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March 2

Is there easy way to get diffs of my contributions on particular articles?

I've been falsely accused of not contributing to our articles about climate change. Is there an easy way to get a list of diffs for my contributions on particular articles? I have this[1] but would like to narrow it down some. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 00:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Gather together the names of the climate articles you've contributed to and then you can post the results of this type of search for each .--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

You might also check out Soxred's tool for your username. And see WP:EIW#Count. --Teratornis (talk) 06:33, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Create new tables

Can someone help me to make new tables with more than one columns on the national champions section for this and this article? The current tables are too long. Thank you to whom are willing to help. Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 03:27, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

What kind of help do you need? Is there some reason why you cannot edit the tables yourself? --Teratornis (talk) 06:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't have the time and I'm not a table expert. I made this request to find people who are willing to help, who have the tools. I never force anyone to do it. Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 06:24, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Here is one way to do it with an outer table having a single row of 3 cells which each contain a table: [2]. Is that OK? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Looks nice, thank you very much. Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 01:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

What do you consider to be unauthorized copy right information

I am trying to write a page about one of the oldest hardware and locksmith stores in NYC and I have express permission from the owners to use and and all content they have on their websites as well copies of their receipts of any famous person who has ever shopped in their store. I don't understand why you keep deleting my page when I have provided you the contact info of the owner to verify the information if you so feel obliged to do so. I think this is very ridiculous that you would just lump everyone and everything they say as stolen information without taking time to verify it. Dayan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdayan (talk • contribs) 04:28, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you see the notice at the bottom of the blog page which says "© locksmithnyc"? That is an express claim of copyright unlimited by any free license also stated there. So, you assert you have permission. Do you think that every time someone asserts permission we then bear the onus of checking whether that unsupported claim is true? Of course we can't. Then, we also have seen many times people claiming they do have permissions when they in fact do not. In order for us to allow this material to be used, we would need to be shown in a way that substantiated the authority of the person making the claim that they are releasing the material under a free license compatible with ours (or into the public domain). Do you and the owners you claim you have the permission of understand that in order for us to use the material they have to irrevocably license it not just for use here, but use anywhere, including commercial use by others? If they want to, the ways of showing permission and release under a free license are set forth at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted material. Essentially, the website owners need to post a free license at the external website, or they need to send an email from an email address linked to the website to permissions-en@wikimedia.org, ideally with text from the template at WP:CONSENT. We can't use it even if you do have permission if it isn't released, and we can't base whether it has been properly released on someone simply saying it is so.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Deleting a "votes for deletion page"

Dear Indopedia users,

Several years ago as a practical joke, a friend in high school made an offensive and inaccurate wikipedia page in my name and it has since been picked up by Indopedia. There, it was recognized as an insult-page and given a speedy trigger. Still, the record of it being deleted remains its own page, with an excerpt of this insulting original page, and is the FIRST google hit when my name is searched. This hurts my career and I want it off but have no indopedia account to get rid of it. Can anyone help or give advice please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fred167 (talk • contribs) 07:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

If the information you want to have removed exists only on Indopedia, you should take it up with the administrators there - en.wikipedia (where you are now) is a separate project and we have no jurisdiction over that site. If there is a page here on Wikipedia that needs attention, and it is not possible/satisfactory for you to simply remove the information from the page (which would be the case with a deletion log, which is what I believe you described above), then you can make a request for suppression, which if granted would remove the material completely from Wikipedia. Does this answer your question? Gonzonoir (talk) 08:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

There is a list of Indopedia administrators here; I'd suggest contacting whichever one deleted the page about you on Indopedia in the first place. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Fred167 subsequently contacted me, so I thought I should add a clarification here: there was never an article about him on Indopedia; the article and the discussion both took place here, I speedied the article on here as an unsourced WP:BLP violation, and Indopedia is simply holding a mirrored copy of our AFD discussion. The discussion has been courtesy-blanked on here, and I've advised Fred that we don't actually have any direct control over Indopedia to get the page deleted there. However, I do think that if possible, it would be appropriate for somebody from Wikipedia to assist him, if at all possible, since the issue does involve content that was posted here. Bearcat (talk) 17:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I misread in Fred's original post the location of the problematic page, and didn't want to ask what the page here had been called (to avoid asking the user to "out" his real-world identity). I left him a welcome note on his talk page and am very happy to help with anything else. Gonzonoir (talk) 17:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Oy; I also didn't realise that Indopedia is just a straight 2004-era WP clone to the extent that http://www.indopedia.org/Indopedia:List_of_administrators.html here is actually just a list of Wikipedia administrators. So we actually really need someone with an Indopedia account who can delete (or at least blank) the page there. I will try and also find a contact email for someone with admin powers on there who could take down the content. Gonzonoir (talk) 17:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I won't name or link him here, since this is a fairly public space, but I'll pass on the name to you privately. I've also e-mailed the Oversight list to see if they can provide any assistance. Bearcat (talk) 17:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you kindly to both of you for your help. I appreciate the efforts. Sorry that I assumed you, bearcat, were an Indopedia user - you have a pretty detailed user profile on Indopedia that I now realize was just pulled from wikipedia in 2004. Thank you again and please keep me updated on whether it is possible to get rid of this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fred167 (talk • contribs) 19:05, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

That's okay — it's pretty appalling that Indopedia would even mirror user profiles. Anyway, we're doing what we can, so hopefully we can get this resolved soon. Bearcat (talk) 19:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

One can find the SEVEN users here. If one looks at "New Pages" the last one was added Xmas 2007... Very odd site.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 19:48, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, good gawd, even their VFD page is just a mirror of ours circa December 2004. This is nuts. Bearcat (talk) 20:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I think I have identified a contact address for Indopedia's one sysop as identified by Ronhjones - Bearcat, I will email you now to suggest a course of action for getting the page taken down. Gonzonoir (talk) 20:14, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Replied. Indeed, I think this is one of the oddest situations I've seen in a while now! Bearcat (talk) 20:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Related question, is that supposed to happen? Are mirrors allowed to mirror pages like this? That's really weird. SS✞^(Kay) 05:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Mirrors dispaly whatever they take. That's why it's suggested you post something on your User page indicating it's taken from your Wikipedia User page. Woogee (talk) 22:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Several templates are available for this purpose. I myself have added {{userpage}} to my user page. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:57, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Help with Categories

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

So, while thinking of names for my new fish, I decided to name them after some famous fictional sea-captains. While on my search for this, I found the Category of Fictional Captains. After reviewing the list, I noted one of the most famous fictional captains was not on the list; Capt'n Ahab. His info in not in a separate article. It is a section in the Moby Dick article. I tried, (unsuccessfully) to add him to this category, but failed miserably. So, I am asking for help/education; does something have to be an entirely separate article to be added to a category, or is there something I am missing? The Categorization FAQ was no help. --Avicennasis 07:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

There is a redirect to that section at Ahab(Moby-Dick), which I have now categorised for you. Sections of articles can't be categorised separately from the rest of the article, but redirects can be categorised. Bencherlite^Talk 07:59, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Aha! That's the trick. Thanks! --Avicennasis 08:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

See also List of sea captains#Fictional sea captains which can be edited and is a list in Wikipedia's terminology while Category:Fictional captains is not. The list starts with a piped link to Moby-Dick#Ahab:

Captain Ahab, fictional hero of Herman Melville's novel Moby-Dick

PrimeHunter (talk) 00:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Rollbacks without permission

I know that many scripts allow rollback to users - isn't that bad? It's supposed to be given by an administrator, not a click on the preferences... I have rollback, and now that I use Twinkle, it shows two rollback options.

