite directors. It seems I've earned the wrath a bunch of newbie-hating editors, which I thought was against Wikipedia guidelines. Timemachine1967 (talk) 00:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

SUL account

Can anybody change my user name to User:Tjako? I want to start a SUL account. (See nl:Gebruiker:Tjako) that's me. 21:37 11 ago 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dutch T-bone (talk • contribs)

Please see WP:Changing username. hmwitht 21:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Rating Articles

How do you rate an article on its quality and importance scales? Dogposter 22:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

It depends on whether the article is a part of a WikiProject or not. If it is, if you look at the Project's page, they will have the criteria for the assessment (or if not, you can ask on the project's talk page). If it is not part of a WikiProject already, find a suitable one to put it in (see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory) and then look at the relevant Project page(s). -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 23:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Someone elses writing.

I've had a copy of Shel Silverstein's work for some time and recently a friend asked me where they could find a copy. After finding out that the website i got it from is no longer active I started looking everywhere for it (with no luck). Since I have the only FULL six act copy that I know of, and it was posted all over the web in the past, is it OK to post it on Wikipedia without fear of a lawsuit?Shelfan (talk) 23:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

A couple of questions: firstly, what is the copyright date? Whether you can find a copy online or not, if it's still under copyright, then it's still under copyright - not being able to find it doesn't alter this; secondly, is your intention on placing the text of one of his full works on wikipedia? If so, that wouldn't be allowed - Wikipedia is not a repository for source material such as entire books. Complete copies of primary sources may go into Wikisource subject to that project's guidelines, but not on Wikipedia. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 23:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Get it from a real, physical library: Template:Worldcat id -Arch dude (talk) 01:22, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Taking text from annother website

is it alright to copy and paste movie synopsis from the movie studio? see User:Tim1357/sandbox/death on a factory farm--Tim1357 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, as HBO quite clearly have © 2009 Home Box Office, Inc. All Rights Reserved at the bottom of the page, then no! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 23:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Please see wp:copy for more information on the wikipedia policy. Tiggerjay (talk) 05:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Almost equally relevant is that such a synopsis is bound to be full of studio spin and thus violative of our neutral point of view as well. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:20, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Getting Started

Hi,

My name is Adi and I live in Toronto. I would like to join you as a user and am very interested in your internet and data scope.

I tried to Log In using my actual name but your sytem would not allow it. I have no idea how to get into your site. Unfortunately if I do have a user name and password with you, I do not know what they may be and I thank you for assiting me in this matter.

Sincerely,

Adi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.91.196 (talk) 00:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

This is the encyclopedia Wikipedia. You have to create an account at Special:UserLogin/signup before you can log in. You can choose a username and password there. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, as you may have discovered, you can freely edit wikipedia without an account or logon. There are a couple of things you cannot do, and I highly encourage you to create a personal account, but it is not required. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

My Kelly Kelly Page was deleted

My name is GameBoy789 why was my kelly kelly page deleted I spent hours doing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GameBoy789 (talk • contribs) 00:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean Kelly Kelly? It hasn't been deleted. Nanonic (talk) 00:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not your page. Deleting a page and reverting edits to a page are different things. Your edits to Kelly Kelly were reverted by other editors. Click the history tab to see the page history [8] where some of them used edit summaries. You can discuss the content of the page and make suggestions on its talk page at Talk:Kelly Kelly. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

As PrimeHunter says, its not your page. There have been almost 3000 edits on the page since it was created 3 May 2006. You made 18 edits yesterday and today. Looking at your edits, they were all reverted as all the content you removed should not have been removed, and all the content that you added was unsourced. While all contributions are welcomed, if an edit removes information which has been found to be reliable and/or adds unverified information, then this will be reverted to the previous version. If the information you wish to add can be verified, with reliable citations from independent sources, then add the information with the relevant citations. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I need an Admin

How can I get in touch with an admin urgently? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.226.246 (talk) 01:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It depends on the nature of your problem. Your best bet is Wikipedia:Administrator's noticeboard. Xenon54 (talk) 01:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Are you still in need of assistance? I do not see a post over at the noticeboard, nor does it appear that you've made any other edits except to this page. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

