Talk:Enjo kōsai

USA

I don't think this is anything new in the USA - it has gone on for a long time and probably goes on in most countries

Agreed, but there seems to a fascination with Japan which ensures even the most banal parts of it's culture are endlessly documented on Wikipedia... Barryvalder 02:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Not trying to be too much of a comedian here, but we have this in America, and it's called marriage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cssaunders (talk • contribs) 06:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Macrons

The use of macrons is inconsistent in this article. My dictionary lists kousai as the correct form, so presumably there should be a macron in every instance of the word.

Name Spelling

Enjo Kousai is the best form, although enjo kōsai and enjo koosai are both technically correct. It depends on the romajii system being used. Enjo kosai, as it is now, is simply incorrect. Hopefully, the article will take the kousai title after the merger. (Unidentified)

See: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_for_Japan-related_articles WhisperToMe 03:17, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Just to be clear- koosai would never be an acceptable romanization of this article, as "oo" romaji never refers to the dipthong "ou," but instead always refers to the extended "oo." I should have realized writing a lecture on proper romaji usage to someone who spelled "romaji" wrong though might be a waste of time.75.217.60.119 (talk) 11:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Japanese Link

I'm assuming the Japanese link to a page other than 援助交際 (Enjo kosai) was a mistake, which I corrected. If I was wrong, please revert (but I hope you'll explain why). --Feitclub 03:33, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

Sugar Daddy

Why change back to remove a refference to the Western concept of Sugar daddy?

Mobile phones

I see two things wrong with this, so I removed it:

In Japan in 2000, there were an estimated 63.8 million mobile phones users.[1] The Japan Internet Association, a non-governmental organisation, reported that around one in three Japanese high school girls owns a mobile phone that can access the internet.

First, whats the relevance to the prevalence of mobile phones in Japanese high schools? Second, I highly doubt than only 1/3 high school girls own mobile phones. Something like 90% would be a bit more believable. Maybe the report alluded to (but not cited) is more than 10 years old, but I can not imagine japanese high schools with less than 80% prevalence of mobile phones in last several years. Shinhan 12:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Coming-of-age ritual

I didn't see how the text "Others, especially within the Japanese academic establishment, see enjo kōsai as a coming-of-age ritual that has naturally developed in Japan's contemporary capitalist society." was relevant (I actually think it's sort of dangerous, philosophically wise), so I placed it under comments. Guille ^.~ 01:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Merger proposal

This talks about the same phenomena seen in the examples of the "Age disparity in sexual relationships" article.2_of_8 (talk) 16:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

You should add merge templates if you want people to comment. 70.55.85.177 (talk) 08:18, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I thought I did... anyways, It's always difficult to get somebody to agree to merge an article on a Japanese phenomenon. I always get responses saying that the Japanese translation of an English word talks about something much too different and unique. Gah. 2_of_8 (talk) 19:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

• I would be opposed to the merger. There are several articles extant that are linked to from your proposed merge target. This would just be another related article, as there are several already. This article is also many many times larger than the target, so it would in effect, turn that article into an enjo kosai article, instead of an overview or generalist article. 70.55.85.177 (talk) 08:18, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose. It's a uniquely Japanese phenomenon that covers more than just Age Disparity, but other things such socio-economic issues as well as legal prostitution. BillyTFried (talk) 00:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Link to WaiWai column

The link under "bibliography" was a link to the now removed WaiWai Column on the Mainichi daily news. The link is dead, and the articles have been removed with an appology by the newspaper, as they were not known to be well sourced or even fact checked. Either way the link was 404, and not reliable enough to be source material. Mainichi's apology for their WaiWai Column : http://mdn.mainichi.jp/20080720/0628.html Confirming the linked article came from WaiWai : http://www.theage.com.au/world/japanese-set-the-blogs-on-sleazy-australian-writer-20080704-31w7.html?page=-1 131.107.0.75 (talk) 20:38, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Age of consent in Japan

"The law made the [nation-wide?] legal age limit 18 for consenting sexual activities..."

This sentence apparently contradicts the article on Ages of consent in Asia, which says that the "national age of consent in Japan is 13" but "prefectures can have local ordinances that prohibit sexual activities with any minor under 18." Maybe the person who wrote the above statement was thinking of a specific prefecture, but in any case they neglected to add a supporting source. --Keith111 (talk) 10:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Or perhaps "consenting prostitution activities" was intended instead of "consenting sexual activities." --Keith111 (talk) 10:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

The statement is correct. The 1999 law was not prefectural. The article of consent in Asia is outdated by at least ten years. You could have just read the law and found that out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.217.60.119 (talk) 11:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)