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Marx01, I am glad you realized that your comment to the IP were [[WP:BITE|bitey]] and inappropriate, and have apologized. IMO the dispute should end at this point. A quick note: You should not strike out or edit other users' comments from talk pages or noticeboards, as you did [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=317754592&oldid=317754042 here], except under very narrow exceptions outlined in the [[WP:TPG|talk page guidelines]]; I assume this was a simple oversight and am adding this note just for future reference. Happy editing! [[User:Abecedare|Abecedare]] ([[User talk:Abecedare|talk]]) 01:36, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Marx01, I am glad you realized that your comment to the IP were [[WP:BITE|bitey]] and inappropriate, and have apologized. IMO the dispute should end at this point. A quick note: You should not strike out or edit other users' comments from talk pages or noticeboards, as you did [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=317754592&oldid=317754042 here], except under very narrow exceptions outlined in the [[WP:TPG|talk page guidelines]]; I assume this was a simple oversight and am adding this note just for future reference. Happy editing! [[User:Abecedare|Abecedare]] ([[User talk:Abecedare|talk]]) 01:36, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the barnstar.
:Yes, we all make mistakes sometimes, and that's fine as long as we are ready to admit the errors and apologize, and also forgive others when their conduct is non-ideal. After all we are here to enjoy and contribute to the project and not to stress ourselves or others. Cheers. [[User:Abecedare|Abecedare]] ([[User talk:Abecedare|talk]]) 01:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

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Misc.

Hey, I was wondering, do you really have a hidden page? And... why does the question mark after your request to find your hidden page lead to a random article? EvangelineTalk 14:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly is challenging. So far, I haven't found it yet. :) EvangelineTalk 01:35, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE: New article

Its looking good. You should look at other medical articles to find a good structure for your article. I am very glad that you are using references. To get it to a B-class, you need to add an appropriate infobox and more content. You've made a brilliant start, Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 13:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations!!

Congratulations! Neutralizing antibody is now a B-class article. You can expand it further and ask for help at Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine to get it to an A-class article, or leave it as it is and start a new article. Then again you don't have to do either! Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 20:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tasks

I'm haven't set you a task because I wanted you to improve your article. Now though, I would like you to use your knowledge gained from the adoption program so far to improve random articles. I know that you have been doing some vandalism removal which is good, but wikipedia also needs other types of looking after such as grammar and formatting. If you could edit and improve a few articles, that would be great. Just bring a few stubs up to start class would do. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 20:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That would be great, I'll be stalking your contributions over the next week so I can rate them! Good luck, Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 20:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thank you very much for the barnstar; it is much appreciated! — Kralizec! (talk) 21:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Article Question

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I know what I'm doing

I'm the one who added that part into the article, but I forgot to translate it. Tra is the fish's name in Vietnamese. Look at vi:Cá tra, cá means fish. And the link to en.wiki is shark catfish. 98.119.158.59 (talk) 07:23, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Canes II Group

The table does seem very long. You should ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Astronomy whether it is too long. You should add some more content to that article if you want to get it to start class as well. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 10:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ACC Tool

Someone, probably you, requested access to the account creation tool. For security purposes could you please confirm that it was you who made the request so we can approve you, thanks. FunPika 13:32, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I requested the account creation tool. Marx01 Tell me about it 02:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Book Space Around Us

First off let me say that's a nice collection of articles you've compiled in Space Around Us.

Just a friendly note to point out that books like this one don't really belong in article categories such as Category:Astronomy. The proper place for books on astronomy is Category:Wikipedia:Books on astronomy (which is itself part of Category:Astronomy), or even Category:Wikipedia:User page Books on astronomy (doesn't exist yet but it would be a sub-category of Category:Wikipedia:User page Books on Natural sciences), since it's in your user space.

Hope that makes sense to you. Thanks and keep up the good work. Cosmo0 (talk) 23:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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RE:Suggest Bot

Haha... yeah. I have not a single idea about the topics given. Does it think I'm from Europe or what? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bejinhan (talk • contribs) 03:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Barnstar

Hey! Thanks for the barnstar. It was totally unexpected. Thank you! BejinhanTalk 03:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah... I decided to put my rollback rights into use. :) But now I want to focus more on the content of articles. Thanks, again. BejinhanTalk 04:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Sure... I don't mind teaming up. Does Wikipedia has a list of start-class articles? BejinhanTalk 05:42, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't you choose the article then we can work on it? BejinhanTalk 05:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Festivalism sounds like a good article to write. Once you start it, let me know. I'll help out. BejinhanTalk 06:09, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Working on it. :) BejinhanTalk 06:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, ok. Sorry... my mistake. BejinhanTalk 09:53, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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RE:Cite