My point is: Scripts like these let you do automated things. This could be VERY BAD if these scripts get into the wrong hands, or the wrong hands create such scripts, right?  Awesomeness  talk  12:44, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing when I first saw them. The rollbacks that you see (in WP:Twinkle probably) aren't really rollbacks. While they are called rollbacks, they are really only regular reverts. These are different from the rollbacking privileges that you were thinking of. —Akrabbim^talk 12:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

And in any case, problematic users can be blocked by admins from using Twinkle even as an option from the preferences menu. I don't think you need to be too worried about scripts getting into the wrong hands. Those who want to vandalise will do so with or without scripts, and will be blocked either way. Bencherlite^Talk 13:00, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Those tools are different from actual rollback (see WP:ROLLBACK for details). In case of misuse, rollback can be removed by an admin. There are ways to revoke these tools too (there is a blacklist for Twinkle, for example). Most of the tools also have some restrictions to prevent them from being misused (Twinkle requires users to be autoconfirmed, Huggle requires rollback). If somebody is deliberately using a tool for disruptive editing, they can be blocked easily enough, and the edits reverted just as easily as well. However, "wrong hands" creating them does happen; see meta:Vandalbot. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 13:05, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

why is your website so god damned fucked up ?

i tryed to sign in , which i did the first time . then it automatically signed me out and refused to let me sign in again . six fucking times i tryed to log in but it just kept taking me back to the log in page . if you can't make a website that work's then fuck you and your site . i wont be using it anymore and i wont be telling people to use your site anymore . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.13.69 (talk • contribs) 13:32, 2 March 2010

Please sing your comments with 4 tildas. At the end of your comments simply type four tildes (~), like this: ~~~~. Bus stop (talk) 13:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

And please don't use inappropriate language. I would suggest reading WP:CIVIL before commenting again. NerdyScienceDude :) (✉ click to talk • my edits • sign) 14:09, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't have the answer as to why this has happened to you, hopefully someone else will do. It would be good if you could ask politely though. The people who answer queries here are volunteers and don't actually have to do with the technical side of the website. --BelovedFreak 14:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Without knowing your user name, it's hard to actually check. My initial thought is that you have used the WikiBreak Enforcer - in which case, turn off javascript on your browser, log in, and edit your monobook.js (or whichever skin you are using). As we have many thousands of editors who successfully log in, then I would venture to suggest that the problem is not Wikipedia, but you - however, if you can give us your user name, we might actually be able to look into it, to see if there is a specific reason why you can't log in. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:15, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Your repugnant display above scarcely deserves the civil responses you've received.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Why is it 'vandalism'???

We are mentioned, as an architectural practice, in the Wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Architecture_Festival among other winners of the 2008 World Architecture Festival.

Some of the other architects have a link to a specific page in Wikipedia, but when I tried to do the same for my office, I was not allowed to.

Why? What is the difference between us? Why some of them can and some others cannot? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikarr77 (talk • contribs) 14:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I can't find where this is called vandalism. This contributor only has two edits, both to this page. RJFJR (talk) 14:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

To answer the question about why some of the architectural practices have their own articles, and others don't:

It's possible that some, but not all, of the practices meet Wikipedia's notability criteria - i.e. that some have been the subject of substantial coverage in multiple reliable sources, but others haven't. If your practice hasn't, then it doesn't satisfy notability and cannot have an article.

It's possible that others may have an article in cases when they shouldn't, because nobody has got around to reviewing that article's notability yet.

For general advice, have a look at the page "Other Stuff Exists", which sets out why it's not always safe to argue by analogy that a certain subject should have an article. Gonzonoir (talk) 17:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Wrong period of time in table with release date

Location: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_cache table in the right upper corner

What can I see: Stable release 3.1 beta / 3.0 / 2.7 / March 2, 2009; 11 month(s) ago

Today is: March 2, 2010

Time: 14:25 UTC

Question: So why is "11 month(s) ago" there? Shouldn't it be "12 months(s) ago"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.139.227 (talk) 14:25, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

It's using 31 days in a month to calculate how many months ago the release was. On a more technical level, this is a function of how {{release_date}} works, which uses {{time ago}}, which in turn uses {{time ago/core}}. {{time ago/core}} calculates the number of seconds between the current date and the date given, and divides that number by 2678400, the number of seconds in 31 days. Squid (software) should start displaying "12 month(s) ago" 7 days from now. --Mysdaao ^talk 15:27, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for investigation and your answer. Can someone change the code? It doesn't look good, i.e. it shows poor quality to Wikipedia users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.139.227 (talk) 10:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

{{time ago}} and {{time ago/core}} are fully protected so only administrators can edit it, and I am not one. You can request an administrator make the change by putting {{editprotected}} on the talk page of one of the templates along with an explanation of the change you want to be made. --Mysdaao ^talk 13:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Twinkle

I changed my preferences to include Twinkle on sunday on a different computer than I am using now, and used it sucsessfully, but today, despite having Twinkle turned on in my preferences, I cannot see the Twinkle toolbar. Please help. Immunize (talk) 14:28, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

What browser are you using on the computer you're using now? Twinkle does not work with some browsers, like Internet Explorer. --Mysdaao ^talk 14:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Revert help

I am attempting to revert the Article The Accident Group. But for some reason I am unable to do so. I think that there may be a technical issue involved. But I have edited other pages and I cannot fix this one for some reason. Any ideas?

What are you trying to revert? If there is no change made by your revert (i.e. the previous version which you are trying to restore is identical to the current version), nothing will happen. TNXMan 16:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Barbara Baird-Filliter

I wandered into the Wiki material concerning my biograghy and there are errors which affect me profoundly. Aside from the misleading gratuitous comments, I wish to advise that I was appointed to the Court of Queen's Bench in 2007, not to the provincial Court. Please coorect your records. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.139.0.53 (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

First, please note that Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that ANYONE can edit. By "ANYONE", it means "YOU." Yes, just click that little "edit" link at the top of the page and make the changes you like. Second, ensure that the changes you make are backed by reliable resources. Third, do not justify your claims by stating that you are the person the article is written about. For all we know, you are a hedgehog in a zoo in Portugal that has amazingly learned to type at a computer keyboard. Use reliable references to back your point. If you are the person, you should have ready access to many reliable resources. -- kainaw™ 18:20, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a policy that specifically related to biographies of living people, whereby any unsourced negative material should be removed as soon as possible. You certainly could have done so yourself, as Kainaw says, but asking here for it to be removed is a perfectly reasonable course; and I see that several editors have worked on the article today.

Should you be considering expanding the article yourself, please read WP:COI first.

Kainaw, to me your response looks just short of downright rude. Please remember WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF.

--ColinFine (talk) 21:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

My edit didn't happen

I logged in, did an edit on "Melanin." I previewed it, it looked fine. Then I pressed "Save". However, it did not change the main article. My edit did not appear on the article.

