Talk:Ralph Nader

5 election runs?

The article claims he's run for president 5 times, but Nader himself corrects the introducer here saying it was only 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR-V6bl41zU

The first time, in 92, his "run" was just in one state and just in the primary, from what I've read. In 96 he was just a write-in candidate. 2000 was his first "real" nationwide campaign (also according to the FEC I believe).--Joelrosenblum (talk) 15:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Nader says he "stood" for President twice but only "ran" three times, but under normal usage of the word he ran 5 times. Mystylplx (talk) 00:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

"The first time, in 92, his "run" was just in one state and just in the primary, from what I've read. In 96 he was just a write-in candidate. 2000 was his first "real" nationwide campaign (also according to the FEC I believe).--Joelrosenblum (talk) 15:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)"

Yes. He was running FOR PRESIDENT in just one state, and only in the primary. Mystylplx (talk) 18:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Nader was not a write-in candidate in 1996 he just refused to spend over $5,000 at which point he would be required to file financial discloser, and statement of candidacy forms. He appeared on twenty some ballots (most notably California) and was a write in candidate in a few others. In 1992 Nader was only a write-in candidate in the New Hampshire primary in both the Republican and Democratic primaries (Doing better in the Republican one). Nader did this to protest what he felt was a poor set of candidates for both parties. 2000 was his first real run. I don't know what you've been reading but I suggest you pick up a copy of Nader's book 'Crashing The Party' this will correct the poor quality of info you say you have read. As for runs for the presidency he ran in one primary in '92 (seeking not the presidency but the nomination of one or both parties) and in '96, '00, '04, '08 he was a candidate for president so the correct answer is 4. Highground79 (talk) 04:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

religion

can I source be cited for him being a Maronite Catholic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.179.237 (talk) 08:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree, I've never seen his religion discussed, nor heard him mention it. He may be "non-practicing," "spiritual but not religious," agnostic, atheist, who knows. Шизомби (talk) 19:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

the summary box states 'Religion - Christian' and cites reference 1, but that article doesn't address his religion...; this is should be clarified; —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaydlewis (talk • contribs) 05:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, so in line with WP:BLP I'll delete the stated religion; if someone can found a reliable source for his religion then it canbe put in with a citation. -- Timberframe (talk) 16:04, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Third-party votes controversy Section Biased?

The section "Third-party votes controversy" seems biased to me in favor of Nader not affecting Gore's chances the election. There is one sentence stating that he did, followed by an entire paragraph of rebuttal. The article, Ralph Nader Presidential Campaigns, for example, shows a more neutral stance on this issue. Sept. 20/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.140.150.195 (talk) 19:46, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. It is a "straw man" argument which essentially points out that there were other factors which ALSO affected the outcome and implies that somehow those other factors negate the undisputable fact that Nader was a decisive factor in getting Bush elected. Obviously Gore would have won Florida if more people had voted for him, if fewer democrats had voted for Bush, if the SC hadn't interfered, etc., but it's also true that Gore would have won if Nader had merely kept his promise to avoid campaigning in swing states. In fact he largely focused on swing states in the final two weeks of the election, especially Fl. There is no other single person who had as much of an impact on the outcome of the 2000 election as Ralph Nader (Other then Gore and Bush themselves, perhaps.) Even the SC had to get 5 votes to have the level of impact that Nader had.Mystylplx (talk)

Can you provide a source to the words Nader used when he said he would avoid campaigning in swing states? His defense is that he stated that he was, and I quote, "not going to go out of my way to go into the swing states". If there is a source with him quoted as promising "to avoid campaigning in swing states", that would help your case. Severisth (talk) 00:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

What is his PLATFORM?

Why isn't there a single word in here about Nader's platform or beliefs? Doesn't anyone think anyone trying to read up on Nader would want to know this? 72.177.34.13 (talk) 09:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

There's plenty in Ralph Nader presidential campaign, 2000. We don't print folks' entire platforms here. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Nader and the Supreme Court

A number of edits trying to push the idea that Nader is a candidate to replace Souter on the Supreme Court. Doesn't seem very likely, and I've searched on it and come up with message board posts that don't seem of any real significance. Can we keep this out of the article? Шизомби (talk) 20:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

At a minimum, the editor who keeps adding the edits should offer a citation. If it's "on the internet", why haven't we been given a link? This material shouldn't be added back until it comes with an adequate supporting reference. — Aldaron • T/C 21:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

That means a reliable source, not the rumor mills and hyperpartisan conspiracy blogs. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

If there's some editor who's actually pushing this, I wish he or she would contact me so that we could set up a bet. There's no way that Obama would appoint Nader. The most I could believe would be that someone in the administration had leaked Nader's name to try to curry favor with the Naderites, by leading them to believe that their hero was being considered. JamesMLane t c 19:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

My above statement may be poorly worded. The edit suggested "an online movement was launched to urge consideration of Nader." AFAICT there are some individuals who think he'd be a good idea, but no notability to their opinions, and no actual "movement." Шизомби (talk) 19:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

New Pic?

This is definitely minor but his picture doesn't look to happy or even positive, can we get a picture that doesn't make him look so pissed off? haha 72.220.125.54 (talk) 01:56, 13 October 2009 (UTC)