You're welcome. Btw, just a thought... do you believe in festivalism? BejinhanTalk 06:36, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think the orphan tag on the place should still be there? There seems to be a considerable amount of links there now. BejinhanTalk 09:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No.... no. I think your writing is fine. I was just curious because after reading halfway through the Festivalism WHAT IS IT article I realized that it has links to Ahimsa and I have some reservations with that.
Oh,ok. I was just wondering because I thought it meant internal/external links. BejinhanTalk 09:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article states that it is rooted in Ahimsa so I suppose it is a part of it. One more question... I was wondering if Festivalism could be tagged as an ideology stub instead of a politics stub? What do you think? BejinhanTalk 03:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is no ideology stub. How do I create a template so that there can be an ideology stub? BejinhanTalk 03:59, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's alright. I've been looking for the category create page myself but no success so far. BejinhanTalk 04:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I found this page]. I think we'll have to propose the category first before we can create it. Are you game for it? BejinhanTalk 04:20, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, can you please go here? There is something you have to do. Thanks! BejinhanTalk 04:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've already created a proposal. BejinhanTalk 04:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ACC

Hello Marx! Be sure to reserve the open request before you create the account next time. Let me know if you have any questions, MatthewYeager 03:41, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Editor Review

Thanks for the very helpful suggestions in my editor review, I appreciate it. In the future, I will work to raise my edit count by making solid edits and articles in order to reach my goal to become an admin. Once again, thank you!

Ojay123 (talk) 14:27, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bio

Marx01, how do I post my Bio to Wikepedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Docdiggi (talk • contribs) 02:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Userpage

Not really. I got it from here. I found the Wikipedia:User_page_design_center quite an interesting one. Lots of user page template ideas. Anyway, I'm still not entirely satisfied with my page yet so I've ask help from a user page renovator to help me with my user page. I've already been spending too much time working on it. :) BejinhanTalk 01:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that you are venturing into adoption. That's cool! BejinhanTalk 01:53, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've created a new article(Kenneth Rush). Can I have your opinion on it? Thanks! BejinhanTalk 03:32, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't. Thanks! I actually did not want to start an article but while browsing through recent changes, I noticed that an article on Kenneth Rush was requested. I googled him and found quite a number of articles on him. It was purely impulsiveness on my part,lol. That would be great! Please let me know if it can be improved. BejinhanTalk 07:18, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments. I actually got the facts for the sentences that I put in the [citation needed] template from the same article with the rest and I purposely put it in so that if others come across another site, they can put it in making it a more credible article with different references. SmackBot edited my article and you created the John N Irwin article so there is no longer any red links. And I've removed some of the templates so I think it should be B-class by now. Once again, thanks for reviewing my article. Appreciate it! BejinhanTalk 09:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bubble Tea

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RE:Various

That's ok. I myself stole it from the UPDC. :) Which areas do you think need to be expanded? And, how did you archive your talk page? I'm thinking of archiving mine as it is getting too long. BejinhanTalk 03:38, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. I'll expand the article later. BejinhanTalk 03:51, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The web doesn't seem to have much info about Kenneth Rush. I just can't find any additional info about Kenneth Rush's family or later life. BejinhanTalk 01:49, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks! BejinhanTalk 03:55, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption

(In response to the Adoption post on my page) That would be great if I could be your adoptee. We do seem to have several common interests, and I do have several questions about how things work on Wikipedia (Mainly my experience has been limited to fixing typos and vandalism, or a few minor formatting errors.). Anyways, thanks, would love to. --Matthew Desjardins 18:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, adoption would be great! I'm not terribly active, but I think that may be just because I'm being cautious. I think someone experienced helping out would be great! Wedgiey1 (talk) 21:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. I think I'm mostly good for general editing stuff, but it's probably good to start me from the beginning to make sure I didn't skip over some stuff. Thanks, can't wait. --Matthew Desjardins 22:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(Response to Optional Task thing) Thanks, I'll just need a bit to think of something that doesn't already exist on the userbox list. Also, is there going to be something more planned for the tables page, or do you want me to just go over the help page for it? --Matthew Desjardins 23:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, just curious. --Matthew Desjardins 23:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the Userbox offer. I have one that I already have but would like to make several tweaks to; the Rubik's Cube one is nice, but the way the speedcubing link appears when visited (purple) makes it difficult to read with the background (green). I am trying to make my own, but I have a question about how you create a user-set parameter (for example, in my Rubik's Cube one, I can set the time displayed on the box). Also, is it possible to create two of those parameters-type things? --Matthew Desjardins 16:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I've been looking through some examples, and think I have it. Sorry... Thanks very much, though. --Matthew Desjardins 23:32, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll try to keep going. Hope you're feeling better some time soon. --Matthew Desjardins 20:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(Re to rollback) Thanks. Yeah, I've been using Twinkle, but I'm trying Huggle out right now (a bit confusing, but fast to use). I haven't done the stub upgrade yet; I've only just found one that I have direct experience on. But I'll get to it. --Matthew Desjardins 19:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adoptee? Honored to.

