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**Your statement on [[Gartner]] is ridiculous, not even worth arguing. If Ektron is "just another behind the scenes tech business", how do you explain the entries for other content management companies of similar size and stature like [[Sitecore]] and [[Fatwire]]? If Ektron is to be removed, why not other content management vendors? Who gets to pick and choose which of a pool of very similar content management vendors should be included?<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Twentworth12|Twentworth12]] ([[User talk:Twentworth12|talk]] • <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 22:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--></small> |
**Your statement on [[Gartner]] is ridiculous, not even worth arguing. If Ektron is "just another behind the scenes tech business", how do you explain the entries for other content management companies of similar size and stature like [[Sitecore]] and [[Fatwire]]? If Ektron is to be removed, why not other content management vendors? Who gets to pick and choose which of a pool of very similar content management vendors should be included?<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Twentworth12|Twentworth12]] ([[User talk:Twentworth12|talk]] • <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 22:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--></small> |
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***Thanks for calling my attention to [[Sitecore]] and [[Fatwire]]. - [[User:Ihcoyc|Smerdis of Tlön]] ([[User talk:Ihcoyc|talk]]) 05:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC) |
***Thanks for calling my attention to [[Sitecore]] and [[Fatwire]]. - [[User:Ihcoyc|Smerdis of Tlön]] ([[User talk:Ihcoyc|talk]]) 05:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC) |
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It's really interesting to me that the trolls are going after all the enterprise CMS's - what about Drupal, Squiz, etc..? How do we know that you don't work for a CMS company and are just deleting information indiscriminately? |
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Promotion for non-notable company; given sources are non-significant and I have been unable to find any coverage that would pass GNG. Article was deleted by AfD a month ago, and this iteration was written by a manager at the company. Haakon (talk) 15:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
- This template must be substituted. Haakon (talk) 15:47, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
- This template must be substituted. Haakon (talk) 15:47, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Ektron is a leader in the content management space as identified by numerous 3rd party sources including Gartner, Forrester, CMS Watch, and 451 Group. This article provides the same factual information as other content management companies including Sitecore and Fatwire. Is this not a significant source? http://www.gartner.com/technology/media-products/reprints/oracle/article91/article91.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twentworth12 (talk • contribs) 15:56, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
- Keep. Based mostly on reliable sources. CMS Wire was debated to death at the Umbraco AfD. There is no consenus if that is a reliable source. But, for this article many other sources are easy to find besides those alredy in the article (Gartner, etc.) A quick search of google news archive also turned out a Infoworld comparison review (in print too) with the competing Macromedia product, a PC Magazine review, another review. Also book coverage: [1] [2] [3]. Pcap ping 16:26, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
- Delete and salt. Gartner is an investment research business. Their editors are the customers who hire them to prepare reports. Being included in their "magic quadrants" is insufficient for notability, that's just their version of a directory or "top 100" style listing. This has been deleted several times before, and should have been protected against re-creation. Book mentions all look trivial and incidental to me. The bottom line is that this is just another behind the scenes tech business that the general public does not interact with directly. A very persistent spammer. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
- Your statement on Gartner is ridiculous, not even worth arguing. If Ektron is "just another behind the scenes tech business", how do you explain the entries for other content management companies of similar size and stature like Sitecore and Fatwire? If Ektron is to be removed, why not other content management vendors? Who gets to pick and choose which of a pool of very similar content management vendors should be included?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Twentworth12 (talk • —Preceding undated comment added 22:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC).
- Thanks for calling my attention to Sitecore and Fatwire. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 05:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
- Your statement on Gartner is ridiculous, not even worth arguing. If Ektron is "just another behind the scenes tech business", how do you explain the entries for other content management companies of similar size and stature like Sitecore and Fatwire? If Ektron is to be removed, why not other content management vendors? Who gets to pick and choose which of a pool of very similar content management vendors should be included?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Twentworth12 (talk • —Preceding undated comment added 22:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC).
It's really interesting to me that the trolls are going after all the enterprise CMS's - what about Drupal, Squiz, etc..? How do we know that you don't work for a CMS company and are just deleting information indiscriminately?