So, what did I do wrong, and how can I get it to take?18:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.51.74.89 (talk)

Do you mean this edit that was quickly reverted? -- kainaw™ 18:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

If not then what is your username, what did you change (did you try to add a url?), and what exactly happened when you pressed Save? For example getting an error message, remaining on the edit page, or returning to the article page with no change. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:03, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

One possibility is that you clicked on the "Save page" button, but before you let go, the mouse pointer slid off the button into a neutral area. For me, this usually results in the save not going through. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:09, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Template deletion notification

Hi there! I'd like to know something about notifications of templates that are nominated for deletion. Here for example:War_on_Terror. The template right under the infobox displays a notification that messes up the article layout. Where can I possibly find the notification template and see if I can fix it. I know this is only temporary, but still it doesn't have to be like this, even for a little while. Thanks in advance. --JokerXtreme (talk) 20:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Take a look at Template:Tfd-inline/doc; there appears to be at least one way to make the template smaller. Xenon54 / talk / 20:39, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll see what I can do. --JokerXtreme (talk) 20:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I can't find the actual template that says this: "‹ The template below is being considered for deletion. See templates for discussion to help reach a consensus. ›". The example is there on that page you provided, but the actual notification template is nowhere to be found. Take notice that this is automatically added before templates in pages where it is used, when the template is under TfD. --JokerXtreme (talk) 21:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

The actual message is "The template below (Campaignbox War on Terror) is being considered for deletion. See templates for discussion to help reach a consensus.". The first link takes you to the actual template. The second takes you to a page where you may comment on the proposed deletion. The message is generated by the {{Tfd}} template, which is the very first line in Template:Campaignbox War on Terror. The appearance of the Tfd message differs according to which namespace it is transcluded to, which is why it's a single line in the article, but a big box in the template. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I have "noincluded" the notice on the template page, so it still shows there, but does not show when the template is transcluded. I think that's fixed the layout problem. – ukexpat (talk) 21:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes it did, thank you! So, there's no way of displaying a small notification without a line? I think that's what causes all the damage. --JokerXtreme (talk) 21:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

In the {{tfd}} template, the one-line message is generated by this chunk of code:

<div class="boilerplate metadata plainlinks" id="tfd" style="background-color: transparent; padding: 0; font-size:xx-small; color:#000000; text-align: center; border-bottom:1px solid #AAAAAA;">‹ The [[Help:Template|template]] below {{#if:{{{1|}}}|(''[[Template:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]'')|}} is being considered for deletion. See [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#{{{2|Template:{{ucfirst:{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}}}|templates for discussion]] to help reach a consensus. ›</div>

Perhaps you could put a suggestion on Template talk:Tfd concerning the formatting of that line? --Redrose64 (talk) 21:44, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

So, it's the border bottom. I feel the urge to change it myself, but I'll do as you advice. --JokerXtreme (talk) 21:48, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

/=> I tried to do it, but the aligning was a little distorted, and I don't see an easy way to fix it. You might just leave it all distorted if you want to notify people about the article being possibly deleted. –turian^{обсудить} 03:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Looking for information about painter

Hi! This is mawgipawgi. I have four paintings by Ian or Jan Korthale or Northale. One is titled "Rue Geoffroy L'Anqguin Paris. I believe it is a watercolor. I did a search some years ago and found out about him, but forgot the correct apelling. The picture was printed in Holland. copyrighted by Donald Art Co. N.Y. H 1839. It was sold at Limbert's in Lebanon, Indiana and aren't in buiness anymore. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Mawgipawgi (talk) 21:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 21:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Creating redirect page

I am creating two articles that need to be redirect pages, how do I make it automatically redirect? I ROCK! WHOOOOHOOOO!!! KOF :) 22:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Simply create a page for the redirect name, just as you would if you were writing an article, then either copy and paste or type the text #REDIRECT [[Target page name]] as the only text on the page (obviously replacing "Target page name" with the article name you wish to redirect to), or place the same code in the page using the button above the edit screen which looks like this: . Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

If you wish, you may write here the names of the two redirects you need to create and established editors could go over them.▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:49, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

March 3

Reverting Updated Information

Hello,

I would like to update the Vancouver Convention Centre page with recent facts. Included in this update is the recent LEED Platinum awarding which has been circulating throughout the industry and is even mentioned on the official website (www.vancouverconventioncentre.com), but is not mentioned in the Wikipedia page. I've tried to update it before but the creator of the page will not allow me and I've tried in vain to contact this person. He/She has not been answering any of my messages on their talk page. If you could let me know if there is a way I can do this, it would be greatly appreciated.

Wikipedia article: Vancouver Convention Centre Wiki-user: Emarsee

Thanks, Saminoske (talk) 00:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, whoever the creator of the article is, they should not by any means be trying to prevent you from editing it. Are you making this update but the creator is undoing it? Who is the creator anyway? Mr. Prez (talk) 00:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, there are certain situations where you should not be editing an article in the first place. This is one of these situations. You stated on User talk:Emarsee that you work for the centre; this most certainly means you have a conflict of interest. After inspecting your edits it appears they also do not adhere to Wikipedia's policy requiring a neutral point of view for all articles. Your edits portray the centre in an unduly positive light, because of your conflict of interest. Please consider reading Wikipedia:Business FAQ. Xenon54 / talk / 01:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Post natal depression PPD

You article is unbalanced and as such, dangerous. The emphasis on evolutionary basis and insecurity of the newborn will exacerabate PPD in anyone who has it, Find a health professional to do a balanced article, focussing on the symptoms and the need to get help. It's not about unsubstantiated scientific hypotheses. It's about the millions of women who will log on looking for reassurance, but will find that they are "inadequate mothers who don't want their children". WRONG, DUMB, IRRESPONSIBLE. And not good for the husbands either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.209.87.234 (talk) 04:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. –turian^{обсудить} 04:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Turian, I don't think this question was astray. It was a comment specifically about the Wikipedia article, and this is an acceptable place to raise concerns like this. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

This page is only for questions about how to use Wikipedia. The appropriate place would be the article's talk page. –Turian (talk) 16:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

{{Astray}} (which I created) even if this question was not appropriate for the held desk, would not be a correct usage. Astray is for questions where the person asking apparently misunderstands where they are or how we are related to the subject of an article, thinking that we were linked directly with the subject, rather than an encyclopedia where an entry on the subject appears (a misplaced general knowledge question would not take astray, it would take one of the {{RD}} templates). Second, "only for using Wikipedia" has always been meant and interpreted broadly to encompass encyclopedia related issues, mostly to distinguish from general help issues, i.e., questions that belong at the reference desk.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Please read Wikipedia is a work in progress. If you have the expertise to make postpartum depression better, please be bold and do so. Note that we ask that when people contribute they attempt to cite to reliable sources which verifies the information they add. Especially articles which are not well sourced are often unbalanced and unreliable. Most people already know this about Wikipedia to some extent (while at the same time not understanding how to recognize whether an article is more likely to be reliable by looking at the sourcing). The article in question has multiple tags on it flagging that it is unreferenced which should give most people some idea as to how we feel about its reliability. Again, the best way to fix a problem you find is to roll up YOUR sleeves and get to work.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I am not a big fan of the "slap a maintenance tag on it" school of Wikipedia editing, but I've done just that on this article because I agree that it is horribly unreferenced at the moment and I think it is a good idea to make that quite clear to readers. (What I know about postnatal depression would fit on a Femodene pill, so I think this could do with the help of knowledgeable editors.) I've alerted the two Wikiprojects associated with the article as well, and have queried Wikiproject Medicine's assessment of the article as B class. With that many totally uncited sections I don't think it can possibly meet that standard. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:04, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

(Outdent) I have deleted the worst paragraph, more work needs done to that section and as noted the whole article actually. See discussion here for more information.Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Postpartum_depression. To the ip editor who first raised this problem, I would recommend be bold and edit the page. I have sent you a welcome message with more information on how to contribute to the encyclopedia, the encylopedia that anyone can edit. :)--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 13:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Where is a good place to let editors know about a new template I created?

