Talk:Brittany Murphy

Faith

Any documentation that she practices Kabbalah? She says in the Latino Review interview that's a she's a practicing non-denominational Christian. Admittedly that interview was a few years ago, but still, is it confirmed she does practice Kabbalah?

Removed. References say otherwise. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:21, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Then again, it does mention she got married in a Jewish ceremony, but nothing mentions Kabbalah. --Jtalledo (talk) 12:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Headline News Article for Tinkerbell addition. --Michael Gray 15:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Death

Reports that actress Brittany Murphy has died at the age of 32.

Multiple sources have told the website that Murphy went into cardiac arrest and could not be revived. Los Angeles City Fire Department confirms a 911 call was made at 8 a.m. Sunday morning from the home listed as belonging to Murphy's husband, Simon Monjack.

The Powers that be (ie the people that have too much time on their hands and do the majority edits to Wikipedia, don't believe she's dead. The death was first reported by TMZ which apparently isn't a reliable source, despite the fact that they've never been wrong before. Apparently, according to Wikipedia, she isn't officially dead until the LA Times reports it. 81.103.197.86 (talk) 20:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, TMZ has been wrong before. [[1]] mgahs (talk) 20:20, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Are you seriously citing a blog to confirm your statement that TMZ has been wrong before? Have you heard of Irony?? 81.103.197.86 (talk) 20:27, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Murphy was best-known for her breakthrough role in 1995's Clueless. She went on to star in films including 8 Mile, Uptown Girls and Just Married. She co-starred in the latter with former boyfriend Ashton Kutcher.

The first paragraph has to be cited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.9.178.26 (talk) 20:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes IMDb front page says she died as well http://www.imdb.com/news/ni1320787/ --Jim Raynor (talk) 20:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Huffington Post has an article about her death also at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/danny-groner/brittany-murphy-was-recen_b_398594.html Is there some reason her death cannot be reported in the article? Kitchawan (talk) 20:18, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS REPORTS AS WELL: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/20/2009-12-20_actress_brittany_murphy_dies_at_32_of_heart_attack_report.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loveableae (talk • contribs) 20:20, 20 December 2009 (UTC) This says the coroner confirmed it http://www.kdvr.com/entertainment/ktla-brittaney-murphy,0,1700866.story —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.60.211.58 (talk) 20:23, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Note that all these links are being very careful to just cite TMZ, none of them have actual verification. When it's actually reported by anyone else in the universe, we'll know. Jordanp (talk) 20:26, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I just read three separate things about her death on this page, a car accident, cardiac arrest (x2). Plus two different dates for her death. This just affirms the fact that people are not posting reliable information. Her death is simply hearsay at this point. joecdn (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Death now being reported by the LA Times

Career

This line is seen.... "Also in 2005, she appeared in the promo video for Tears for Fears' comeback single Closest Thing To Heaven, and in August 2009, Brittany co-presented UK music show CD:UK alongside Holly Willoughby."

August 2009???can anyone correct this?Bilbo elffriend | Talk 19:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Accusations about criminal activities should be substantiated

"she has had little contact with her father, who later served time for racketeering" - Editors must take particular care adding biographical material about a living person to any Wikipedia page. Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity, and must adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States and to all of our content policies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.79.212.196 (talk) 23:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Her weight

From Clueless to 8 Mile Brittany had a significant weight loss. Chalk that up to adolescence, anorexia, whatever, but it needs to be documented here. 161.38.230.128 (talk) 21:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Why? And how can this possibly be documented without speculation? I'm more curious about her crazy faux Euro-accent. DFS (talk) 07:55, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Band name

I have seen sources that claim the band was called "Blessed With Soul" or "Blessed Soul". The amount of sources seems to be about equal. Can someone find a definitive source? 24.105.143.110 (talk) 16:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Debut album

Are there any credible sources that claim her debut album is being released in 2009? I remember reading that about 2007 and 2008 and no album has been released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Glamking (talk • contribs) 11:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Her husband's dead, you guys and so is she...

The 911 call was released...

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/brittany-murphy-husband-911-call/

that 911 call is from when her husband was rushed to the hospital last month —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.7.197.211 (talk) 19:18, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

How can HE be dead? He called 911 when she went into cardiac arrest this morning!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.99.46 (talk) 19:28, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

She died last night: http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/20/brittany-murphy-dies-cardiac-arrest/

Certainly you can read the article cited where it says he was revived, yes?Bwryan2006 (talk) 19:59, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Reported death

OK, so it's all over twitter, and it's on TMZ.

