Talk:Taipei 101

The Reply of 12:31, 21 April 2008 edit

The modification is clear and significant. I am adding the references, information, links, notes and corrections. If you need, please tell me that make a list of all corrections and causes of this modification. --118.166.134.119 (=140.111.99.123, the same user) 08:20, 19 may 2008 (UTC)

Looks way better than the last time I saw. Good work on citing sources!

Someformofhuman Speak now! 00:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

the Chronology section

the Chronology section needs to be cleaned up... for som reason i cant do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.116.27 (talk) 02:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Dold

• June 15, 2008 - Taipei 101 Run Up, won by German athlete Thomas Dold, 23, in 10 minutes, 53 seconds with 200,000 Taiwan dollars (6,600 US) prize - defeating last year's champion Italian Marco De Gasperi, second and Taiwan's Chen Fu-tsai, third (of 2,500 participants). Dold also won the 2008 New York Empire State Building run-up. In the women's event, Taiwanese Lee Hsiao-yu of Taiwan, won in 14 minutes and 53 seconds.afp.google.com, German wins race up world's tallest skyscrapernewsinfo.inquirer.net, German wins race up world's tallest skyscraper--Florentino floro (talk) 06:47, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Damper Baby?

Should it be included in the article of the actual name of the damper? I was able to go to Taipei 101 in 2006 or 2007, and it has a clearly stated name of Damper Baby, along with height, weight, likes and the such. Apparently, we view it as a personification. Should this be added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.228.24.66 (talk) 04:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Artemis Fowl

Taipei 101 was mentioned in the fifth Artemis Fowl book. Should we mention this? --Buritanii (talk) 15:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

POJ

Tai-pak yat-leng-yat is Cantonese, not POJ. Someone should correct this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.77.14.195 (talk) 18:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Deaths during construction

No mention of the 5 civilian deaths caused by cranes falling off during construction? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.168.132 (talk) 17:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Y I added 臺北101

Hello there: the same way the ROC article has a country infobox showing the name in english, then, its local name in the appliable script (traditional), or the Red cross of the ROC article, in its NGO infobox, I have added it, for what it seems like the policy of the site...

I DO NOT SUPPORT ADDING 台北101 TO THE SKYCRAPPER INFOBOX, BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAIBEI, LIKE THE CITY OF TAIZHONG, BOTH USE THE FORM 臺, NOT 台.

linguistics include both variants (thats y its a linguistics box)Gumuhua (talk) 22:15, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

• 臺 and 台 are both acceptable and are both used in the city names. Personally, I think if there's one character that should be purged from the Chinese language, it is 臺. It's utterly useless, as 台 is already both a traditional and a simplified character. 61.224.44.12 (talk) 12:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Location

Taipei is in Tiawan not China. Why is it stated as located in China? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.127.248.75 (talk) 23:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure when it was changed. Taipei 101 is in Taiwan. Taiwan is currently governed by the Republic of China (note: not the People's Republic of China, which governs China). The location should be given as "Taiwan". If there is a need to state the government, it should be "Republic of China". If this were an article about politics and the jurisdiction were a key characteristic of the subject, it would be important to mention the Republic of China government. However Taipei 101 is a commercial building. If you want to find it, you go to Taiwan. That's the location. Readin (talk) 01:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Location

Someone changed it back so i changed it myself. same as before.Sorry spelled it wrong.

Misleading? "constructed primarily by Samsung Engineering and Construction and KTRT Joint Venture."

With all due respect to Neyagawa's contributions, I believe the statement may be somewhat misleading in that reader may read Samsung as the primary (or leading) constructor.

According to a The Korea Times article on the Burj Dubai, Samsung was not the leading contractor for Taipei 101: "Samsung has been involved in the construction of the world's three tallest buildings _ the Burj Dubai, Taipei 101 and Malaysia's Petronas Towers. But it is the first time for it to be a leading contractor."

Also (and this is perhaps just me), citing another wiki as a source of information is a bit risky. We should look for a better source. Having said that, I found this claim at Samsung C&T Corporation's website. Note that it's technically still a "claim" because the source is Samsung itself.

Most other articles covering the engineering aspects of Taipei 101 constructions do not mention Samsung. Even those industry periodicals that went into details of the engineering and constructions don't mention Samsung. Here's such article by Engineering News-Record (A McGraw-Hill Construction publication).

There're tens, if not hundreds, other contractors/subcontractors involved in this mega project. Do we need to list them all?

Rather than making changes on my own, I thought I discuss with you guys and see if we can improve this with more concrete sources.

Skyline68 (talk) 07:07, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

IF NO OBJECTIONS, I'LL REMOVE "SAMSUNG" AND THE ASSOCIATED UNVERIFIABLE REFERENCE SOURCES. WILL DO SO BY SEPTEMBER 7, 2009. THANKS!

Skyline68 (talk) 08:35, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Updated page to reflect the above points. Please note that there should be no objections against adding names of subcontractors (or secondary contractors), however, this should be done so along with adding their significance/contributions to the constructions. Otherwise, the general reader will be reading a long list of credits that offers minimum knowledge. Skyline68 (talk) 17:38, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Definition of Building

I disagree with the following statement, and think it would be worth mentioning a reputable source for this definition in the article:

"international architectural standards define a "building" as a structure capable of being fully occupied."

If this were truly the qualification for a "Building" then that would suggest that an office tower that is fire damaged on one floor or an apartment complex that is flooded in the basement or a house that has had its water shut-off ceases to be a building because they cannot safely and legally sustain full occupancy in accordance with city building codes (at least in the United States). Obviously, that is completely counter-intuitive.

For sake of example, when the Empire State Building was hit by a B-52 bomber in 1945, was it temporarily not a building while ongoing repairs were being conducted to the upper floors? --RKrause (talk) 04:37, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

References and Citations should be reviewed to avoid false or exaggerated claims...

I believe we should review the citations in this article to make it more credible.

It's dangerous and unacceptable to cite another wiki without going directly to the sources of information.

This is pretty much how rumors got started. And rumor is not what wikipedia is about.

Please help clean up this article and improve its quality and credibility.

Skyline68 (talk) 19:49, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Suggest Removal

Richie Wiki

This article here claims that Taipei 101 was "constructed by Samsung Engineering and Construction and KTRT Joint Venture." But it failed to offer source of reference. In the article's reference section, none of the cited reference mentioned Samsung. In fact, the video "Discovery Channel, Man Made Marvels: Taipei 101", which majority of the article is based, mentioned neither Samsung nor KTRT JV. This only proves that this RitchieWikie article doesn't qualify as reliable source of reference.

New Year's Eve fireworks

Hey, does anyone have a source for this: "2009-2010: There will no longer be fireworks this year due to the rejection of foreign company sponsors such as Sony." I'm just a bit curious about why there aren't going to be fireworks this year. 128.255.150.46 (talk) 22:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)