User talk:OvertAnalyzer

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Hi MissionImm.Jim from Brenda

Hi, I am not on the task force anymore and wanted to say that I enjoyed working with you. If you wish to get in touch, you can message me on my user page and I can give you my email address. Bhneihouse (talk) 20:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)bhneihouseBhneihouse (talk)

hey thanks for the message. I did get a bit harsh at the end because both Philippe and Eekim were totally ignoring my requests for them to act humanely and for them to deal with a request I made for an accommodation for my disability, which they entirely ignored. I saw that you stopped posting and I figured it was for reasons similar to mine -- burn out with all this micro level cerebral nonsense and a desire to move forward in a meaningful way. With your background, which I have dealt with a lot, my brother being a programmer since my teens and my ex husband being in high tech, high end avionics electronics R&D, and having a ton of friends in shoes similar to yours, I figured you wouldnt want to dilly dally with a project where it seemed nothing was getting done nor would it get done. What bothers me most is that the task force community had no rules and supposedly Wikipedia's rules didnt apply there, yet I got blocked for a Wikipedia rule and I was blocked by someone involved in the "dispute" which is tacitly against the rules and the spirit of Wikipedia. I just have this sense that this task force group is doing whatever they want to without mind to the consequences. That just doesnt sit well with me. If you say "any idea is ok here" then any idea, including an honest expression of frustration has to be ok. I work in the social justice realm and the ways Wikipedia and the task force work doesnt fit what I consider equitable or just. Thanks for the support. If I can help with anything, give a holler. ~~bhneihouse~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhneihouse (talk • contribs) 05:45, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi MissionImm.Jim

I appreciate your assistance the other day. My feelings got hurt. And then I realizied I was just being selfish and self centered. Afterall, I put so much work in the stuff I wrote.

What I did not do was think about how to become part of this wonderful project in a helpful way. I am most gratefull for your kindness in not slapping me to hard. Since you last contacted me I have made some new efforts in adding information to the Riverside Poly page about some of the information from the yearbooks. Subject was in Music and another in the School Mascot and school pride. I even learned one way to make a reference.

Here is a question about appropriate information for the Riverside County page under Places of Interest. Would it be proper to add the Rouote 66 Museums that are in Riverside? There are also some in San Bernardino that could go on their page. Most humbly - Cirelages (talk) 07:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Jim, One more little question, I must be blind. I don't seem to be able to find the link to e-mail you. Cirelages (talk) 06:10, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi There!

It seems that you are intrested in the Riverside, CA, Inland Empire (California) area. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Inland Empire and join if you like. It is a newly formed wikiproject that I just created so please cheak it out. Any questions contact me! Thank-You House1090 (talk) 02:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Inland Empire

Your welcome, well thats great I focus mostly in San Bernardino, so we can work together. I will be scanning through the Riverside Article when I get the chance. I feel the IE Articles need some work. Dont be shy and add what you feel and like on the project page. House1090 (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Wait what template are you talking about? House1090 (talk) 22:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh well in a metro/regional article you add every thing about the region, not just of 1 city, and for a city article you add stuff of just the city...same for a template. Hope I made my self clear. Also I added a WikiProject IE user box to your page, hope you dont mind. House1090 (talk) 06:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't mind the added user box. Thanks for clarification MissionInn.Jim (talk) 01:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Jim, city article guidelines are here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cities/Guideline. To my knowledge, there isn't a standard template for regional articles. Just gather some good sources and wing it. Best, Amerique^dialectics 13:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Amerique. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 01:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Riverside

What do you think the Riverside article needs? House1090 (talk) 00:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

• I'll have to give that some thought. I have noticed a few things that probably need to be cleaned up and updated. I'll try to make some time this weekend to look it over. Is there a good city article somewhere that you would recommend as a model? Also, is this the best place for me to respond, or would you prefer I respond on your talk page?

San Francisco is featured. (I tend to respond wherever.) Amerique^dialectics 02:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Yea San Francisco is a great Idea! And please add anything you like to the wikiproject! House1090 (talk) 02:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

• I was looking at the Riverside disambiguation page today, and thought that could use some cleanup also. In fact, it seems to me, after looking at the other items on the page, that Riverside, California should be at the top. I believe the disambiguation style guide calls for the most common reference to be at the top. Do you think I would get a lot of flack if I put it up there? MissionInn.Jim (talk) 02:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Probably. Riverside, Ca is the first hit on a Google search, but a couple other results also show up as well. The disambig page is organized alphabetically by country. You can try if you want to see what would happen but I would expect to get reverted. Amerique^dialectics 16:40, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Go for it it doesn't hurt to try. House1090 (talk) 00:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

<==You know, you ought to put an image of the Mission Inn into the Riverside page. I think you could easily move the suburban housing image down to, say, near the list of schools where there's all that white space on the right, and put a hotel photo in its place near where it's mentioned. You probably have a bunch of photos, so pick an image that isn't yet featured at the Mission Inn article. Something iconic.

Good idea. I'll find one to include.

