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Genre as a life of its own

A problem I've had as reader of music genre articles is that often articles apply the term to specific bands retroactively (which may, or may not reflect a current cultural trend) neglecting to mention that the particular band was not originally categorized as such. Often, there is not a historical use of the term in the article. Ultimately wikipedia is sourced and therefore if this were to be an issue with any given article it could be fleshed out with references. An example of such a problem is Creedence Clearwater Revival (CCR) being referred to as Swamp Rock. With respect to swamp bands (which were from the swamps -- in the South) at the time (1970s) Creedence were not categorized as such. The earliest mention of CCR as "Swamp" that I could find at one time was sourced from an Australian music critic -- not exactly an expert on "swamp" I imagine. I'm not asking for improvement in the CCR article. I'm mostly interested in hearing opinions on the relevence of "historical the use of a term" being encouraged as a project goal. Otherwise, the topic of genre tends to drift with the current music critic trend and suffers from memory loss. Older articles (from a subject matter's time period) are more difficult to find, newer internet articles are to me a source problem for historical integrity. More so than academic history, the history of pop music tends to be constantly rewritten by the latest critics where genre categorization is concerned. - Steve3849 ^talk 10:23, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I sympathise with a lot of this. You can have use a term for a genre that was not used at the time, but it is dangerous. Many genres that were clear at in the past are now hard to substantiate, since the internet was not around. My rule of thumb is that, even if they did not have the name, acts in a genre need to be aware that they are working in the same area, grouping together similar sounding or looking acts, does not make them part of a genre.--SabreBD (talk) 12:09, 29 October 2009 (UTC)