Resolved

 – - here at least, discussion continues at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous). – ukexpat (talk) 19:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I just want to spread the word about a new template that I created, {{down arrow}}. You use it in the lead, to indicate the specific section in the body where the material will get greater coverage. I've tested it at Morse v. Frederick and Callisto and Roe v. Wade and sun, and I am hoping it catches on. Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 06:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

This should have been discussed before being implemented, since this introduces a major change to the appearance of our articles. If this is adopted, it would mean having to change the MOS guideline for lead sections. Perhaps you should discuss this at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals), with a link to the discussion from Wikipedia talk:Lead section. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 07:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

OK. I reverted the changes and have started a threat at village pump (misc). Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 08:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

basic template query.

Resolved

 – figured it out myself. {{#if:{{{argument}}}| output if argument is not empty | output if argument is empty.}} Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 20:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I would like {{myTemplate|X}} to render as [[#X|⬇]], and {{myTemplate|X|Y}} to render as [[#X|Y⬇]]. How would I code that?

Thanks. Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 08:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

For {{myTemplate|X}}, you can simply use [[#{{{1}}}|↓]]

For {{myTemplate|X|Y}}, you can use [[#{{{1}}}|{{{2}}} ↓]]

≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 09:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

But how do I create one template that does both. I assumed it would include an #IF. Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 14:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

my suggestion

when i look up some items,i found there are some template box that include the similar items in the bottom of the page. that is a great idea. but why don't you put some time lines to sort these items. for example the word "VXI",which is a computer bus standard (desktop),there are also some bus standard in the template box like PCI PCI-Express etc. if you provide a time line of the invent years of these standards,that would be easy to sort and clear to understand the before and after relationship.

so far ,thank you all for providing us a great web site,which, i think can be written in human history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.33.172.31 (talk) 09:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions. Wikipedia is made by volunteer editors, ordinary people like you, Please, be bold and make any changes to articles that you think appropriate. --BelovedFreak 17:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The suggestion is about a navigation template (called a navbox) Template:Computer bus. See Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. Navboxes are generally only for easy navigation to other articles and not additional information like invention years. That can be placed in list articles like List of computer bus interfaces. Certain navboxes, for example for annual or periodic awards and contests, may include the relevant year as in Template:AcademyAwardBestPicture 1981-2000. The invention year of a product is less closely related to the products inclusion in a navbox. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Formatting of Sydney Ferries page

Please see Sydney Ferries. On my browser (IE7) there is a large amount of white space after the first sentence, probably related to the size of the infobox on the right. I can't see how to fix this; can anyone help, please? Many thanks, --Richardrj ^{talk email} 10:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Not the infobx as such. There was an image directly after the first sentence. I moved the image up to below the infobox and used {{FixBunching}} to ensure the edit links did not bunch up. Thanks for noting your browser, as it looked OK in FireFox. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 11:33, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

forgoten pasword for my fax2email account

I <name redacted> Forgot my password for my fax2email account no:<redacted>, please help me by sending it to this email address  :(email address redacted)

Please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.246.230.235 (talk) 11:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but you seem to have landed up on the wrong page. This is a page for answering questions about how to use Wikipedia. If you've lost a password, you should contact the people who gave you the account. Good luck. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 11:10, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I have removed your personal details, and am contacting the oversight team to get these removed from the history of this page. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 11:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Deletion nomination error

Resolved

 – ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:29, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I nominated Wikipedia:Please bite the newbies for deletion using Twinkle and provided a reason, but the nomination is not showing up in that pages edit history or on Miscellany for deletion. Please sort this out. Immunize (talk) 14:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure how you expect people on the help desk to sort this one out for you: the Twinkle-assisted edits didn't go through (which happens sometimes) so no-one but you knows, or can know, what your rationale was. You'll have to complete the process manually, or try renominating the page for deletion via Twinkle and delete the duplicate warning. If you've got issues with Twinkle, then see WP:TWINKLE for its known limitations and its bug-reporting system. --Bencherlite^Talk 14:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Er, yes it is and the MFD discussion is -->this way. – ukexpat (talk) 19:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

who do I ask to get a block removed?

title pretty much sums it up, If someone can point me in the right direction that would be great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Throwaway93456 (talk • contribs) 16:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Every block and ban message explains how to do it. See Wikipedia:Block#Unblocking. -- kainaw™ 16:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks but its not really helpful as I was also blocked from editing my talk page, this block goes back over a year ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Throwaway93456 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The instructions are at Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks. If your talk page is not editable, you should send the unblock request to unblock-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org. Creating this account is considered an evasion of the block. Please don't use this account for anything else. Your unblock request may be denied if you continue to use this account. --Mysdaao ^talk 16:43, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Further, "do not use this account" also includes using IP addresses. It is simple to check which IP addresses are used by this account and match those up to posts that are made without logging in. Using an IP address to evade a block is just as bad as using an account to evade a block. -- kainaw™ 17:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Locating Move Tab

hello

I’m tyring to move a page in wiki. I started folowing the wiki instructions at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Moving_a_page#Before_moving_a_page

But am having no luck in moving my page

In particular in relation to the instructions re moving a page: The steps for moving a page are as follows:

1. With the correct page displayed, click on the "move" tab near the top of the page (in default Monobook skin)…

I cannot locate the "move" tab on my page which is the page on top of the stack at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AgRince

My reason for the move is:

My page is an article that has been created as a subpage of a Wikipedian's user or user talk space for development purposes and it is ready to be posted to the mainspace

I want to change the name from User:AgRince/Social Science Research on Greatness

To Social Science Research on Greatness

Any guidance much appreciated

AgRince (talk) 16:49, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The move tab appears when your account has been autoconfirmed. That normally happens after the account is four days and old and has made at least ten edits. Are you editing through a Tor network? If so, your account will be autoconfirmed when it is 90 days old and has made at least 100 edits.

You can request that your account be confirmed by going to Wikipedia:Requests for permissions and following the instructions there. --Mysdaao ^talk 17:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

You can also request the move by following the instructions at Requested Move - but it takes 7 days before it will happen, you might want to consider a post at request for feedback to make sure your page will be suitable for Article space.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 20:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Note that your page title does not conform to Wikipedia's guideline at WP:LOWERCASE. Also see WP:NOTWIKI and WP:LAYOUT. And be aware that most new articles by brand-new editors get deleted. It's much better to edit existing articles until you understand how Wikipedia works. It's possible for a new article by a new editor to "stick", but it's what they call a "low percentage play" in team sports. That's because Wikipedia is unlike anything most people have experienced before, so new editors almost always make incorrect first assumptions about the rules here. I certainly did. Since the article you started is already up for deletion, you should look at WP:ALTOUT and WikiIndex to find another wiki that might be more welcoming to this content. --Teratornis (talk) 22:39, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Another way of requesting someone move the page for you is by posting at the top {{Move draft}}.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

pronunciation guides?