No other news sources have picked it up, and she supposedly died December 20, 2009.

Removing all talk of her death until we can be certain that she is. Doctorbob (talk) 19:10, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Can we get the page protected until there is proof? It keeps getting changed every few minutes. (Iroc24 (talk) 19:27, 20 December 2009 (UTC)) Lots of links online: http://www.hollyscoop.com/brittany-murphy/brittany-murphy-dies_22505.aspx http://www.okmagazine.com/2009/12/report-brittany-murphy-dead-at-32/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/20/brittany-murphy-dead-dies_n_398576.html http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/20/2009-12-20_actress_brittany_murphy_dies_at_32_of_heart_attack_report.html

Thing is, all of them cite the TMZ source, so we can't be 100% sure. --Hamster X 19:29, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

jesus people, she's clearly dead, stop being such self important tools and put it up. TMZ or not, theres evidence to support it from multiple sources, who may have borrowed the story, but this is not uncommon and lends to its legitimacy. a 5 year old could have figured this out. wikipedia doesnt require a death certificate to show someones kicked the bucket.

Stay classy there, bud. -- Phoenix2 19:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

TMZ broke Michael Jackson and no one believed it then either.Adverge (talk) 19:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Great, should be easy to find an independent source, then. So far, every single report I've seen refers to tmz. Note that our requirements are verifiability, not truth. See WP:BLP, WP:V, WP:RS. --Yamla (talk) 19:34, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't mean that we should accept everything they say. A broken clock is right twice a day. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:34, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Can we stop being protective sods and unprotect the page and update it, the poor cow has passed on and her page needs updating. Movellon (talk) 19:35, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Sure, as soon as you provide a reliable citation. --Yamla (talk) 19:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

shouldn't it be at least updated to say that she was reported dead?

Why can't any of you seem to wait until a RELIABLE SOURCE has reported it. TMZ has been wrong before . Even if they are probably not wrong on this we should wait. --Russ is the sex (talk) 19:37, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

The Sun (UK newspaper) has confirmation here - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2779223/Actress-Brittany-Murphy-dead-aged-32.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgebergel (talk • contribs) 19:38, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Again, quoting TMZ link. We're waiting for verifiable source material here; we don't want another Jeff Goldblum, after all. Krytenia (talk) 19:41, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Give it another hour or so and it will be confirmed by "credible" sources. 24.255.213.249 (talk)

ABC is on the case now according to their Twitter account. Keep an eye out, I'm sure confirmation is soon to follow. RainHerself (talk) 19:44, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

heh, we got a mention here [2]--Jac16888^Talk 19:48, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

It's being reported in the The Sun http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/usa/2779246/Actress-Brittany-Murphy-is-dead.html .

Yes, yet another place citing tmz. Not helpful. --Yamla (talk) 20:02, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Variety citing TMZ and NY Daily News: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118012992.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&ref=vertfilm JFreak213 (talk) 20:01, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

NY Daily News itself citing TMZ. Doctorbob (talk) 20:03, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

its on abc: http://abcnews.go.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.8.251 (talk) 20:08, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

What do you people need to "verify" that she's deceased, examine the body? TMZ is basing their report on a highly verifiable source which will likely be the same source when the other news organizations confirm the report. Why not at least mention the TMZ article? It's newsworthy regardless of whether it hasn't been "verified."

SF Chronicle has at least independently confirmed that paramedics were called to the house http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/20/entertainment/e120745S42.DTL&tsp=1 Mrfeek (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ktla-brittaney-murphy,0,614448.story

this says the coroner confirmed it http://www.kdvr.com/entertainment/ktla-brittaney-murphy,0,1700866.story —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.60.211.58 (talk) 20:24, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Edit request

{{editprotected}} This version is the most recent "correct" version I believe. Comparison: [3]. Thanks. 71.162.23.69 (talk) 19:24, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Y Done Thanks for the heads-up. matt (talk) 19:30, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but there's still a few left: [4]

• Please change "birth date" template in the infobox back to "birth date and age".
• Please remove the date and place of death in the metadata at the bottom.
• Please re-add Category:Living people and Category:1977 births.
• Please change "She starred" back to "She has starred" in the lead, and change "was a non-denominational practicing Christian" back to present tense in the "Early life" section.

Thanks. 71.162.23.69 (talk) 19:41, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

And obviously, disregard the above if the reports turn out to be true. 71.162.23.69 (talk) 20:19, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Its on Sky News now.

