Talk:Greater Sudbury

Good work Bearcat, I couldn't have done it better myself :-D. It's nice to see people use my version rather than that other horrid one floating around. -- Earl Andrew - talk 19:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Heh, I just copied and pasted it off Hamilton and made the necessary changes. Not all that hard. Bearcat 23:04, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Population figures

To the person/people who keep editing this article to guess at 2004 or 2005 population figures: Wikipedia should only reflect actual census data, not rough yearly estimates (especially not ones that can't be sourced). Please do not alter the population figure until the 2006 census results are released. Bearcat 23:12, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Radio stations

CHNO called itself "Daryl 103" for exactly one freaking day as a show of support for Canadian Idol competitor Daryl Brunt. It is not to be noted as the station's primary brand name in place of Z103. Bearcat 02:26, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Demographics

The homelessness and food bank figures that were added to the article require a source. Also, regarding the assertion about Ontario Works rates not adequately meeting housing costs, that's a pretty standard Ontario-wide problem. Sudbury is far from unique in that regard; it doesn't merit special mention here. Though, come to think of it, Kimberly Rogers probably does. Bearcat 05:26, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

I changed the line about it being the largest city in area in Canada outside quebec. even the link that that line leads to shows that wood buffalo in alberta, and halifax in nova scotia are larger than sudbury.

Wood Buffalo and Halifax are both regional municipalities, not cities. Greater Sudbury is, areawise, the largest municipal entity in English Canada to be designated as a city. Bearcat 06:25, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

A 'regional municipality' is a 'municipal entity' - it's very title, and your use of it show this to be true-this statement: 'it is now the largest city in Ontario, and the largest city in Canada outside of Quebec' is NOT true, at all. Halifax is a city-the mayor attends the meetings of the 'largest cities in canada' ( http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1074865764683_32?s_name=&no_ads= ), and i don't think it is possible to find a map of the country which would not list Halifax as a city. I see what you're trying to say-and I know where you're going with it, but the way you keep stating it in the article is misleading. Perhaps you could discount Wood Buffalo as a city, but I really don't think that you can say that Halifax isn't one.

Perhaps it could be changed to say that Sudbury is the second largest in Canada outside of Quebec? I think this would be more accurate-it's a great entry otherwise by the way-good work. :)

Well, it's not really about how I wrote it; it wasn't originally my addition. Thing is, we really can't let popular understanding trump accuracy; while "regional municipality" and "city" are often effectively the same thing in practice, they're not the same thing in law, and Wikipedia cannot say they are. But I'll try to find a way to rephrase the sentence so that it addresses your concern without actually presenting an inaccurate picture of the situation. Bearcat 00:11, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I think that's better Bearcat, now that you put in the bit about 'legally designated as a city'. I just think that before there might have been confusion between the legal definition of city, and how it applies here, and the common usage of the word. Good revision. :)

Possible Things to Add

As a resident of the Valley area, I've heard a few things about our city (Sudbury): -recently CBC radio mentioned Sudbury as being in the top 21 most intelligent cities in the world (has something to with use of technology) - I've heard it said that Sudbury has one of (if not the highest) crime rates per capita in Canada - and would it be notable enough to mention our technology sector as an industry (there's that company that's developing the drill that may be used in future space missions to Mars)

Could someone with better knowledge of these things adress them please? I too will try digging up some info.