Talk:Batman: Arkham Asylum

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World Record

Apparently the game has set a Guinness World Record for most critically acclaimed super-hero game created. I'm adding this. Link —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylan1122 (talk • contribs) 07:40, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't we update this?

The game's out, we should put the proper villains list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.239.25.18 (talk) 18:06, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

If someone who knows how to cite the game can list them all, then yes. But be patient. It's only been out a day. --Teancum (talk) 18:10, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

There's already full game footage on youtube. 76.239.25.18 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:29, 26 August 2009 (UTC).

Well I can't speak for everyone else, but I'm not going to watch hours of footage just to update a Wiki article. --Teancum (talk) 18:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

You can really go through and remove the whole box and cover them in the plot section: Zsasz, Bane, Killer Croc, Ivy, Scarecrow, Harley (barely), and Joker are the game's villains/bosses. The rest are either not there but mentioned, not at all, or just giving easter egg bits (to elaborate for example, Ra's is a corpse that vanishes when the game ends, Riddler's impact is that he leaves clues all over the game to collect, and Mr. Freeze has a viewable profile if you check his cell).

The table could be done away with, let the plot section handle it.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 07:20, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

please put the credits in like mark hammill etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.7.253 (talk) 18:22, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

All of the 'big actors' are mentioned in the Development section, but per WP:GAMECRUFT we shouldn't put in a voice cast list. You can find a listing at IMDB (Internet Movie Database --also for games) in the External Links section where you can see all the cast. --Teancum (talk) 18:37, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, according to that article, there should be a voice cast list because the voices are notable.96.243.250.120 (talk) 03:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but they are already mentioned in the Development section, so they are covered per that article. --Teancum (talk) 11:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Accusations of Review fixing by RamRaider

Umm, should this even be included on the page? It was barely out in the press and at this time it seems like little more than an un-verified and un-substantiated accusation by a blogger who comes across as "I like to be mad for its own sake". The page shouldn't include every accusation about every product released, even if the company did respond officially. HunterZero (talk) 21:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. I'll take it out, it did seem sortof like a "bitter old gamer" statement. --Teancum (talk) 18:08, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Ending Scene

It says that Bane appears and grabs a box of Titan at the end. From my experience, I saw Scarecrow's hand appear and grab the Titan. Has anyone else seen this?--72.95.250.102 (talk) 15:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

It appears that different villans will appear and grab the box based on the difficulty the player beats the game on.Easy,normal,and hard for Bane,Scarecrow,and Killer croc respectively.--173.71.63.193 (talk) 16:16, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Since that's the case we should probably remove it. Truthfully it's a spoiler anyways, we don't want to give it away :P --Teancum (talk) 16:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it's random anyways. I beat it on normal and it showed me Bain instead of Scarecrow.96.243.250.120 (talk) 17:48, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

We don't concern ourselves with spoilers, Teancum. If a reader doesnt' want to know, they shouldn't be reading here. ThuranX (talk) 18:21, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

True, irregardless listing multiple endings isn't necessary when we can merely mention that the ending changes based on difficulty, or not mention it at all. --Teancum (talk) 18:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I beat it on Hard and Bane reach up to grab it not Croc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.238.75.75 (talk) 07:35, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

There are three different scenes, and it appears to be random: either Bane, Croc or Scarecrow will grab the box of Titan formula. Difficulty is apparently unrelated to which you get in this case.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 13:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

So how -or- should we include that in the plot section? I'm leaning towards no, but am open to opinion. --Teancum (talk) 14:18, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Let's just say that as Batman flies away from Arkham, a randomized appearance of Bane, Killer Croc, or Scarecrow grabs the box of the Titan formula.64.85.234.166 (talk) 12:35, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Characters

Do not remove the characters section. All information about which characters appear or are referenced should be here, not in all the character articles. This is the article about the game, and we don't need 4k of plot explosion in each character article. Find more sources, find voice actor credits, and interviews, there are enough to build the section with real-world material, but removing it doesn't improve the article at all. ThuranX (talk) 18:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

We have note of the major voice actors in the Development section, maybe we should move that to the characters section. I also pruned out the bio/riddler mentions of villains into one statement. --Teancum (talk) 18:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Plot

The article states that after Joker attacked Blackgate Prison, Batman captured him. I thought the original attack was on the Mayors office, and later we find out a mysterious fire caused the transfer of Blackgate prisoners? --Gimpy (talk) 03:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly! The Manual says that, and Commissioner Gordon, when Joker escapes, mentions the attack on the Mayor's Office, this should be changed. Alec92 (talk) 16:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

That is correct. Joker did not attack the prison. Also, the plot states that Dr. Young dies from a bomb planted in her office, but the bomb was actually in the Warden's office. Austinrh (talk) 17:06, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

The new plot "trim" is far too vauge and very poorly worded. Revert back to previous plot. Austinrh (talk) 19:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the initial start. However, I will point out that there is not a lot that happens plot-wise with this game - it is not a "deep" story. Yes, Batman battles Croc, Scarecrow, etc. etc., but those characters have little to no impact on the core plot - Joker getting and using the Titan drug. As we don't summarize a work point-by-point, we can summarize out most of those encounters to the few that are necessary. --MASEM (t) 20:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

someone needs to fix the part that states that Croc's arm grabs the crate of Titan, it was Scarecrow not Croc. Osiris 4:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Look at the "Ending Scene" discussion above. It randomly shows Scarecrow, Croc, or Bane grabbing the Titan.--96.236.168.251 (talk) 21:13, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Masem, I agree that the plot should not be a point-by-point summary, but I would still argue that it would be to the interest of most readers to include the enemies he encounters and in what capacity. I still think the plot is too vauge. Austinrh (talk) 21:47, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

You've got the enemies listed below - including the distinction between which ones are actually fought verses those that are referred. To try to explain, for example, the confrontation with Croc, is a lot of extra text that is largely unnecessary when all that really happens is : Batman collects sports from Titan-invested plants from Croc's lair. Even that line is extraneous. But, I do understand a bit, so let me add a bit to the characters section that may make that better. --MASEM (t) 21:51, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, much better. Austinrh (talk) 22:51, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking for the beginning, what do you guys think about it starting like this? "After a seemingly random attack on Gotham City's Mayor's Office by The Joker ... " In beginning of the game they placed emphasis on the fact that it indeed was a "Random" attack on The Mayor's Office. Just a suggestion. Alec92 (talk) 23:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)