If Sky are reporting second hand news from TMZ it won't matter. Still same (as yet unverified) source. Doctorbob (talk) 19:38, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

http://www.gossipcop.com/reports-brittany-murphy-dead/

A website with the word "gossip" in the URL is inherently unreliable. matt (talk) 19:40, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

The Sun isn't reliable —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.4.131 (talk) 19:45, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Protection

Please put a lock on this page, since it is being reported that she has passed away from a full cardiac arrest.

 Done I've fully protected the article due to all the attention its gotten because of Murphy's rumored death. We need a reliable source for her death; every single report I've seen has referenced the sole TMZ article. We need something a wee bit more substantial than that. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution actually took down their story. We've had fake death reports before. Castro, anyone? --Smashville^talk 19:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Anyone ever heard the story of Joe Dimaggio watching TV when the ticker announcing his death came across? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/1999/01/25/tv_dimaggio/

By verified source do you mean one which has not quoted TMZ?

Well, let's think back to Michael Jackson's death, where for half the day, TMZ was the only one to report his death. Since both ABC , the LA Times, and the Examiner are now reporting her death, without citing TMZ I might add, I would have to think that there is some pretty weighty truth behind this "rumor." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gothangelblood (talk • contribs) 19:52, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Please cite. Only mention I can find from ABC is that they are trying to verify the information. --Yamla (talk) 19:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, it's not for us to decide whether it is true or not, regardless of any likelihoods. We're not a news source, we're a tertiary source – so our information comes from reliable third party sources only. matt (talk) 19:58, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Just because someone doesn't cite the TMZ website doesn't make it true either, I could post something on the internet myself claiming to have spoken to a reliable source. doesn't make it true.

The BBc or Sky News may have got their info from TMZ and just not cited them. Wikipedia in itself is not a reliable source.

Wikipedia is a tertiary source. You're comparing apples to oranges. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Well you can't exactly get all high and mighty claiming to need reliable sources when you admit to being a tertiary source, what is TMZ? what is Sky News? a higher source than Wikipedia I'm guessing.

TMZ is a primary source that has been wrong in the past. It doesn't meet WP:V Doctorbob (talk) 20:14, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

If its a primary source it has a higher reliability than Wikipedia. Every news source makes mistakes.

Death

"Brittany Murphy died early this morning after she went into full cardiac arrest and could not be revived, multiple sources tell TMZ.

She was 32.

A 911 call was made at 8:00 AM from a home in Los Angeles that is listed as belonging to her husband, Simon Monjack, the Los Angeles City Fire Department tells TMZ.

We're told Murphy was taken to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center where she was pronounced dead on arrival.

Murphy starred in such films as "Clueless," "8 Mile," and "Don't Say a Word."

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0aG8cXXUB"

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/20/2009-12-20_actress_brittany_murphy_dies_at_32_of_heart_attack_report.html

That article cites TMZ. -- Phoenix2 19:37, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

editprotected On December 20, 2009, at the age of 32, Murphy went into full cardiac arrest and could not be revived. A 911 call was made at 8:00 AM from a home in Los Angeles that is listed as belonging to her husband, Simon Monjack. Murphy was taken to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center where she was pronounced dead on arrival.

Declined. See WP:RS, WP:BLP, WP:COPYVIO. --Yamla (talk) 19:38, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

NY Daily News has reported this. This is a reputable source. http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/20/2009-12-20_actress_brittany_murphy_dies_at_32_of_heart_attack_report.html

Hardly, its only source of information is TMZ. --Yamla (talk) 19:40, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

By adopting a stance whereby a credible source is ignored Wikipedia has put itself behind in terms of updating responsive to the latest information. At the very least the TMZ report should be referred to. There is no reason why an on-line source which has proved itself to be reliable should be given less validity than an old-media source, particularly having regard to the fact Wikipedia is internet-based. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.16.80.84 (talk) 20:21, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, TMZ has been wrong in the past, therefore it's reliability has been tainted. [[5]] mgahs (talk) 20:26, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Every major news organization has been wrong in the past. That doesn't mean the TMZ story shouldn't be at least mentioned on the Wikipedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.102.198.19 (talk) 20:29, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

If you want to tell the world that, according to TMZ, Brittany Murphy is dead, do it on Twitter or Facebook. Jesus, people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canal panama (talk • contribs) 20:38, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Brittany Murphy died today (12-20-2009)

The article needs to be updated accordingly.Tayspita (talk) 19:38, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Again, awaiting confirmation from a source other than TMZ. -- Phoenix2 19:39, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