Also, you can report that the slogan/tagline/whatever of the Mission Inn is "the world-famous Mission Inn" but you can't put "world famous" in regular text. It's a peacock term. Binksternet (talk) 17:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

That's helpful to know. Thanks for the feedback. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 17:32, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

ISU Campus & buildings IT

The reason it got reverted was because I was working a few bugs out in a sandbox, when I pasted the new version it reverted your change. Was going to go back and change that section but forgot.--Jaretac (talk) 21:12, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

• OK. Thank you for responding and letting me know what happened. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 21:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Riverside in what Valley?

Hi I was wondering what valley is riverside in? Im thinking Riverside is a part of the Perris Valley and the Jurupa Valley, but Im not sure. I would have to say I am positive that Riverside in not a part of the San Bernardino Valley, do you happen to know what valley Riverside is in? House1090 (talk) 22:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

It's funny you should ask. I have been trying to figure that out recently. I have lived most of my life in Riverside, and have never heard it referred to as being part of either the San Bernardino or Perris vallies. I have never heard it referred to as being in a valley at all, but it is surrounded by hills of varying heights. Recently I did find two sources that state that Juan Bautista de Anza called it the "Valle de Paraiso" or Valley of Paradise, but I have not been able to confirm that on the Web De Anza site, and I never heard that used or seen it on a map. If I find anything, I'll let you know. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 01:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Well that makes two of us I've never heard of riverside being in a valley, I thought it was a low foothill community with the diffrent elevstion ranges like San Bernardino/Highland/Yucaipa. But I recall reading one day about Riverside being in the Perris Valley. But I will also be doing some more research as well. So yea let me know what you find, and I will let you know if I read any thing important. House1090 (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Riverside and Inland Empire

		The California Star
		In recognition of the last two months of your renewed involvement and expertise in topics related to Inland Empire and Riverside. -Binksternet (talk) 16:21, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Not sure I'll be able to keep it up. I might get in trouble for not getting things done around the house. (I'm only half serious about getting in trouble.) MissionInn.Jim (talk) 21:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox move

The page User:Missioninn.Jim/Sandbox2 has been moved to User:MissionInn.Jim/Sandbox2 Skier Dude (talk) 22:29, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

IE picture of the Week!

Hey, would you like to choose this week's "IE Picture of the Week"? I dont know if you have noticed but we have a IE picture of the Week board on the WikiProject IE page. The current picture is the one of the Riverside Skyline and we need a new one, so would you like to change it to a diffrent one? Any-one you like, I would like if you could choose because you have help out a lot. LEt me know and change it! Thank-You, House1090 (talk) 23:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

California (disambiguation)

Hi Jim -- Thanks for the compliment and the input. To me, it seems like "United States of America" can refer to either the singular country, or the plural fifty states, but I can understand your point (and maybe I'm wrong that it can be either). I changed it to "California is a state within the United States of America", which I hope you like better. If you have another suggestion for a simple definition, feel free to change it yourself. Thanks again. Propaniac (talk) 18:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikiproject IE

SO would you like to choose the picture for wikiproject IE? Are you still active/still with the project? Please let me know as soon as possible. House1090 (talk) 22:57, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I was slow responding. I was out of town for a while. Thank you for the offer to select a picture. How about this picture MissionInn.Jim (talk) 23:21, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that would be great, I think I was by there on my way to Palm Springs, lol. But its a great picture, yes. SO will you but it your self? House1090 (talk) 23:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Riverside International Automotive Museum

On October 8, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Riverside International Automotive Museum, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 06:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Immanuel Lutheran School (Greenville, Wisconsin)

This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Immanuel Lutheran School (Greenville, Wisconsin), and it appears to be very similar to another Wikipedia page: Immanuel Lutheran School. It is possible that you have accidentally duplicated contents, or made an error while creating the page— you might want to look at the pages and see if that is the case. If you are intentionally moving or duplicating content, please be sure you have followed the procedure at Wikipedia:Splitting by acknowledging the duplication of material in edit summary to preserve attribution history.

This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot (talk) 13:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I was in the process of moving the page to use the original title Immanuel Lutheran School as a disambiguation page. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 14:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

IE Categories

The Inland Empire is a Metropolitan Area not a region, but I reverted your edit because some people might be doing research on San Bernardino or Riverside Counties, they might be intrested in the the metro. the county is in, does that make sense? But thats my opinion. If you like you may put it in the IE talk pge and see what other Wiki users think. House1090 (talk) 21:29, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Inland Empire...name change

Hey take a look at the bottom of Inland Empire talk page, I requested a name change for the article but woold like your input on it, thanks- House1090 (talk) 23:50, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I repled to you on the IE Talk Page. House1090 (talk) 22:20, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I dont know if you have the IE Talk page on your watch list, but I replied, let me know if you do have it on your watch list. House1090 (talk) 23:40, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Replied. House1090 (talk) 00:51, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I have IE on my watch list, so you don't need to put comments here. Thanks though. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 01:45, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay just wanted to make sure. House1090 (talk) 05:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Box Springs Mountain

Please see my reply on my talk page. –droll [chat] 21:55, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Replied to you most recent and added some more stuff. I didn't want to confuse the issue but perhaps I did. If your curious you can follow the links I included. If I can point you toward more information let me know. –droll [chat] 22:53, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

A Couple of Questions...