After looking over your talk page, I'm honored to accept your offer to be my Wikipedia Mentor. Thank you very much, and talk to you later.

Comment: Your username: Marx and Ohbeewan are both interested in "progress". My username is Cpiral, and that is interested in direction. i.e. we good pair, eh?

I imagine my first assignment will be to improve my user page, make it more me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpiral (talk • contribs) 22:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I joined wikiproject Outines of Knowledge.
I'm in too deep, not knowing if you are here. Be There Do That (talk) 23:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
By that I meant I'd joined a wikiproject I knew little about: Outlines (of Knowledge).
I'm in too deep if I know to little.
OTOH, On the Job Training is not "too deep", but sized to benefit both parties.
Quiply now, after perusing userbox lists, and finding few for a fine fit, 'twould seem the following:
 "This Contributor used to User"
is, for me, a sufficiently unique and true statement of my state.
However, as I now see you tasked me, I will pick some userboxes and put them on my home page.
Be There Do That (talk) 15:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've done much toward learning Wikipedia!

A tasteful, professional, respectable Wikipedian complimented me on the essay you asked me to write!

Please be patient with my CITE task. I have recently been doing many CITES but none qualified for your assignment. CpiralCpiral 00:21, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


It , citing, and many other things. I have been devoting entirely too much time to Wikipedia as far as my priorities in this reality must be

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RE:Adopter

I think I might be able to. I've completed part way of writing my adoption program. I'll leave a note at the user's talk page. Thanks! BejinhanTalk 02:59, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tip. My adoption page(which is still under construction) is User:Bejinhan/Adoption/Beginner. Can you please do me a favor by taking a look at it and letting me know what needs to be improve? Thanks! BejinhanTalk 03:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Noted. Thanks very much! BejinhanTalk 03:17, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:

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Good job

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For all your hard work in reverting vandalism! BejinhanTalk 13:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wedgiey1's Procedure Essay

5 Pillars

The 5 Pillars are very nice. They are short, concise, and easy to understand. For the most part I agree with them 100%; however, due to personal reasons, I am distraught that there is no room for information gleaned from interviews with witnesses or certified experts in a particular field. The only option a person has to make this information available to the masses would be by getting an interview published by a local newspaper. Probably not impossible, but quite a bit of work. I find the 'assume good faith' idea especially poignant and appropriate.

Manual of Style

The manual of style section is a beast of a exercise in teaching basic grammar. I think it needs a summary section that reads, "Do what your high school English teacher taught you." It is clear that a lot of time and effort went into creating that page, which is unfortunate, because I doubt it has been read by very many. Glancing through some of it, it is useful, quality information; however, it 'should' be largely unnecessary. I imagine most people will simply edit with good faith styling and wait on some of the more pickier users to come through and spruce it up, which I hope most people find completely acceptable.

Be Bold

The *Be Bold* article is what makes Wikipedia possible I think; at least the idea behind it is. The more people you have editing, the faster your content builds. Even if someone doesn't do very well citing their sources, someone else can come a long and do so, make it cleaner, re-format, add here, tweak there, and with enough people, in the end you get a very nice looking article. The more the merrier I say! Also, the articles inclusions of a "in a nutshell" header is great! Manual of style needs one!

The Copyright section was really interesting. I was actually surprised at how much Wikipedia can get away with due to the circumstance in which they're using copyrighted material. I followed some of the internal links to read more on this topic, as I was very interested in the use of logos. The fact that Wikipedia provides a very nice and easy to use copyright blurb {{non-free logo}} is terribly convenient and easy on its users.

Wedgiey1 (talk) 18:46, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A tour de style

Please discuss these, for any reason, directly with the actual author. Press the discussion tab at the top of the page.

Collaborative Style

Collaboration software could be a new, governing, tool of democracy. It's being watched by the millions, and soon to be billions. Let's see how one "Wikipedia" displays its collaborated style, how it pans out, and let's see how their "voting" affected the content of four key articles.

