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On the basis of other articles on musical matters, I had debated referring music students to wikipedia for introductions to composers and topics. Having just read the Debussy article I realise I was mistaken. It seems out of touch with scholarship on the composer. It happily throws around the compromised concept of 'impressionism' without acknowledging that it has been challeneged repeatedly by scholars over a long period. The material from Reti about musical style is so superficial as to be worthless. And the notion that Debussy developed his musical language free from Wagner is nonsense, as Holloway and others have demonstrated. The artctile is also pitifully short. It has a long way to go before it could replace even some of the most modest single-volume dictionaries of music.
On the basis of other articles on musical matters, I had debated referring music students to wikipedia for introductions to composers and topics. Having just read the Debussy article I realise I was mistaken. It seems out of touch with scholarship on the composer. It happily throws around the compromised concept of 'impressionism' without acknowledging that it has been challeneged repeatedly by scholars over a long period. The material from Reti about musical style is so superficial as to be worthless. And the notion that Debussy developed his musical language free from Wagner is nonsense, as Holloway and others have demonstrated. The artctile is also pitifully short. It has a long way to go before it could replace even some of the most modest single-volume dictionaries of music.

:You may wish to familiarize yourself more with Wikipedia. For one, please [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages]]. You may find more information at [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers]]. [[User:Hyacinth|Hyacinth]] 09:36, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

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Horribly wrong

Its so depressing to see such a terrifyingly bad article attached to my favorite composer! something went terribly wrong and messed up the orginization in the article.

Time to remove the cleanup notice?

The article is better, but is it good enough?--Deadworm222 18:36, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Influences?

The article says "Influences", but I always thought that influences meant that you are inspired by someone else's ideas. The things listed in the Influences-part seem more like stylistic characteristics to me. So I'm going to change the title, but if someone has a reason to revert or something, I won't object, of course.--Deadworm222 20:42, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Further additions

yesterday i tried to fix up the page a little without insulting the previous editer. I have added a little orginization, and plan to continue... But in regards to the suggested reading or a debussy in pop culture... dont hesitate to add it yourself! I plan on adding this section about pop culture right away, i hope, Mr. Veil that you wont be offended if i use your words directly. (i cant give you credit, but i would if i could) anyway, if you want to edit it, do so... so long as you're confident you're improving the page.

Please pay attention to spelling: organization (Am. Eng. spelling), and editor. Myscha Aiken 15:41, 14 Dec 2005 (GMT)

It would be interesting to have a section on this topic. For example, the theme song to Jack Horkheimer's syndicated weekly TV series, "Star Gazer" (used to be called "Star Hustler") is a synth version of Debussy's "Arabesque #1", performed by Isao Tomita. --Thomas Veil 18:45, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

== Suggested reading == like whatever like totally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps add a Suggested reading section? Roger Nichols' Debussy Remembered (Amadeus Press, 1992, ISBN 0931340411 cased, 093134042X paper) contains some excellent character-portraits of the composer which also touch upon the music, to start with. Schissel : bowl listen 13:05, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

Table of Contents

When I read the Debussy article just now, I felt like he wasn't done justice with the slightly rambling format of the article. It would be nice to see someone clean up the article and organize it into different sections with a table of contents, i.e. introduction; biography; music; style; presence in pop culture, etc.

I agree, the article is in dire need of re-structuring and adding more inforation, other than his music...--Deadworm222 19:27, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

limitations of Debussy article

On the basis of other articles on musical matters, I had debated referring music students to wikipedia for introductions to composers and topics. Having just read the Debussy article I realise I was mistaken. It seems out of touch with scholarship on the composer. It happily throws around the compromised concept of 'impressionism' without acknowledging that it has been challeneged repeatedly by scholars over a long period. The material from Reti about musical style is so superficial as to be worthless. And the notion that Debussy developed his musical language free from Wagner is nonsense, as Holloway and others have demonstrated. The artctile is also pitifully short. It has a long way to go before it could replace even some of the most modest single-volume dictionaries of music.

You may wish to familiarize yourself more with Wikipedia. For one, please Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. You may find more information at Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers. Hyacinth 09:36, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]