There are a lot of mostly reliable news sources taking the TMZ report seriously. While it awaits official confirmation, I would have thought it is certainly enough at the moment to include the fact that her death has been widely reported. Sam Blacketer (talk) 19:42, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

That might be a decent compromise. I say play the waiting game just now, as the TMZ report will surely have alerted other news agencies to the scene. Doctorbob (talk) 19:48, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

You say this like all of those aren't just quoting TMZ. Seriously. Wait. What happened will come out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.119.251.248 (talk) 19:45, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, they're quoting a report which originally appeared on TMZ. Just because something is on TMZ doesn't mean it is inaccurate. They are major news organisations putting their own reputation on the line for saying that this particular TMZ report is worth taking seriously, and that is itself significant - wouldn't you say? Put it this way: suppose (and let's hope) Brittany Murphy turns up alive and well wondering what the fuss is about. There's a lot of people in the media going to be very embarrassed long before anyone mentions Wikipedia. Sam Blacketer (talk) 19:49, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia's criteria is verifiability, not truth. See WP:V. So far, it is not verifiable. I expect this to change in a few minutes. --Yamla (talk) 19:51, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

It is quite verified that "Brittany Murphy's death was reported by TMZ on Sunday 20 December 2009, a report taken seriously by other major news organisations". Sam Blacketer (talk) 19:52, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

They're quoting the ONLY report based on nebulous sources. It doesn't mean it's inaccurate, it just means it's really still unconfirmed. They're all quoting it as a report, they're all using TMZ as the only source and TMZ really is unsourced. Where's the harm in waiting? Zero. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.119.251.248 (talk) 19:53, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

The harm in waiting is that it will cause revert wars - a large number of people will seek to add the information anyway, in the mistaken belief that they are the first to notice. It is sometimes better to include this sort of information cast into the proper form of what is actually verified, just so that myriad others do not go adding it in an unverified form. Sam Blacketer (talk) 19:56, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

That's what protection is for. --Meraxes (talk) 19:59, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

That's the harm in having any page editable. Sensible Wikipedians (and there are many) will know we are waiting. Or at least read the talk page Krytenia (talk) 20:00, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

That will be added (either way) when we get confirmation (either way) from a reliable source, I'm sure. Meanwhile, let's hold fire until we know what's going on. We want to be right, not first. Krytenia (talk) 19:48, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

It just looks like people have something against TMZ for having a celebrity-gossip reputation, less than the New York Times rep. If the New York Times reported it first with no other sources reporting, would it get posted here? Adverge (talk) 19:57, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

The NYT is a reliable source. TMZ is notorious for running stories that haven't been fact checked, thus is not. --Smashville^talk 20:00, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Good question. Depends on who they sourced, I guess. WP:V Doctorbob (talk) 20:01, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

The NY Post has also confirmed it. Erikeltic ^(Talk) 20:10, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

See Death of Michael Jackson, and this embarrassing story from July. Let's be cautious here.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Eonline is confirming it, citing the L.A. County Department of Coroner http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b158928_clueless_star_brittany_murphy_dies.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.51.79.184 (talk) 20:27, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Deceased December 20, 2009. Casue of death: Sudden Cardiac Arrest.

Goodnight sweet prince

she died today and the article must be updated accordingly

Brittnay Murphy died on December 20, 2009 of an apparent heart attack, age 32.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/20/2009-12-20_actress_brittany_murphy_dies_at_32_of_heart_attack_report.html

WP:RS, WP:BLP, WP:V. --Yamla (talk) 19:42, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

That link you've provided is for the gossip column at the NY Daily News. That's right, the gossip column. Doctorbob (talk) 19:44, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be sweet 'princess'? --Muboshgu (talk) 19:56, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

ABC confirming...

Per this Twitter update; ABC is trying to confirm this. [6] I will update as it's confirmed.

- PoinDexta1 | Talk to Me 19:45, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

• The Atlanta Journal-Constitution is also reporting it but is only citing TMZ. It may be slightly premature to update the page. —C.Fred (talk) 19:53, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Of course. If and when ABC confirms it; there we have our verifiable source to assert enough for the article to be changed. Still no progress, yet. PoinDexta1 | Talk to Me 19:58, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/star-clueless-mile-actress-brittany-murphy-dies/story?id=9385992

"...according to the gossip Web site TMZ.com". Emphasis mine. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

The Associated Press is only confirming that there was a 911 call and a crew was called there. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 20:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

ABC's actual news site (not the gossip page) says - "Crews Called to Home of Brittany Murphy's Husband": http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=9386200 Rorschach 20:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