IP Address

I edited an article before creating an account and it logged my entry as my IP address. I've since created an account and would like my IP address removed from the history. How do I do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by U2 fan 35 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, it used to be possible but isn't anymore. Xenon54 (talk) 01:23, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I actually believe there is a way, but you need to have a very good reason for it. Anyways, since you didn't edit your own pages with the IP address, it is very difficult to tie your IP address to your username. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If you are worried about your privacy, you can request a user with oversight to remove it (See Wikipedia:Requests for oversight). However, if you want to re-attribute the edit from your IP to your account, this can't be done. As Xenon54 said, it used to be possible but not anymore. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 05:00, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

As long as you don't go back and update signatures on talk pages, there is no way for anyone but a checkuser to tie your IP to your account. See WP:LOGGEDOUT. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Others may still be able to guess a likely connection between your IP and account by comparing edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:22, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Can't find project page

Resolved

The other day I stumbled a project page that included a list of issues (disputes, RfC, policy decisions, etc.) that were currently open. Now I can't find it. I remember the Rorschach test images issue was listed as well as a discussion about creating more arbitration committees. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Sorry, I can't be more specific. I should have bookmarked the page when I found it. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 03:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard? Hardtofindaname 03:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

No, but that page lead me to WP:VPR which is the page I was thinking of. Thank you very much for your help. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 03:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You may be thinking specifically of Template:Cent which is transcluded on WP:VPR and other pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hang on

Please advise specific instructions to add a "hang on" message to an "instant deletion" notice. While the message instructs the need to add such a comment, there are no details as to how to do it. Your help is appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.117.12 (talk) 07:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It has instructions to add the hangon tag, and a user who has created a new page knows how to edit pages in general. But on the other hand, instructions are very rarely too detailed. Kotiwalo (talk) 07:50, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Simply add {{hangon}} below the speedy deletion notice on the page. TNXMan 11:51, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

And note you also have to give a reason on the article talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Can I add a line saying our company has not reviewed this?

Hi,

MSCI Barra and its products and services are mentioned all over Wikipedia. And although we love Wikipedia and what it stands for, as a company we have chosen to use our resources for constantly improving our products rather than for reviewing things other people may write about us, even if copied from our publications. Is it ok to add a line to an article saying 'MSCI Barra has not reviewed this article'?

Kind regards, Nele Van der borght MSCI Barra Marketing Team —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.66.97.168 (talk) 09:20, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is for encyclopedic text not review so the line would not look appropriate. If you see any concerns please mention them on the talk page of the article and people should jump in. I believe there are some instances where you are able to remove info if it is not sourced and included only to be blatantly malicious. Please see WP:COIC and the rest of the linked page for informaiton.

The article should also be based on reliable secondary sources (WP:RS) so some information may not meet branding guidelines.Cptnono (talk) 09:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

(after edit conflict) I think there are two separate issues here - Wikipedia is written collaboratively by its users, and no one user (or person) "owns" or "approves" content in articles. Therefore, you have no role in "reviewing" material written about your company (although we welcome contributions from you, as long as you keep in mind that Wikipedia is not meant for promotion of your company - please see Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations).

The second point concerns material copied from your publications - unless you have released your publications under a CC-BY-SA license (see Wikipedia:Copyrights), then that material should not be on Wikipedia if it's a verbatim copy. Could you point us to such material, so that we may review it for its suitability for inclusion in Wikipedia?

I hope this helps to answer your question. — QuantumEleven 09:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You are editing from an IP address belonging to your company and Special:Contributions/195.66.97.168 shows some problematic edits about the company. I don't know whether it was you or somebody else at the company but please see the above links and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

August 13

Article I created MUST BE DELETED

I created an article, A New Chapter (Rogue Traders album). It must be deleted, because the Rogue's upcoming album is definately not going to be called 'A New Chapter'. It is creating a large problem, because it is untrue and inaccurate. PLEASE DELETE IT! Preceding unsigned comment left by The Rogue Leader (talk | contribs ) 09:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It is now deleted and was never a good article subject per WP:CRYSTAL.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Can I just point out to The Rogue Leader that this post dated Aug 3 2009, 01:15 PM from James Ash Trader (band member) states that the working title is ROGUE 4, so you could have just changed the title A New Chapter in the article, and then moved the article to Rogue 4, especially as the article has clearly shown that it was a future album (and details subject to change) and that this was a working title anyway. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

how do I send a page to a friend?