Five Pillars

The Five pillars page is highly compact--almost screen-sized. Yum. Icons start sentences. The starting phrase of sentences a link five or six words long. A language box offers 260 languages. It is notworthy that when viewing other languages, the icon remains the same, but the linking has changed dramatically, as has the wording and paragraph size and aesthetic style. (Apparently many many tongues need MediaWiki, and don't need to be told the Five Pillars of collaborating online before they start contributing because, even without that tongue's Five Pillars article being as polished as the English version, they can "somehow" have many more articles than their Five pillars could seem to hold up.) Five Pillars is page-fit, iconic, simple, edible, and in English, the article repeats a theme and a style about how to write right: be moral, be supportable. The many hands polishing the page shows up in many places, but I noticed the six shortcuts arranged not in alphabetical order, but in hourglass; the constant tick of period and comma punctuation, partitioning-out perfectly compacted and polished prose, linked heavily, but linked in consideration of those readers who are scanning quickly. The links are easy to understand if you wish, and thus hide the subtle fact that any link is an invitation to complexity. A modicum of "easy and simple" the Five Pillars article's "simplified rules" link says that rule 12 is "ignore all rules".

The Edit warring policy document has a style fitting for its subject. It is not plain, direct, unambiguous, or specific, (despite policy and guideline style), but neither is a person who wisely practices "keep your enemies close". It has an unclear terminology and a harsh style. This is no doubt because the setting is the dust and smoke of war and wikilawyering. It starts off with saber rattling, and goes on in a style meant to thwart wikilawyering.

Manual of Style

Manual of style is wordy and long, unlike Five pillars. Because style refers to word style, wordiness and length is highly appropriate and acceptable here. Even so, the content per section is limited to managable chunks. Subpages hide intimidating volumes of information, yet keeps it "on the level" with the body of text, as a sidebar. Readers happily begin a perilous journey of "only twenty-five section"

Notable in the style of the style of styles is that this article starts with

  • a self concept: it is yet another Manual of Style in the field
  • a self categorization: it is a guideline
  • a self reference: use the namespace "Wikipedia:" to locate the manual of style
  • a self context: it offers an environment for similar need: an editing index

Recursively speaking, all these are good examples of style by example in a style manual. And it ends with 'six' sections of fashion: Links, Misc., Notes, Further Reading...

Be Bold

The "Be Bold" Wikipedia off with yet another kind of banner--an "If you're Lost" signpost, complete with a set of possible intended destinations for these cyber-folk . It has the usual Guidelines box, but it also has something unique: a logo for the article frames the lead paragraph with the Guidelines box. The style of the Be Bold article is bold. I would not, until now, have dared to start a section title with an ellipsis, the way it displays "...but please be careful". The page is so often degraded it has three times the average number of watchers.

Copyright is colorful, like the colorful and dangerous creatures in nature. It uses a light pink background to attract attention. The page is locked, with the obvious icon, and the normal "edit this page" tab is displaying "view source" instead; also there, in the very start of the article is a box containing the often seen words "Changes made to it should reflect consensus." All this beautifully echos a common theme: danger.

Summary

All the articles whose style was reviewed here, have been shaped by many hands over many years. They are also all guides in nature, and supposedly shaped by experts who know the landscape. What is most revealing about this tour of style study is the way the articles style reflects the article's subject in a linguistic relativity. They did not have to prove linguistic relativity, but the article about words' style was wordy, the article about protection was colorful and locked, the article about boldness had a crazy logo, and the article about the foundation was short and wide. These developments are not accidental, although they may have been subconscious; they are a result of the natural mental tendency to find what we seek and to create our own reality.

See also

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Marx01, I was laughing so hard, I think that should be a rule. Don't post something on Wikipedi if you are laughing so hard about it that you feel woozy while you push the button. Wait. Take a deep breath, relax, review... then post. I'm very sorry. And very lucky to have you as a mentor.

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Ummm... what?!

I don't quite know what to make of your recent edits to my talk page. I find them unnecessarily provocative to say the least. 01:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.182.220.102 (talk)

I have reported this to WP:ANI#Totally unprovoked personal attack. 71.182.220.102 (talk) 01:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marx01, I am glad you realized that your comment to the IP were bitey and inappropriate, and have apologized. IMO the dispute should end at this point. A quick note: You should not strike out or edit other users' comments from talk pages or noticeboards, as you did here, except under very narrow exceptions outlined in the talk page guidelines; I assume this was a simple oversight and am adding this note just for future reference. Happy editing! Abecedare (talk) 01:36, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the barnstar.
Yes, we all make mistakes sometimes, and that's fine as long as we are ready to admit the errors and apologize, and also forgive others when their conduct is non-ideal. After all we are here to enjoy and contribute to the project and not to stress ourselves or others. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 01:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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