I'd like to see Wikipedia include (LOCAL) pronunciation guides for geographic locations that are not necessarily pronounced phonetically, such as Opequon (VA), Norfolk (VA), Gloucester (VA), Natchitoches (LA), etc. If people might mispronounce your town (or your name), please include the correct pronunciation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.73.40.212 (talk) 21:10, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). If you have certain pages in mind that need pronunciations, I would encourage you to either edit the page or to add a comment on the talk page requesting a pronunciation. Because Wikipedia is maintained by volunteers, though, there's no guarantee that your request will be fulfilled in a timely manner (or at all, for that matter)... Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Many articles on British towns, cities or counties already have an indication of pronounciation, see for example Gloucester, London, Norfolk, Oxford, Reading; see WP:IPA for a guide to the various symbols. It should be simple enough for something similar to be added to Opequon, Virginia; Norfolk, Virginia and Gloucester Courthouse, Virginia (I note that Natchitoches, Louisiana already has it). I would prefer not to do so myself, since I am British, living in England and would certainly get the pronounciation wrong. If you are unsure as to the best course, it might be an idea if you were to bring up the subject at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Virginia. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Article categorization.

I just began using HotCat, and I just wanted to ensure that my categorizations of pages were correct-for instance adding Leukocytosis to Category:hematopathology. A reply would be greatly appreciated. Immunize (talk)

As a technical matter, you added the category successfully. As to whether the categorization is substantively correct, you're probably better off asking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Searching

What has happened to Wikipedia? Not very user-friendly, anymore. I can't find a "search" option, without scrolling all over the place -- and then, I don't know what to do? OK, I'm 70, and I expect things to change, I just wish they'd change for the better...174.98.158.177 (talk) 22:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The search box is over there on the left hand side of the page, just above the "Go" and "Search" buttons... – ukexpat (talk) 22:12, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no one single appearance. How Wikipedia looks to you depends on several factors, such as whether you have logged in to Wikipedia (and possibly customized Wikipedia's appearance), and whether you have enabled JavaScript in your Web browser. See Wikipedia:Browser notes. You can see some examples of how Wikipedia appears in various browsers in Commons:Category:Wikipedia screenshots. --Teratornis (talk) 22:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Not allowing me to edit a page

Resolved

 – ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi there

This is my first time wanting to edit a page here - The page in question actually references to a website I own, and what I wanted to do was create a new wiki page and link to the original page. However, this wiki does not have the edit function. Can anyone tell me why this is?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Passpok (talk • contribs) 22:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Go to the very top of the page, and you should see a tab that says "edit". If you want to edit a section, go to the section, and you should see an [edit] tab on the far right if the section header. Hope this helps, --The High Fin Sperm Whale 22:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Since you didn't tell us the page title, we can only guess what the problem might be. Maybe the page might be protected from editing by users who are not yet autoconfirmed. Also, it is unwise for new users to create new Wikipedia articles. In most cases they get deleted, because very few new users can correctly guess Wikipedia's complex rules for content. --Teratornis (talk) 22:43, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

This is the page in question i would like to edit - guessing it must be locked down http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavi_Gevinson ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Passpok (talk • contribs) 23:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The answer is yes. Tavi Gevinson was semi-protected by User:Bearian on the 24th of January due to excessive violations of our Biography of living persons policy, in particular apparently the inclusion of personal information about a minor. While the article is semi-protected, it cannot be edited by unregistered users, or by registered users whose account is less than four days old or have fewer than ten edits. So, if you make a few contributions elsewhere (and trust me, there's always a page that needs editing) and wait until the weekend, you should be able to edit Tavi's article (although I do recommend you take a quick look at that policy I linked to make sure you know what kind of edits are ok on a biography). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:53, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Ah great, makes perfect sense... ill hunt around and will do some editiing... Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.29.112.2 (talk) 19:00, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Changed email address and password lost

Since I registered User:Vernonwhite , I have left the employer whose equipment I used to access WP and forgotten the password. Can you help me gain access to User:Vernonwhite as a User, please? I would like to check any material in draft and then delete this User. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 23:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

If I understand correctly that you've lost the password to that account, as well as access to the email linked to it, then I'm afraid there is nothing we can do. You can simply continue using this new account instead; if you want to link the two accounts, a note to that affect on the talk page of each account would do the trick. Sorry. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

This user 213.166.17.2. He's doing a series of vandalism, you can do to check their history. This guy is doing profanity on the pages. I do not like, do not want him to be here. What can I do?. --Eduardofoxx13 (talk) 23:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

In future, it works a little more smoothly if you report vandals at WP:AIV. But I've blocked that IP address for three months as a repeatedly-blocked, nothing-but-vandalism IP. Thanks for the notice. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

(ec) It looks like they've already been blocked (according to the notice up the top of their contributions page), but generally the correct response is (1) revert the blatant vandalism, (2) place the appropriate level of escalating warnings on their talk page, (3) if they continue to vandalise past one of the higher-level warnings, report them to WP:AIV. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, ConMan has a point; I should have said that you should check to see that they've been warned recently, and report to WP:AIV only if vandalism is continuing after a recent high level warning. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

March 4

Untitled

I don't know the technical term for the "pronouncer" after the topic/subject. In any event, mine appear to be in some language other than my own(English).

Here is an example:

Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/

All else is fine. Is there something to be adjusted on my computer?

Thankx! Ted —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.15.151.38 (talk) 00:31, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi Ted. Wikipedia's pronunciations use a special set of symbols called the International Phonetic Alphabet. Whereas the letter "a" might have different sounds among English, Spanish, and German, while the IPA symbol /a/ always represents the open central unrounded vowel. For a more in-depth explanation plus a list of all symbols and their letter equivalents in common languages, I suggest you read Wikipedia:IPA and related pages, such as Wikipedia:IPA for English. Xenon54 / talk / 01:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Uploading a Graph made w/ Excel

If I create a graph using non-free (Proprietary software) like Microsoft Excel, would I be able to upload it? Or would this result in some type of license violation? The upload page at the commons says that "# Graphs, maps, diagrams, and audio you have created entirely yourself." however its not very clear regarding how they have to be created. -- GateKeeper ^(talk) @ 04:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what program you use. That said, you're likely to get better results from a vector-based program (like Origin) if you have access to one (better both in that it'll likely look nicer, and will definitely be more scalable). -- Bfigura ^(talk) 05:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

"New" message on my IP talk page

Am I in trouble? For the last week or so, when I link to Wikipedia but before I sign in, a "New message" alert appears, and directs me to the talk page for my IP address. The content is that an edit credited, or blamed, on me has been reverted, and I should learn how to write articles, and all such stuff. The putative offense was perpetrated on the article for Newport, Rhode Island, date 23 September 2009, time 23:32. I have read the history for the article, and the change credited to/blamed on me is as the reverter stated, not relevant. So far, so good.

The problem is that I did not write this. At least, so far as I can remember. The date of the change was 23 September, and heck, I don't even know where I was on 23 September. At 23:32 (that would be 17:32 CST), I would be eating supper, or walking the dog, or washing dishes, or something. I would certainly not be writing about Newport, RI. (I do not have anything against Newport; I wouldn't write about it because I don't know anything about it.)

