Talk:STS-133

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Flight objectives & payloads.

Would everyone please note that STS-133 is, according to the latest NASA launch manifest, the April 2007 FAWG Manifest (which is sitting on my desk in front of me), STS-133, the final mission for Endeavour and the program, is carrying Node 3 and the Cupola to the ISS. I'd be grateful if people would stop returning pages to their statuses as they were at the now out-of-date previous manifest. The current manifest can be seen at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Human Spaceflight. Thanks. Colds7ream 20:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Not that I want to interfere, but can we have some online source for that? NASA's official webpage is telling us something different, see here: [1]. There's also a history of an old version, even though it reads that the new version is of 3/2/06 and therefore would really be outdated by an April 2007 version (which still cannot be found anywhere official). An article about the April 2007 manifest can be found here: [2], but this does not state which orbiter is used and it is very unspecific about dates (so how would you know STS-133 is launched after STS-132 if there are no dates given?). ColdCase 00:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd love to, but I got it off the L2 section of nasaspaceflight.com's website, which is a subscription-based service, and my subscription will be cancelled if I put the manifest out freely onto the Internet. Colds7ream 17:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Without verifiable documentation, Wikipedia cannot use it per WP:CITE and WP:PROVEIT. 147.70.242.40 (talk) 17:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the others. L2 information is unverifiable due to its "closed user group" status combined with it being non-interpreted raw internal NASA information. In my opinion the best is to state the official manifest, and then add commentary that multiple sources (the public articles of Chris and those of CBS news for instance) indicate that the current schedule is under constant fluctuation with a very likely alternate configuration. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

As an addendum btw. I notice the constant "critique" about how "out of date" wikipedia is on the NSF forums and it annoys me more every time I read it. Wikipedians are not reporters, nor do we use information that cannot be verified by the public. If Chris and friends want a wikipedia that is up to date then Chris should consider opening up L2. If wikipedia is not up to date in areas that are public, they are encouraged to edit themselves. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

As of the end of STS-124, the updated NASA launch manifest still has STS-133 with Express Logistics carrier's 3 & 4 as its payload. The manifest is updated after every flight and subject to change. I wouldn't belive spaceflightnews for anything. I belive the NASA page's, much more reliable.--Steve (talk) 17:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

First non-shuttle commander to hold the position of Chief of the Astronaut Office

No ! Well, this statement completely neglects the pre-Shuttle era ... Hektor (talk) 19:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC)