Talk:America's Next Top Model season 13

Laura

Laura's last name is Kirkpatrick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.135.197 (talk) 18:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

makeovers (spoilers highlight to see).. erin.ice blonde. britanny...dark blonde sundai..graduated bob.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamalshh881 (talk • contribs) 17:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC) Here's a look at some of the girls: http://www.wgntv.com/shows/cw/americasnexttopmodel/wpix-antm13modelvisit,0,7660269.photogallery

3RD EPISODE

it premieres the 16th..not the 9th —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.43.193.105 (talk) 20:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Lulu was the one that said she doesn't pay attention to photographers NOT Ashley

Contestants

I personally think that because we know the contestants' heights from the websites this year that we should get a table like the one Australia's Next Top Model, Cycle 5. It would really spice things up, don't you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.10.116 (talk) 16:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

It would be nice except that it is AusNTM, not ANTM. If you want to make a table, in order to make it coherent with the rest of the articles, I suggest the same be done for all 13 cycles as well, and not just Cycle 13.ZephyrWind (talk) 01:29, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree with ZephyrWind ... MistyWillows ^talk 03:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

A height table would be good for this season, even if it isn't in the others, because this season is focusing on the heights of the contestants. To have the heights in this article would not be weird, even if we do not have the heights in the other articles. Whether we add heights to the others or not, I vote we put heights into this one. Diemunkiesdie (talk) 02:04, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get started this weekend. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.10.116 (talk) 22:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Number

Although Amber withdrew, she is still a contestant of this cycle. That means there are 15 girls. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.22.189.112 (talk) 05:02, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree. She still should be included on the list of contestants on this page as well as the official one. Coinboybrian (talk) 19:29, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, there a logical flaw in that argument. By what standard do you mean "she is still a contestant of this cycle"? If you say since she was called initially to be finalist in the house, then it's not true because in the end she wasn't a finalist anyway, so it's still 14. We need a standard to gauge the no. of contestants, and I suggest that as being the no. of girls who moved into the house as the MAIN cast. I think it would be different if Amber quit at let's say, the makeovers. So I say keep it as 14, or run the fear of ambiguity. ZephyrWind (talk) 07:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't think moving into the house is a reasonable criteria, since Amber does appear in the elimination table, she should be included, ... MistyWillows ^talk 02:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Sorry I shall make myself clearer. I also posted this on the "List of ANTM contestants" discussion page (it's just my opinion, still, at the end of the day)

I feel that Amber shouldn't be an official contestant simply because:

• She never made it into the house to start the main competition, just like all the semi-finalists
• She never had a single promotional photograph taken, and did not appear in any Cycle 13 promotional material
• Her bio isn't even mentioned (even slightly) on the CW website
• She quit (not even eliminated) before the start of the main competition, just like all the other semi-finalists
  

How can then can she be considered an "official" contestant? Food for thought, would the same situation arise if Amber had quit on the spot right after her name was called? What if six girls quit and Tyra called back another six girls? Then the no. of "official" contestants would increase to 20?ZephyrWind (talk)

The contestant was entered as replacement into the competition, but was eliminated

I think it should say AND was eliminated. She was entered as a replacement, then was eliminated later. 86.172.30.65 (talk) 11:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Sourcing

How is an unverifiable post in a public online forum's spoiler thread considered credible sourcing for an encyclopedia entry? Realistically, given the number of NDAs and other contractual binders in place surrounding not-yet-broadcast episodes of reality shows, disclosure by an individual so bound (which would be the only way such information could be known for certain), even if the information turns out to be correct eventually, it's nothing more than speculative until the episode's airdate. As Wikipedia maintains, content must be VERIFIABLE. 70.124.89.116 (talk) 21:37, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Immunity

The colour for immunity may be new to ANTM, but actually, the same thing happened in this years Britains Next Top Model. The colour used there was lightgreen, so I changed it here from yellow to lightgreen. :) (Kyleofark (talk) 17:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC))

This is inconsistent with the earlier consensus to use white on dark colors for uncommon events, and black on light colors for common events ... MistyWillows ^talk 09:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I think it's like in AusNTM, Cycle 4 & 5. Brittany was immune from elimination and won an extra prize, so do Alyce and Franky. 58.186.232.247 (talk) 04:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC).

Not really, there's a slight difference. ALyce and Franky won the reward challenge and won immunity; Brittany won immunity and was given a reward. ZephyrWind (talk) 12:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Makeovers

Hey you gonna add the makeovers this cycle? I have them on my ANTM fansite page so if you'd like. I can add that part for you. I'd love to do that!

Ash —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mntm2009 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I believe the consensus was to not include makeovers due to POV issues. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:17, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Well then I can understand that. Thanks!

Ash —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mntm2009 (talk • contribs) 06:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Brittany's first call-out & Joint First-Callout

I'm sorry, but I can't understand why Brittany is listed as having a first call-out this week, while Tyra stated that the entire group was called first. I don't remember anyone saying that Brittany was the best of the team. If the judges picked one girl out of the three, the first call-out would probably go to Rae, after hearing all the positive feedback she received.

The call-out order should be Rae - Brittany - Jennifer since Tyra quite clearly said that was the order of who did the best. StupidityxLEAK (talk) 22:56, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the Rae - Brittany - Jennifer, as well as the single box, but how do we show that Rae and Jennifer won the challenge? God, it seems that Tyra really wants to complicate this page, haha. Coinboybrian (talk) 00:14, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Simply, because they are all jointly called first, we shall denote them as such. It doesn't matter who did better because at the end of the day, they are all counted as a first call-out, whether we like it or not. ZephyrWind (talk) 03:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

The table mentioned Tyra's Call-Out Order, not Tyra's First Call-Out. Therefore, it should still be Brit-Rae-Jen eventhough Rae was deemed the best of the group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.22.174.63 (talk) 02:39, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

OK I added in a note under the table to clarify everything. Hopefully it does haha. ZephyrWind (talk) 09:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Can't the cells be merged so it says "Brittany & Jennifer & Rae" like the Rebecca/Tiffany box in Cycle 4? 139.184.30.132 (talk) 14:25, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

That would be the logical thing to do, except Rae and Jennifer both won the challenge and there would be no way to indicate that. Coinboybrian (talk) 14:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)