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Please refer to [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization)]], [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music)]] & especially [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions]] for the title of this article. For article '''titles''' we follow these conventions - regardless of what the "common" capitalization may be; variations such as irregular capitalizations are put in the article itself. The word from here is a [[Grammatical conjunction|coordinating conjunction]] and therefore the article title is f/lower cap. [[User:Skier Dude|<span style="color:ForestGreen">Skier Dude</span>]] ([[User_talk:Skier Dude|<span style="color:SaddleBrown">talk</span>]]) 05:50, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Please refer to [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization)]], [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music)]] & especially [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions]] for the title of this article. For article '''titles''' we follow these conventions - regardless of what the "common" capitalization may be; variations such as irregular capitalizations are put in the article itself. The word from here is a [[Grammatical conjunction|coordinating conjunction]] and therefore the article title is f/lower cap. [[User:Skier Dude|<span style="color:ForestGreen">Skier Dude</span>]] ([[User_talk:Skier Dude|<span style="color:SaddleBrown">talk</span>]]) 05:50, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
*Naming conventions don't trump reliable sources, sorry. And, unless you're planning on changing [[anyone lived in a pretty how town]] sometime soon, you're just completely and totally wrong here. [[User:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#999999">Unit</span>]][[User talk:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#63739F">'''''Anode'''''</span>]] 06:05, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
*Naming conventions don't trump reliable sources, sorry. And, unless you're planning on changing [[anyone lived in a pretty how town]] sometime soon, you're just completely and totally wrong here. [[User:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#999999">Unit</span>]][[User talk:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#63739F">'''''Anode'''''</span>]] 06:05, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

== Whataya Want from Me ==

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[[:Whataya Want From Me]] → [[Whataya Want from Me]] —
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Moving discussion from my talk page to more appropriate venue:

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:"Whataya Want '''f'''rom Me" is a non-standard spelling, and -- in lieu of discussing your view -- you abuse your deletion tool to enforce a non-standard spelling? Seriously? [[User:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#999999">Unit</span>]][[User talk:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#63739F">'''''Anode'''''</span>]] 05:28, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:*And do '''not''' label in "uncontroversial" in the edit summary, when it's not. [[User:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#999999">Unit</span>]][[User talk:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#63739F">'''''Anode'''''</span>]] 05:30, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:*[http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/01/15/adam-lambert-whataya-want-video/ Here] is just one example. [[User:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#999999">Unit</span>]][[User talk:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#63739F">'''''Anode'''''</span>]] 05:33, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:*[http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/01/american-idols-adam-lambert-whataya-want-from-me-video-oprah-winfrey.html And another] example. [[User:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#999999">Unit</span>]][[User talk:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#63739F">'''''Anode'''''</span>]] 05:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:*[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1629774/20100114/lambert_adam_american_idol_.jhtml One last example] for you. I'd strongly advise you to never use your administrative tools to undo a legitimate move again. [[User:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#999999">Unit</span>]][[User talk:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#63739F">'''''Anode'''''</span>]] 05:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::You may want to carefully read [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization)]], [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music)]] & especially [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions]] before making unfounded accusations. For article '''titles''' we follow these conventions - regardless of what the "common" capitalization may be; variations such as irregular capitalizations are put in the article itself. The word from here is a [[Grammatical conjunction|coordinating conjunction]] and therefore the article title is f/lower cap. [[User:Skier Dude|<span style="color:ForestGreen">Skier Dude</span>]] ([[User_talk:Skier Dude|<span style="color:SaddleBrown">talk</span>]]) 05:47, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::P.s. - "move war" (your edit summary)?? 2 editors, [[User:Aspects|Aspects]] & I, have followed the clear conventions to move this to the correct title - so, where's the war? [[User:Skier Dude|<span style="color:ForestGreen">Skier Dude</span>]] ([[User_talk:Skier Dude|<span style="color:SaddleBrown">talk</span>]]) 05:55, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::So, we don't do reliable sources anymore? [[User:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#999999">Unit</span>]][[User talk:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#63739F">'''''Anode'''''</span>]] 06:02, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::For an example of how MOS doesn't trump RS, see [[anyone lived in a pretty how town]]. [[User:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#999999">Unit</span>]][[User talk:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#63739F">'''''Anode'''''</span>]] 06:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::For article titles, no; for the contents of the article, yes. The article titles reflect standard/proper English, while the article contents give the variations... Your example is one that needs to be corrected... I can trump that and give hundreds: [[User:Skier Dude/My Sandbox/bad albums]]. Also, you may note that [[WP:RS]] discusses article content and the theme/issue of titles isn't mentioned. [[User:Skier Dude|<span style="color:ForestGreen">Skier Dude</span>]] ([[User_talk:Skier Dude|<span style="color:SaddleBrown">talk</span>]]) 06:13, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::You'd better go change the titles of all cummings' poems then. As for RS, I am talking about what the sources label the song as, and ''that'' overrides MOS concerns in totality. The sources clearly capitalize the "f", just as the sources ''don't'' capitalize the title of cummings' poems. Sorry, but MOS and your opinion don't override what the sources say. [[User:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#999999">Unit</span>]][[User talk:Unitanode|<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-variant:small-caps;color:#63739F">'''''Anode'''''</span>]] 06:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
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Naming conventions

Please refer to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization), Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music) & especially Wikipedia:Naming conventions for the title of this article. For article titles we follow these conventions - regardless of what the "common" capitalization may be; variations such as irregular capitalizations are put in the article itself. The word from here is a coordinating conjunction and therefore the article title is f/lower cap. Skier Dude (talk) 05:50, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whataya Want from Me

Whataya Want From MeWhataya Want from Me

Moving discussion from my talk page to more appropriate venue:


"Whataya Want from Me" is a non-standard spelling, and -- in lieu of discussing your view -- you abuse your deletion tool to enforce a non-standard spelling? Seriously? UnitAnode 05:28, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You may want to carefully read Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization), Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music) & especially Wikipedia:Naming conventions before making unfounded accusations. For article titles we follow these conventions - regardless of what the "common" capitalization may be; variations such as irregular capitalizations are put in the article itself. The word from here is a coordinating conjunction and therefore the article title is f/lower cap. Skier Dude (talk) 05:47, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
P.s. - "move war" (your edit summary)?? 2 editors, Aspects & I, have followed the clear conventions to move this to the correct title - so, where's the war? Skier Dude (talk) 05:55, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So, we don't do reliable sources anymore? UnitAnode 06:02, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For an example of how MOS doesn't trump RS, see anyone lived in a pretty how town. UnitAnode 06:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For article titles, no; for the contents of the article, yes. The article titles reflect standard/proper English, while the article contents give the variations... Your example is one that needs to be corrected... I can trump that and give hundreds: User:Skier Dude/My Sandbox/bad albums. Also, you may note that WP:RS discusses article content and the theme/issue of titles isn't mentioned. Skier Dude (talk) 06:13, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You'd better go change the titles of all cummings' poems then. As for RS, I am talking about what the sources label the song as, and that overrides MOS concerns in totality. The sources clearly capitalize the "f", just as the sources don't capitalize the title of cummings' poems. Sorry, but MOS and your opinion don't override what the sources say. UnitAnode 06:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]