So you can say that somebody snuck into my house while I was eating and used my computer without my knowledge and left a rather harmless trail on Wikipedia and no real harm was done and why don't I just shut up about it? I would ordinarily do that, but for two reasons: (1) Why is this message just appearing now, a half year after the event, when I have no way of remembering who was around my place at the time? And more importantly (2), how do I get rid of the warning message when I link in? I have read the message on the talk page; should that not remove the "New message" banner? Since that doesn't work, what should I do? PKKloeppel (talk) 04:17, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• Many ISPs use dynamic IP addresses which change every time you connect to the internet. It could be possible that someone else messed around with the page, got a warning, and then you got assigned that IP at a later time. I wouldn't worry about it, just log into your account to avoid seeing it. -- GateKeeper ^(talk) @ 04:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict)x2 That IP, I believe, links to Rushville, Illinois. If you don't live around there, then I don't know what it is. If you do, then it must have come from your connection. It could have come from another person in your house or possibly in our ISP. My advice is to just ignore it, since it isn't anything that disparaging. You might have a somewhat dynamic IP inside your ISP, and possibly it just returned to that IP. But like I said, just ignore it for now, since I don't see you getting into trouble for any of it. –Turian (talk) 04:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

If you restart your modem, you ISP might assign you a new IP address (I know mine does that). Astronaut (talk) 04:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

If you only edit while you are logged in to your account, then you can ignore messages on an IP number's talk page. If that IP number gets blocked from editing, it won't affect your account, because you can still log in. In fact, creating an account (as you have already done) is how to prevent this very type of confusion. See WP:ACCOUNT. --Teratornis (talk) 05:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Have you thought about registering an account. It has many benefits, including the fact that your IP would not be shown (or available) to 99% of all users (only CheckUsers have the ability to link an account name to an IP - and there are only 37 of those on Wikipedia). You would also have your own talk page (as opposed to the IP one which you have seen). -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:33, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

@ Phantomsteve - he already has, the original post was by User:Pkkphysicist, an account which was created 28 March 2008. My suspicion is that he gets this message prior to logging in.

@ Pkkphysicist - I am in the habit of turning off all my hardware when not in use, to save electricity. When I start up again, my IP address is always different; it is allocated by my broadband provider. I have only ever made twothree edits as an IP user, neither beingonly one of which was from this PC, so if I see any "You have new messages" boxes prior to logging in, I simply ignore them and log in. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Since typing the above, I lost my login during a different edit - and it was saved under an IP address. Hrmph. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

See WP:LOGGEDOUT. Which used to have some help on how to ensure you were logged in. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 14:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I think it disappeared with this edit. Thanks. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:18, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Bold move?

It has been suggested that Chile helps to Chile be moved to the Spanish title of this Chilian telethon (see Talk:Chile helps to Chile#Requested move). This strikes me as such a no-brainer that I'm tempted to be bold and do the move straight away without waiting for 7 days of discussion/consensus building. It is quite possible that because the proposer is an IP editor, that is why there is even a proposed move rather than a bold move. If I was bold and did the move now, would I be messing up the procedure which has been set in motion? Astronaut (talk) 04:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Something tells me you should, since the translation is wrong. I don't think there would be anything controversial, but that isn't a promise. I would support an instant change. –Turian (talk) 04:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I frequently move articles without any discussion, when the title is an obvious bad title (mistranslation, misspelling, obvious violation of naming conventions, etc.) For translations, you may want to let the discussion go for a day or two to make sure the translation is "right", but once you are sure of that, it should be uncontroversial enough to forgo the usual 7-day discussion period. --Jayron32 20:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

No issues here, imo. Go ahead, do it. But make sure you resolve all the double redirects. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Downloading Wikipedia software

Is there a place where I can download the Wikipedia software onto my computer so i can create my own wiki for my own sole use? If so, where do I go to do this? Keraunos (talk) 05:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes. You want MediaWiki. -- Bfigura ^(talk) 05:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Also see mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick for instructions on how to run MediaWiki as your Personal wiki. The MediaWiki software alone is not enough; you must also run a LAMP (software bundle) such as XAMPP. --Teratornis (talk) 19:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Rose
Common connotations
love, optimism
Color coordinates
Hex triplet	#FF007F
sRGBB (r, g, b)	(255, 0, 127)
HSV (h, s, v)	(330°, 100%, 100%)
CIELChuv (L, C, h)	(55, 143, 355°)
Source	[Unsourced]
B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)

I need a MediaWiki that will allow me to create color boxes such as the one below, for the research I am doing about various colors. Which ones will allow me to do that? Keraunos (talk) 20:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Most of that functionality is not done in MediaWiki itself. Rather, it is the result of templates that are essentially just normal Wikipedia pages (with the ability to handle parameters) that are transcluded elsewhere. For example, the box you use here is located at Template:Infobox color where, if you click on "view source", will give you the code that is required to display it. I believe that most infoboxes and similar templates use a certain amount of CSS, so you have to do some fiddling around there, but I don't know enough about it (either in general terms, or in MediaWiki/Wikipedia-specific terms) to help you there. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 01:21, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Template porting is, in general, hard. To get a particular template to work on another MediaWiki wiki, you may have to consider all these dependencies:

• The template you want may transclude other templates. You can see by editing the template and previewing it. Look below the edit window at the "Templates used in this preview:" section. Those templates, in turn, may transclude more templates. And so on, until you have pulled out all your hair.
  • If you don't need the entire hierarchy of template dependencies, you can collapse them by substituting the template on Wikipedia into a user sandbox page, and just copy the resulting wikitext to your destination template.
• The template may use style classes from MediaWiki:Common.css.
• The template may use MediaWiki extensions. There is no simple way to get a list of the extensions that a particular template uses. You can see the extensions installed on Wikipedia at Special:Version. If you see strange codes "bleeding through" to the rendered page when preview your template on your destination wiki, that may mean you need an extension you haven't installed there yet.
• The template may rely on side effects of other software running on Wikipedia's servers, such as HTML Tidy. This can cause problems that are even harder to debug than missing extensions. The only example I know about is {{Navbox}}. Hopefully for the rest of your hair it doesn't happen to you.
• Another complication is Wikipedia's template documentation system. It took me a while to port that. My advice is to skip it for a personal wiki unless you want to learn a lot more about templates than you might need.
• Some templates on Wikipedia contain features that are overkill for a small wiki, such as extensive abstraction to share common features between many other templates you don't care about. Sometimes it's easier to design your own simpler template from scratch, since you won't have to worry about the incredible complexity here. You may also find simpler templates on another wiki that caters to a smaller specialist user community. Look up your topic of interest on WikiIndex and see what other people are doing. In general, you will notice MediaWiki wikis outside the WikiMedia Foundation family typically have far fewer templates than Wikipedia and they are generally simpler. There aren't a lot of skilled template coders in relation to the number of wikis.

Running your own wiki makes you realize how much value a skilled user community provides on a vibrant wiki like Wikipedia. The difference between Wikipedia and your own wiki is like the difference between a city and the wilderness. Each has its advantages and disadvantages, but if you have grown used to one, moving to the other is a shock. --Teratornis (talk) 19:29, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles' Quality Rating within WikiProjects

Who decides on the rating of an article? If an article were rated a 'Start' Article in 2007, but has since been vastly improved, who would this be reported to? SmokingNewton (talk) 07:55, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Anyone other than the creator (or a major contributor) can change the rating - it doesn't need to be reported anywhere. Read the assessment criteria (there should be a link to it on the WikiProject banner) and decide which grade the article is, and then change the rating as appropriate. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:23, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

If you don't feel comfortable with that, but feel that the rating is wrong, visit the relevant WikiProject page, and see if they have an "Assessment request" section or subpage, and put a request there. If they haven't, put a message on the talk page of the WikiProject. It should be noted that, generally speaking, whilst the opinion of just one editor is required for classifications Stub, Start, and C (sometimes B and A), the higher classifications are more tightly controlled - especially GA and FA, where peer review and committee consensus is normally needed. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

