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Hrangthan Chhungi

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Contested prod. Non-notable scholar. Fails WP:PROF StAnselm (talk) 05:33, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. At first sight the article would seem to have a few independent sources. I haven't dug into this subject yet, but it would help if the nominator could explain how those sources fail to meet our notability guidelines. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:16, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Most of the links are just to things Chhungi has written, but these are not "highly cited" in the sense of Note 1. The three other footnotes are: a quotation in a news report, a "welcome aboard" note in an in-house newsletter and the mention of her name on an organizational website. None of these remotely approach notability. StAnselm (talk) 01:53, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails notability. The statements in the article are all well-referenced, but only make the following claims:

She is a member of the India Evangelical Lutheran Church (1)
She has a doctorate (2,4)
She is or has been treasurer of the Society for Biblical Studies in India (3)
She is or has been secretary of one of the National Council of Churches in India committees (3)
She has written four articles (5, 6, 7, 8)

This is completely insufficient for notability as an academic under WP:Prof (academics usually have doctorates, and usually write dozens of papers). More generally, under WP:Notability, there is no evidence of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" (in contrast, for example, to D. S. Amalorpavadass, who did receive such coverage). To put it another way, there is no evidence given of anyone outside the Society for Biblical Studies in India and the National Council of Churches writing about this person.

Under WP:Notability (people), there is no evidence of "a notable award or honor" (doctorates are not notable), or of making "a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record." Senior churchmen (such as Samineni Arulappa) are generally notable, as are people who found new religious movements (such as Geevarghese Mar Ivanios), or people who have written multiple widely read books, but nothing notable in the Wikipedia sense is included in this article. -- Radagast3 (talk) 02:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Comment'''. At first sight the article would seem to have a few independent sources. I haven't dug into this subject yet, but it would help if the nominator could explain how those sources fail to meet our notability guidelines. [[User:Phil Bridger|Phil Bridger]] ([[User talk:Phil Bridger|talk]]) 20:16, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 **Most of the links are just to things Chhungi has written, but these are not "highly cited" in the sense of [[Wikipedia:Notability (academics)#Notes and examples|Note 1]]. The three other footnotes are: a [http://www.oikoumene.org/gr/news/news-management/eng/a/browse/17/article/1634/baptism-the-long-road-to.html quotation in a news report], a [http://www.nccindia.in/webapp/news/File/Newsletter2009/Easter-newsltr-09-1.pdf "welcome aboard" note in an in-house newsletter] and the [http://www.eccbangalore.org/activities.shtml mention of her name on an organizational website]. None of these remotely approach notability. [[User:StAnselm|StAnselm]] ([[User talk:StAnselm|talk]]) 01:53, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete'''. Fails notability.  The statements in the article are all well-referenced, but only make the following claims:
+::*She is a member of the India Evangelical Lutheran Church (1)
+::*She has a doctorate (2,4)
+::*She is or has been treasurer of the [[Society for Biblical Studies in India]] (3)
+::*She is or has been secretary of one of the National Council of Churches in India committees (3)
+::*She has written four articles (5, 6, 7, 8)
+:This is completely insufficient for notability as an academic under [[WP:Prof]] (academics usually have doctorates, and usually write dozens of papers). More generally, under [[WP:Notability]], there is no evidence of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" (in contrast, for example, to [[D. S. Amalorpavadass]], who did receive such coverage). To put it another way, there is no evidence given of anyone '''outside''' the Society for Biblical Studies in India and the National Council of Churches writing about this person.
+:Under [[WP:Notability (people)]], there is no evidence of "a notable award or honor" (doctorates are not notable), or of making "a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record." Senior churchmen (such as [[Samineni Arulappa]]) are generally notable, as are people who found new religious movements (such as [[Geevarghese Mar Ivanios]]), or people who have written multiple widely read books, but nothing notable in the Wikipedia sense is included in this article. -- [[User:Radagast3|Radagast3]] ([[User talk:Radagast3|talk]]) 02:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)