ABC runs it

ABC has decided to run the story, which means the sources checked out: [7]. --Smashville^talk 20:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Really? Because the only source they cite is TMZ. --Muboshgu (talk) 20:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm still somewhat uncertain about it, saying as it only references TMZ. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hmm, still only citing TMZ though – which it mentions in all but the last paragraph... matt (talk) 20:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. I'd wait for indep. verification before publishing it. ffm is now LFaraone 20:15, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

ABC is a reliable source. Is it up to us to rely on their source to be reliable as well? --Smashville^talk 20:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, ABC are only saying that she has "reportedly" died. ABC aren't exactly commiting themselves here, either. Doctorbob (talk) 20:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Death reported by coroner's office

http://www.thewrap.com/article/reported-brittany-murphy-dies-cardiac-arrest-12030

Don't know how reliable thewrap is thought. MorganaFiolett (talk) 20:14, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Chicago Tribune agrees: http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ktla-brittaney-murphy,0,614448.story That'll do it...Sqlman (talk) 20:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

KTLA is the 2nd source. http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-brittaney-murphy,0,5929592.story Pxlt (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

How sad, but they do look like reliable sources. I think the article can be updated. Basket of Puppies 20:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Quote from Trib story: "Actress Brittany Murphy died after being hospitalized in Los Angeles Sunday morning, the Los Angeles County Coroner's office has confirmed." They credit TMZ as breaking the story, not as their (sole) source. —C.Fred (talk) 20:18, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

So admins, unprotect the page now, please. — CIS ^(talk | stalk) 20:18, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Inclined to agree: If we get a rush of major news sources confirming the story off the back of a coroners report, we should be good to go. Right, not first people. Doctorbob (talk) 20:22, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Even if it turns out to be false, isn't the fact that almost every major news source reported that she's dead in of itself worth mentioning on the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.102.198.19 (talk) 20:19, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Can an admin remove the text "TMZ Confirmed that she passed away today in Los Angeles. 12.20.09" that's repeated three times in the infobox? — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 20:23, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Somebody got it. I wasn't able to find out where they smuggled it into the infobox code. —C.Fred (talk) 20:27, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

It was in an obscure template that happened to not be protected. I had to resort to filtering recent changes to the template namespace to find it, I couldn't get it out of the overcomplicated template calls. -- Cyrius|✎ 20:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

• I have requested unprotection. Basket of Puppies 20:23, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Is there a reason that the Chicago Tribune is being cited even though they're just reprinting KTLA's story? Pxlt (talk) 20:34, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Probably gets more hits by virtue of being the Tribune and thus pops up higher on Google. --Smashville^talk 20:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Lock icon

If the article is locked, the lock icon should be displayed. Jason Quinn (talk) 20:25, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Why the big hurry?

This is an encyclopedia, not Headline News. Once (if) the story is confirmed and there are encyclopedic details to add, THEN the article should be updated. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 20:26, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Because people always come here first for breaking news, at least I do. — CIS ^(talk | stalk) 20:29, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed per the Trib. --Smashville^talk 20:30, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

"This is an encyclopedia, not Headline News." Theoretically. In reality, WP is such a high traffic website, people come here immediately when such news breaks, and if they will edit the article, they will. Until we lock it, then they can't. ;-) --Jatkins ^{(talk - contribs)} 20:32, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. In addition, a sensible solution to the BLPs dilemma instead of flagged revisions would be to automatically semi-protect any article for which there is a rumor of a death, or to semi-protect for a week after a confirmed death. Just watch and see: almost all the IP edits here will be vandalism. The 1-in-100 IP edit that is a good faith edit does not justify allowing the 99 others. Jason Quinn (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

New source that cites Ashton Kutcher

From the Sydney Morning Herald: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/people/hollywood-actress-brittany-murphy-dead-reports-20091221-l7qr.html

Actor Ashton Kutcher, who starred with Murphy in the 2003 film Just Married, spoke about the actress's death on micro-blogging platform Twitter.

"[Today] the world lost a little piece of sunshine," he wrote just after 7am [AEDT].

"My deepest condolences go out 2 Brittany’s family, her husband, & her amazing mother Sharon."

121.44.35.185 (talk) 20:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

WP:BLP

This article is protected because of "excessive" violations of WP:BLP. Given that the subject is not a living person (anymore), this is not an acceptable reason for protection. Bubbaprog (talk) 20:37, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

MTV is reporting it.

[8] But they are citing TMZ. Still though, this is tragic. Dexter111344 (talk) 20:40, 20 December 2009 (UTC)