My New Page

I recently submited a page for Wikipedia "Cambridge Ruskin International Collge". It has not since gone live. I dont know if this is because I haven't submitted it properly or if there is a problem. Please advise. Many thanks! Isabel —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isabel Crawford (talk • contribs) 09:58, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

It's in your userspace, at User:Isabel Crawford/Cambridge Ruskin International College. It could do with some work before you move it to article space; some references would certainly be needed. See Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:31, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Create book bug

There is no any "save and share book" section on "show book" page after login, anywhere. Khitron (talk) 11:34, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

You will see the "Save and share your book" option when your account is autoconfirmed, which happens automatically after your account is at least four full days old and has made at least ten edits to any page on Wikipedia, including Wikipedia:Sandbox. For more information, please see Help:Books. --Mysdaao ^talk 13:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Updating filetype of image

A long time ago I uploaded my first image... And people added the templates for image quality and stuff, because it was an uncompressed png. I updated it with Photoshop, and made a lower resolution low-quality version, but the file is still called File:LaserCombo.png. Since it is still a png file, it shows the earlier version still. How do I fix this? I'm totally new to media uploading on the wiki.  Awesomeness  talk  12:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The new version File:LaserCombo.png was uploaded successfully. You can see this from the "File history" section on the image page. Where are you seeing the earlier version? You may have to bypass your cache so your browser downloads the new version correctly. --Mysdaao ^talk 13:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Help with misformatted table

Resolved

 – Redrose64 (talk) 16:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

In the article Hebrew alphabet, something is seriously wrong with the table under the heading "Description". The top set of two rows in the table seems to be okay. The first row shows the primary form of each letter, and the second row shows a smaller secondary form (if any) beneath the corresponding primary form. The bottom set of two rows is problematic. Here, inconsistently with the first set of two rows, the primary forms in the first row are smaller than the secondary forms in the second row. Also, I'm fairly sure that the secondary forms are not lined up with the corresponding primary forms in the row above. Now, I checked the revision history for this article, and the problems with this table seem to be the result of the most recent revision. The most recent revision was quite extensive and involved formatting edits to many parts of the article, not just to this table. I do not understand table-formatting markup, so I can't assess whether the other formatting edits were improvements or not. Because I have no reason to think that the other formatting edits in the most recent revision were undesirable, I don't want to just revert the last revision, which seemed to involve a lot of work. Is there anyone who understands the formatting markup who can fix this, or can you recommend any other action to fix it? Thanks. Marco polo (talk) 14:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I've put the old version of the table back; please check it, as I don't speak Hebrew. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Further investigation shows that the misalignment was caused by the presence of a semicolon following the rowspan="2" attributes (rowspan="2";), which meant that the attribute value was unrecognised. If I wotk out what caused the oversize font, I'll revert my edit and fix up per these investigations. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Right - it was style="font-size:300%;" being applied to both the row and to the cells, which gave 900% font size. Page now fixed properly, see this diff. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it! Marco polo (talk) 17:31, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

how to add "share" to toolbox

I wanted to 'share' a Wikipedia article about "raining animals" related to the recent raining of fish in Australia to my Facebook page. I found info in Wiki's Helpdesk Archive that appears to indicate that the capability to "share" must be added by Wiki HelpDesk to a user's "toolbox", with the user's permission. I am a registered user. Do I need to submit a formal request somewhere to have this feature/capability added to my account?Dloftin (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

You need to edit Special:MyPage/monobook.js and add:

importScript('User:TheDJ/sharebox.js'); //[[User:TheDJ/sharebox.js]]

Save it and follow the instructions at the top of the page to bypass your browser's cache. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:42, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Uploading an Image File

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 22:52, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The College's logo on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Ida_College is outdated. I would like to upload the new logo. How do I do that?— —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.59.54.16 (talk) 16:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Without an account you can't. You can request it be uploaded at Wikipedia:Files for upload or an autoconfirmed user can do it for you. Hang on a sec and I will do it. – ukexpat (talk) 16:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

 Done. See File:Mt-ida-logo.png. You may need to purge and/or bypass your cache to get it to display in the article. – ukexpat (talk) 17:08, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Help!

Resolved

 – Mysdaao ^talk 18:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The last collapsible box on my userpage is swallowing up the rest of it and I can't figure out how to stop it! Can somebody fix it for me?--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 17:42, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I haved fixed it for you. You needed an extra |} to close the navbox. Without it, everything below it was put into the navbox. --Mysdaao ^talk 18:15, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you...I could have sworn that that was there...must have been confused.--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 18:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. --Mysdaao ^talk 18:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Two questions - posting images and verifying yourself if you have a wikipedia page

Hi

Furst of all I can't seem to upload an image to my own wikipedia page. Someone has created one for me so I wanted to make sure the details are correct and add an image. I can't find the correct page that tells me how to upload an image although i have found the html link [File:gb37.jpg|thumb|alt=Georgie Bingham|Georgie Bingham]] I do not know how to get that jpg to show up on the page. Please can you help me?

Secondly my wikipedia page does not cite any sources - can I be that source as I am the person that page is about? I am pretty sure that I can ensure my page is accurate as I know pretty much everything there is to know about me!

Many thanks

GeebeeUK

GeeBeeUK (talk) 19:23, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• If you want to add an existing image to an article, add [[Image:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information.
• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must find out what the proper license of the image is. If you know the image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure what license the image takes, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy. I hope this helps.

You won't be able to upload images to Wikipedia until your account is autoconfirmed, which happens automatically when your account is at least four full days old and has made at least ten edits to any page on Wikipedia. You can upload images to Wikimedia Commons immediately though.

You can't be the source for the article about you. The policy at Wikipedia:Verifiability is that material has to be attributed to a reliable, published source. If a person were the source, there'd be no way for a reader of the article to verify the information.

You should be very cautious when you edit an article about yourself. This is a conflict of interest. Minor edits like adding images and sources are probably ok, but any content changes should be brought up on the article's talk page first. --Mysdaao ^talk 19:36, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Where are the episode counts in the character infobox?

Resolved

 – ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Take The Sopranos for example, when you edit this page it displays their episode count (see Tony Soprano, Carmela Soprano, Christopher Moltisanti), but when you read the article it isn't present. What's the deal? None of the characters have the episode count information anymore. Even The Shield and Nip/Tuck characters have an episode count on the edit page, but its not visible on the main article. Why? Geeky Randy (talk) 20:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, don't know what you mean. The Sopranos has "No. of episodes 86 (List of episodes)" in the infobox, and when editing it shows |num_episodes=86, which is consistent. Which section are the episode counts in that you are thinking of? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

OK I think I've got it. Your problem is not with the article The Sopranos itself, but with the individual character pages. The facility for displaying the episode counts in {{Infobox character}} was removed 20:47, 18 February 2010 with this edit; it had been discussed at Template talk:Infobox character#Parameter removal. If you don't agree with the decision, you'd best take it up on that discussion. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I'm now a part of that discussion. Geeky Randy (talk) 00:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me...