how do I send a page to a friend?Ronniesouthport (talk) 10:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Copy the URL of the Wikipedia page you wish to share and distribute this to your friend. — JamesR (talk) @ 10:23, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If you want it to be a specific version of the page (i.e. without later edits), then in the toolbox on the left, click on Permanent link if it is available, and then send the URL for the resulting webpage, which will say something like: "This is the current revision of this page, as edited by Phantomsteve (talk | contribs) at 11:29, 12 August 2009. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this version." or "This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Phantomsteve (talk | contribs) at 11:27, 12 August 2009. It may differ significantly from the current revision.". -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

best school

what country having a good quality standard of education? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.6.181.153 (talk) 11:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Try our reference desk, this is for editing questions only. Kotiwalo (talk) 11:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Delete account

I would like to delete my account. Is that possible? If not, can I at least change my username?

Thanks,

Donna Kishbaugh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnakishbaugh (talk • contribs) 12:03, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be deleted but usernames can be changed. See Wikipedia:Right to vanish. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If you simply want a new username, and since you essentially have no edits - you could stop using your current username and create a new one; alternately you can request to have your name changes. See the implications over at Wikipedia:Changing username. Tiggerjay (talk) 14:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Change the name of a Wikipedia page

Hi, I'm trying to change the name of the Everest Catholic High School page.

I need the page to say Everest Academy and High School. We have technically changed out name by taking the catholic out of it and this needs to be reflected in the title of our page.

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cniemiec (talk • contribs) 15:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I see you've already done it! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Title Editing

How do I edit the title of a wikipedia article i have created? Spelling mistake basically.

Tenacious beck (talk) 17:11, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You rename an article by actually moving it. See WP:MOVE. hmwitht 17:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You can't yet, as your account isn't old enough and hasn't made enough edits. I've moved the page for you. Algebraist 17:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

In the future, you can use WP:Requested moves. However, you will soon be autoconfirmed, and you will be able to move pages on your own. hmwitht 18:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

substantiate notability

How do I submit material that verifies notability if the material is not available online. How may I submit scanned documents to you? thank you. Pregina (talk) 17:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Please see our policy on reliable sources. There is not requirement that a source be online. It can be any reliable newspaper, magazine, or other pubished reliable secondary source. -Arch dude (talk) 17:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I wish to emphasize the "published" part, though. If you've got a copy of somebody's birth certificate or something, that's not a published source and fails as a reliable source. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

pls help me with my password

Hi, I am not sure whether I provided an email address in my wiki account, with user name = jbehera. password i am not able to recollect now and I am not able to get it via email address because when I click on that button saying "Email new password", i get an error saying :

Login errorError sending mail: There is no e-mail address recorded for user "Jbehera"

I am fed up with this problem for months now. Please help me in gettin a new password via my email.

Thanks, Jitendra. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.237.207 (talk) 18:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If there is no email address listed and you cannot remember your password, there is no way to get it back. Your best bet is to register a new account. Sorry about that.TNXMan 19:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi TNX, Is there any timeout period, after which the user id is deleted from the wiki database, because of inactivity?

Thanks, Jitendra. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.237.207 (talk) 19:09, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Accounts are never deleted, and since you didn't attach an email address with the account there is no way to recover it. The account just made three minor edits though; why not just create another one? --59.95.101.61 (talk) 19:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, You're right in suggesting that, but you know, I am kinda nostalgic to my old user name :-) which takes after my initials. I make minor changes only. Well, I will think about creating a new one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.237.207 (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Question about duplication of material

Does it violate any Wiki policy and/or guidelines to duplicate an entire section from one Wiki page, and add it verbatim (word-for-word) to another Wiki page. I ask this because a page was protected by an adminstrator (due to an edit war), and an editor took the entire duputed section and moved it to another page (verbatim) thus bypassing the ptotection and igniting another edit war. Are you aware of any specific Wiki guidelines that prevent this kind of behavior 72.165.90.110 (talk) 19:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)