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Not proud of this nom, but I don't think that this article meets the notability requirements, as well as vioalting WP:NOTMEMORIAL (the main source, or rather only source, is memorial enough). There is only one source regarding the incident in question, and it's about as close to hardly third-party; the remainder are merely short bios and I am unable to find any other references. There were thousands upon thousands of skirmishes and firefights in the Vietnam War, and I don't see what makes this one notable above the rest or enough for an article. None of the six Marines seem to meet the notability requirements on thier own, either. There is also a WP:COI issue: The author claims to be a relative of one of the six Marines killed. At best, it could be merged into 3rd Reconnaissance Battalion. bahamut0013^words _deeds 21:16, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. —bahamut0013^words _deeds 21:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete appreciate Bahamut0013 problem with nomination but (WP:DUCK) it looks just like a memorial page. No indication that this action was any more notable then any other deaths in Vietnam, doesnt appear to be notable enough to be mentioned at 3rd Reconnaissance Battalion. MilborneOne (talk) 21:30, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Insufficient information to justify a full article for the six marines; the page would do better merged into the unit the served with. As a side not here, I note for the record that the article article Herbert Lang resided at the page Flight Time until the it was moved to Herbert "Flight Time" Lang to make way for this newer article. Closing admins may wish to consider returning Herbert to his original location if the afd closes as delete. TomStar81 (Talk) 21:32, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep lets give the editor time to clean it up.. lets tell him our concerns ..this deleting of articles without proper time for corrections is not proper and is very inconsiderate to all this new editors that have taken the time to make them!!..it reads like a momorial then lets tell him that so he can fix it..no way a new editor will ever know all the guidelines (over 2000 pages of them)...Buzzzsherman (talk) 21:46, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The author surely thought it was ready after working on it in his sandbox for a few days and then requesting for it to be moved to mainspace. Having been around since July, I think he should have enough of a grasp on our policies and guidelines to be expected to understand one of the most important: Notability. And in any case, that's not something time or more editing can fix. He really can't do anything to make the event or people more notable. bahamut0013^words _deeds 21:59, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this is history "the LAST full recon team to be totaly wiped out all at once "the last team in the whole war" if thats not historicl the what is ? Mlpearc (talk) 22:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a book "Never Without Heroes" by Lawerencw C Vetter Mlpearc (talk) 22:59, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, I think it's notable that this was the "last full team from the 3rd Reconnaissance Battalion of six men killed in action during the Vietnam War". - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) ^talk 23:08, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep These Marines and Corpsman paid the ultimate price for freedom, are we so in need of server space to forget them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.90.93.98 (talk) 00:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is not a memorial! This is a part of USA history. the vietnam war was a signaficate part of USA history, this article is about a Whole Team of recon marines to die, the team died which wiped out the 3rd recon. Thank you fellow americans and all the people/teams who gave thier lives for us, if it was'nt for them, do you think we would be able do "wiki" and have the freedom we have?! thank you connie keever

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+:Keep This is not a memorial! This is a part of USA history. the vietnam war was a signaficate part of USA history, this article is about a Whole Team of recon marines to die, the team died which wiped out the 3rd recon. Thank you fellow americans and all the people/teams who gave thier lives for us, if it was'nt for them, do you think we would be able do "wiki" and have the freedom we have?! thank you connie keever