Talk:Georges Seurat

I can see why this was marked for cleanup way back when - there is a massive treatise on the scientific technology of the day, much bigger than the story of Seurat's own life. That section was originally only two paragraphs, but I've added another. It seems as though the article was written more with displaying the scientific influences on Seurat rather than the more well-known artistic influences, which are barely (if at all) mentioned. I'm not really sure what to do about that, so more insight into this would be very helpful. -Aeinome 06:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

The explanation of the scientific influences might fit better into the Pointillism article. I started to extract it, but it is written with a Seurat focus and I didn't get very far. >>sparkit|TALK<< 03:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Scientism in Seurat's Work

You pointed a general problem about the interpretation of Seurat's work: in the literature before the 1990's, Seurat's art is often mentioned as being exclusively science oriented. It is only recently (and especially in Herbert, 2004: Seurat and the making of La Grande Jatte) that the work of Seurat as been formally situated amongst artists of his time.

Evidence that Seurat had two sons?

This article mentions that shortly after Seurat's death in 1891 that a second son was born (name unknown) - this is a major surpirse to me! I have not read anywhere that Seurat had a second son. I doubt if this statement is correct. What is the evidence? 203.12.30.146 01:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC) Nick

external links

Here: http://www.allpaintings.org/v/Impressionism/Georges-Pierre+Seurat/ are 150 images from Seurat's works. Images have the year, genre, support and localization. It's an interesting link. --Oriolhernan 12:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

It is linkspam. Please read WP:EL re: guidelines on links which are encyclopedic, and those which are not (for instance, those with many advertisements). JNW 14:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Social Commentary

There's more than color theory. Someone versed in contemporary scholarship should summarize the social commentary in his works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.30.11 (talk) 03:12, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was page moved.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 18:19, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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Georges-Pierre Seurat → Georges Seurat — Twofold: he is better known as simply Georges Seurat than as Georges-Pierre Seurat, and the sources that do use Georges-Pierre are contradicted by the equally large number of sources that use Georges Pierre (without the dash). So we aren't even certain that the current title is a correct version of his name, while the proposed new name is universally recognised and certainly also correct. Fram (talk) 09:11, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

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• Support. More familiar as Georges Seurat, as the search results below show. Most likely the only reason the Google Books result is less lopsided than others is because many books (e.g. the 2007 MOMA catalog) document his full birth name once, while referring to him as Georges Seurat throughout the remainder of the book. Ewulp (talk) 07:36, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

Some evidence (anecdoctical, but still) of the used names: Musée d'Orsay: [1], Getty Museum[2], MoMA[3], Metropolitan Museum of Art[4], Morgan Library and Museum[5], Cleveland Museum of Art[6], Christie's[7]

Counter-eaxample: Fitzwilliam Museum[8].

Google News has 4820 articles with "Georges Seurat"[9], and only 176 for "Georges Pierre Seurat" (with or without dash)[10]. The results are less extreme with Google Books, with 1093 "Georges Seurat"[11] vs. 623 "Georges Pierre Seurat"[12]. Then again, Google Scholar has over 2,000 "Georges Seurat"[13] against only 127 "Georges Pierre Seurat"[14]. Fram (talk) 09:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.