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*'''Keep''' Historical documents pertaining to article are still being populated, yet references are abundant despite the Google sources cited herein. Wikipedia style methods and references to be adjusted according to Wikipedia standards. How do I go about finding out which changes need to be adjusted to be in accordance to Wikipedia standards? [[User:AlistairBooya|AlistairBooya]] ([[User talk:AlistairBooya|talk]]) 02:16, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Historical documents pertaining to article are still being populated, yet references are abundant despite the Google sources cited herein. Wikipedia style methods and references to be adjusted according to Wikipedia standards. How do I go about finding out which changes need to be adjusted to be in accordance to Wikipedia standards? [[User:AlistairBooya|AlistairBooya]] ([[User talk:AlistairBooya|talk]]) 02:16, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::'''Comment''' The issue is that this is likely a subject that no matter how much work you do on it there is no way to make it meet the notability criteria. Its been a while since I was involved in this sort of thing but from what I've done in the past I know you need evidence of significant news coverage, preferably more than just local coverage. Nothing I've seen so far shows that this local has reached that threshold. I accept that I might be wrong in that opinion (and hope for your sake that I am considering the amount of work you've put in) hence I brought it here to be discussed by the community. Not everything justifies a Wikipedia article no matter how much you may want it to, and the discussion here will give certainty to the matter. It sucks, I know. I also know that the Miss America's Outstanding Teen ''state'' (not local) articles were considered non-notable after I'd gone through and created an article for each state pageant. Eventually all the articles were merged into a single one. It sucked, but these things happen. Its just Wikipedia. <b><i>[[User:PageantUpdater|PageantUpdater]]<small> [[User talk:PageantUpdater|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PageantUpdater|contribs]] </small></i></b> 05:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

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Prod-ed this a few days ago, author did not remove prod but is new to Wikipedia and it is clear he'd like to contest the prod. He has added some references since that time and I'm assuming will continue to do so but I'm still not sure that it meets notability criteria. Rather than decide on my own I decided to bring it here for community debate. See also comments on the article's talk page, and his assertion on a Voy forum (I tried to link it but voy is blacklisted) that he is using the page as advertising (that notwithstanding though, if the subject is deemed notable it should stand, right?). PageantUpdater talkcontribs 23:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Extra note by nominator: please see author's comments on my talk page re this afd. Cheers. PageantUpdater talkcontribs 00:21, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Historical documents pertaining to article are still being populated, yet references are abundant despite the Google sources cited herein. Wikipedia style methods and references to be adjusted according to Wikipedia standards. How do I go about finding out which changes need to be adjusted to be in accordance to Wikipedia standards? AlistairBooya (talk) 02:16, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The issue is that this is likely a subject that no matter how much work you do on it there is no way to make it meet the notability criteria. Its been a while since I was involved in this sort of thing but from what I've done in the past I know you need evidence of significant news coverage, preferably more than just local coverage. Nothing I've seen so far shows that this local has reached that threshold. I accept that I might be wrong in that opinion (and hope for your sake that I am considering the amount of work you've put in) hence I brought it here to be discussed by the community. Not everything justifies a Wikipedia article no matter how much you may want it to, and the discussion here will give certainty to the matter. It sucks, I know. I also know that the Miss America's Outstanding Teen state (not local) articles were considered non-notable after I'd gone through and created an article for each state pageant. Eventually all the articles were merged into a single one. It sucked, but these things happen. Its just Wikipedia. PageantUpdater talkcontribs 05:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]