Talk:Stolen Generations

Adelaide Sun

I can find no other reference to "Adelaide Sun", other than the quoted cite. My guess is it's a reference to the Sunday Mail (Adelaide), but changing it, especially because it is referenced, would be OR. Mark Hurd (talk) 08:18, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

State Library of SA had trouble finding the Sun too, but see refs added. It would be OR to dig out the clipping and verify the exact quote, but a search on the mother's name revels extensive data on Priscilla Karpany and baby Manuel. Perhaps others will be motivated to do the OR and publish it, so I have left the query (so far as it concerns the exact words quoted)as it stood. Keepitshort (talk) 13:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Search re Adelaide Sun or The Sun goes like this. (Query): "A (probably) related event can be found at: [1] The reference is around p 145: (iv) C. E. Taplin, Honorary Protector of Aborigines to Chief Protector of Aborigines, Flinders Street, Adelaide, April 21 1924. Dear Sir My attention has been drawn to the case of the native girl – Precilla Karpany – having her baby, nine months old, taken away from her under the provisions of the Aborigines Act passed last year. Also to the report of the occurrence, with severe comments thereon, published in “The Adelaide Sun” of April 12th. The tenor of that article makes a vivid criticism of the gross inhumanity of such a ruthless, and cruel administration of the Act. That a woman should have her own baby recklessly dragged from her arms, and taken entirely away from her, at the behest of a Government Official, because some female inspectress thought the mother an unsuitable guardian, is shocking to contemplate. What does the female official know of the right way to treat an aboriginal baby? As a matter of fact I have taken this young native woman into my own home, and find her clean and well behaved. Not at all such a character as might be expected to illtreat her own child. .....

This suggests 1924 as the date, rather than 1923. I can find no reference to a newspaper of this name on (The State Library of South Australia) site, and only one at the NLA newspaper collection, namely a reference of to the Adelaide “Sun” losing a libel case in 1924, reported in the Melbourne Argus."

(Reply - in part- says) "Sands & McDougall's South Australian directory for 1924 has a listing for 'Sun (The), Adelaide, Saturday (midnight)' in the Mercantile directory listing for Newspapers but there is no listing in the 1923 and 1925 directories indicating that the Sun may have been shortlived and that it may not have survived the £200 damages claim for libel awarded to plaintiff Clifford Otto Roennfeldt, musician of 9 Rundle Street Adelaide (Argus, 19 Jan. 1924, p. 34 [p. 32 according to Index to "The Argus"] ). ... Australian Securities & Investments Commission Index of corporate and business names lists Sun newspaper(Melbourne),Deregistered 28/03/1927 and THE SUN NEWSPAPER CO. LIMITED (Vic.) Deregistered 30/06/1915 but not Sun (Adelaide) although there is an Adelaide Sun Limited(SA), Deregistered 12/12/1940. The article "A newspaper sued"(Advertiser, p. 19 columns (c) - (d), 19/1/1924) names "the persons who are co-partners in the firm for the purposes of proceedings against them...[as] Thomas Alfred Humble of Fullarton - retired farmer; John McKellar Giles of Blackwood, journalist and Walter George Jones, of Willowie, pastoralist..." also naming Mr Giles as the editor who wrote the article. Also mentioned in the article are Archibald Alfred Thomas of Glenelg and Hugh Charles Howie of Goodwood Park, journalists of the Adelaide Sun. I am sorry that I have not been able to track issues of the Sun for you and hope that one or another of the suggested approaches above will lead you to a more detailed account of Ms Karpany's mistreatment. The State Library of South Australia maintains a listing of local newspapers we would like to microfilm for preservation purposes and if by any chance you do locate copies of this paper we would appreciate it if you could let (the) Coordinator of our Preservation Services Team, know where copies can be found." Keepitshort (talk) 13:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Excellent sleuthwork Keepitshort! Your last paragraph leaves no doubt that the Adelaide Sun was a real paper, however short-lived, so I've removed the {{verification needed}} tag. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 03:24, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Mixed race

If these policies applied only to biracial people, why doesn't the lead say that? When I read it, I thought it meant only "full" Aboriginal and TSI children were taken away. 76.246.149.144 (talk) 00:32, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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Dont Forget the truth re stolen generation

Please remember to balance reports re the stolen generation with the true fact that many of the children taken from aboriginal parents were neglected and in fact close to death. The second born of twins for example was often left to another tribe member to be cared for as the mother was only able to carry one child when on walkabout. Many nursing sisters and police officers from regional areas were concerned regarding the health of these children as they arrived close to death to be treated for various medical conditions. Some children would present 2 or 3 times and when this happened the nursing staff would approach the local police officer to take the child to provide better care. I have no doubt that some children were given less than adequate care but so were many white children also in care at that time. There seems to be little balance to reports of the stolen generations. There is a need to report the fact that many of the "stolen generation" in fact owe their lives to the well meaning intervention of caring nurses and police from remote areas of our great country. Don't take my word for this go and talk to retired nurses and police who worked in the remote parts of Australia. You may be surprised at what you learn. Kerry Young