Hey, I would like to know if you are ok with WikiProject IE using the MissionInn picture you have on your user page as the IE picture of the week? Please let me know ASAP! Also what do you think of including Inyo County in the Inland Empire? I ask this because I saw a sign in San Bernardino naming the Inland Empire Counties and it included Inyo County, it was a school district sign to be exact. And also a user has added Impirial County to Inland Empire article, as possibly being within the IE area, but I'm not sure if Imperial County or Inyo County are in the Metropolitan Area. Again I have heard of Inyo County of being in the IE, but not Impirial, but people in Riverside County might since Riv. and Imperial Counties are next to each other. Let me know what you think of including Inyo and Imperial to the IE article formally as soon as possible or if you have ever heard any of these two counties of being in the Inland Empire, Thank-YouHouse1090 (talk) 03:57, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

• It's OK with me if you use the picture. I don't know who uploaded it.
• I have never heard of Inyo or Imperial counties being part of the IE. I have heard of eastern LA County being included. I thought I understood you to be working from the perspective that the Inland Empire is the same as the Riv-SB-Ont MSA. If that is true, then the IE definitely would not include Inyo and Imperial counties. Your question supports what I was trying to say originally. It's difficult to associate the IE with a specific metropolitan area or MSA since the IE means different things to different people. There is no official definition.
• I would not oppose including those counties, if reliable sources could be referenced. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 06:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Well thats what I thought I agree with you, I dont have a reference, and thats my question is Inyo County part of the Riv-SB-Ont metro (MSA)? Look at its population and the IE Metro population dont SB, Riv, and Inyo County add up the IE metros population? The IE website (www.inlandempire.us) states that SB and Riv. Counties make up the Inland Empire, or the Riv-SB-Ont MSA. Again locally I have, not regularlly though, heard and seen signs of Inyo County of being part of the IE, but I have no source to back up me, so I have never tried to include it to the IE article. By the way what do you consider the Riv-SB-Ont MSA? House1090 (talk) 06:35, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

• When I refer to the Riv-SB-Ont MSA, I am referring to what is defined by the Census Bureau here. It clearly shows that only Riverside and SB counties are included, but the Census Bureau never uses the term Inland Empire, so the two terms are not necessarily equivalent.
• I would not put too much faith in population numbers. All population numbers are estimates. Depending on what assumptions are made the numbers could very widely. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 14:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Yea, I could see that but I think Inland Empire is just a nickname, like the Twin Cities for example, the US Census uses Minneapolis-St. Paul (and some other city, I dont remember the name), but people and media still refer to it as the Twin Cities. People and media refer to the Riv-SB-Ont MSA as the Inland Empire. Again thats why I wanted a name change so that it can be obvious that the article is about the MSA rather than something else. House1090 (talk) 20:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

• I'm in agreement that IE is a nickname, but it's a nickname that means different things to different people. The way I see it, the content of a Wiki article about the IE should be approached differently than an article about the Riv-SB-Ont MSA. The MSA is a discreet area that can be described in terms of demographics, economy, geography, etc. The IE is more conceptual and it would be difficult to pin down those things since the area covered varies depending on context. As an example, I just picked up a copy of Inland Empire Weekly, and it includes Claremont in the IE. Claremont is in LA County. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 22:25, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Yea Im sure you and I have different views on what the Inland Empire is, even if we may not agree on the article name and what not its always good to have other opinions and I wanted to let you know as top contributer of WikiProject IE, I will always ask for your opinion. By the way what do you think of you becoming an admin? We could use an admin to represent the Riv-SB MSA. Let me know as soon as possible, I also had in mine of becoming a candidate my self, but you defenitly have a good contribution history, and I am willing on putting a good word in for you and backing you up 100%. House1090 (talk) 03:14, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

• I don't think I would be interested in being an Admin at this time, because I can't be certain of my time committment, but what would you need an Admin to do? MissionInn.Jim (talk) 13:37, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Usually admins have more respect, and are thought of higher authority. An admin. would be able to support wikiproject IE all the way. And also there edits are more respected, and no questions are asked. And there is no committment needed, you will just be higher ranked, and if you dont get become one, you can all ways try again later. House1090 (talk) 04:46, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians in Toastmasters International

Hi Jc37; It appears you deleted the above category in 2007. Since then, several Wikipedians have used the user box template that places them in this category. Is there a reason the category should not be added back? Thank you. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 02:17, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi.

The simple answer is: Just because there is a userbox, doesn't mean that there should be a category attached to it.

See Wikipedia:Userboxes for more information. - jc37 17:54, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Regardless of the user box, is there a reason this category should not be added back? You appear to have deleted it because it was an empty category. Now there are eight wikipedians in the category. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 20:06, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Inland Empire Project merger thoughts

Hi, I was hoping I could get your current opinion at a renewed discussion on whether to change WikiProject Inland Empire to a task force of WikiProject California, including any questions you had about what that would mean. The discussion is located at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Inland Empire#We gotta merge this. Thanks for any response in advance, and for your work on Inland Empire topics. -Optigan13 (talk) 08:57, 1 December 2009 (UTC)