Could you please direct me to the page in which formatting for inserting "userboxes" at the top of the page, that state that the user is often away for any reason, is given? A polite British-style inquiry of 2J Bäkkvire Maestro ^{what are you} _{looking at?} 21:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I think you want Wikibreak.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 21:38, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

How To Add Scripts

How do I add this script to my account?100110100 (talk) 23:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

You go to the script page and copy and paste the code in the box. Then you create the page User:100110100/monobook.js and paste that code onto that page. That is your personal Javascript for the Monobook skin, and when you put that code there, the six tabs feature should show up on all the pages you view while signed into that account. --Brandon5485 00:45, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

{{!xt3}}

I am trying to remove the borders. How do I do that?174.3.110.108 (talk) 23:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

No padding, no margins. What other parameters are there?174.3.110.108 (talk) 23:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

cf. [3]: How do I remove the margins or/and or or\and borders?174.3.110.108 (talk) 00:01, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't use class="wikitable", as it is styled with borders— see MediaWiki:Common.css. What does this template do? Beside violate the accessibility standards per WP:COLOR. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 00:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

This template is usually only used on wikipediaspace pages.174.3.110.108 (talk) 00:30, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

2010 California gubernatorial election

I just submitted my 'Statement of Intention, FORM 501' with the Secretary of State'. Can I Add/Edit a Wikipedia Article on myself stating only factual data, with no references since I am myself? One that looks a lot like the Meg Whitman article. Cheers, --i am the kwisatz haderach (talk) 23:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

No, an article must be referenced with reliable sources. You should also be aware that editing an article about yourself would be a violation of our conflict of interest policy, see WP:COI. Regards, RadManCF (talk) 00:24, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

You have no references. How could you state facts?174.3.110.108 (talk) 00:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

• Hi SpecialAgent777, nee Kwisatz Haderach, you could try leaving a request at WP:REQUESTED ARTICLES and let other established editors create your article in case they can find reliable sources.▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Aso!!!, Me Like. I can be here and there at the same time, two places at once. And the Kwisatz Haderach prophecy will be Internetly woven. I actually came back on this board to ask this very question, and it's answered before I even ask it. Again, the power of the Kwisatz Haderach, literally the jumping of the path/way/road. Cheers, --i am the kwisatz haderach (talk) 21:52, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Wifoine, thanks much, first time using that Wiki-bit. I think I did it right, check it out. And I'll end this with a Puff Daddy Quote: Tell your friends, to get with my friends, and we can all be friends. --i am the kwisatz haderach (talk) 22:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

March 5

If we can't write it...

I read that you're not allowed to write your own page on your own business, due to biased views. what are we supposed to do if we're a new business and want to get a page of our own so people have something to reference to it?

ex: a record label, with bands who will eventually have pages ceated, and that will link. the only reference currently IS a myspace and a personal website, which contains my own contact info on it.

clueless about this one. how do ANY sites get created if this is the case? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brkenmirrr (talk • contribs) 00:26, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a business directory or anything else. Ultimately, articles are added here based on certain notability guidelines for inclusion. One of the things that demonstrates that a topic is notable, is if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources. There are other, more specific guidelines, like Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). In this way, Wikipedia is different from other sites like MySpace or Facebook, or LinkedIn because it's here to record what has already become notable in other sources, not to help people or bands or organisations get better known. If the only reference to an organisation is it's personal website, then it is very unlikely that it will meet those notability guidelines. Also remember; Wikipedia has no deadline. If your (hypothetical?) record label has all these bands that are famous, or going to be famous, chances are it will be notable enough for an article sometime in the future. Hope this helps. --BelovedFreak 00:50, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

The quick answer is that an article will be created if some people already know about the subject, and shouldn't be created if nobody knows about it. Sufficiently notable (not synonymous with famous or significant, but somewhat related) subjects will have articles created, generally because someone looks for such an article, doesn't find it, and either creates it themselves or requests that it be created and someone else does the legwork to find references and sources and such. If your business gets significant mentions in major publications, then you're welcome to put in such a request, preferably pointing people to these mentions that can be used as sources for the article. However, remember that you will have little to no control over the content of the article, and due to your conflict of interest will be recommended to avoid editing the article yourself (although you will be welcome to suggest edits on the article's discussion page which other editors may then implement). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 01:35, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

In a nutshell most "new" things are not notable and therefore do not meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. Try WikiCompany. – ukexpat (talk) 03:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

• Try leaving a request for your article at WP:Requested Articles, although my net search confirms your worries that the article may not be created until you have reliable newspaper sources commenting on you in an in depth manner.

• Try changing your name also in the future. It might be called for being a promotional username. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:56, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

{{!xt3}} Not Working

[4]

Why is {{!xt3}} not working?174.3.110.108 (talk) 00:31, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I generally would not recommend using new and untested templates. However, I've reverted the changes you seem to have made to the template. Try it now. In case you do not know how to use templates, try reading a quick guide on how to use templates. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

And I would also recommend registering your user name. It has various advantages. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Request for article on other wikis

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 – ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

How can I request for an article on Spanish wiki? Thanks. Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 05:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

The page for requesting new articles at es.wikipedia is Artículos solicitados. Cheers. --Jayron32 05:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 05:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

In the future, if you are looking for an analogous page on another language Wikipedia, look to the left in the box that says "languages". It should bring you to the same page as on en.wikipedia, but in that language Wikipedia instead. I found the correct link by going to Wikipedia:Requested articles and clicking on the "Español" link under the "languages" toolbox. --Jayron32 05:29, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I didn't know

I added my email address in my comment and I understand there is a better way to receive WANTED email; can you help me with this p[lease and feel free to change what I submitted and refer interested parties to contact my YOUR way, instead. Thanks.

Dr. HUNT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.142.30 (talk) 05:15, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Why do you want people to contact you? If you are looking to a response to a question asked on a Wikipedia discussion page, such as an article talk page or a help desk like this, it will be answered immediately under this page. If you want people to be able to contact you to discuss matters in general regarding wikipedia, you should create an account so you can have access to a user page and its associated user talk page. If you want people to be able to email you from within Wikipedia, then you also need to create an account, and enable the email function. If you can explain in more detail what about Wikipedia you want to use email for, we can help you solve the problem... --Jayron32 05:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Merging All Accounts

Hey, I want to merge all my accounts 'Wikipedia, Wikinews etc...' but the problem is I can't. Please kindly have a look.

______________________________||||||||________________________________________________________

The accounts named "Doson" on each of the following sites have been automatically attached to the unified account:

commons.wikimedia.org en.wikipedia.org en.wikibooks.org en.wikinews.org en.wikiquote.org en.wiktionary.org www.mediawiki.org meta.wikimedia.org ru.wikipedia.org

The account "Doson" could not be automatically confirmed as belonging to you on the following sites; most likely they have a different password from your primary account:

zh.wikipedia.org

Finish merge

If these accounts do belong to you, you can finish the login unification process simply by typing the passwords for the other accounts here:..

______________________________________________|||||||||||_____________________________________________________________

And when I enter my password I get this

No accounts could be confirmed using this password. What should i do --- Doson 05:39, 5 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doson (talk • contribs)

• Dear Doson, Three points

• Your current status here[5] confirms your existing status on the various projects.
• When you try to log on, click on the link Finish Merge and follow the instructions there.
• Try having a look at this page. In case you're still not able to unify the accounts, leave a message here. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Help with table

I'm creating a table. On pre made pages it appears with a short summary but on a new page it doesn't. Why is this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Information Star (talk • contribs) 09:47, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Your question is not clear. What information do you want in a table? What do you mean by "short summary", and what do you mean by "pre made pages"? No page on Wikipedia is pre made. Help:Table might have the information you need. --Mysdaao ^talk 13:29, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It depends which type of table and summary it is. You can edit a page with a table to see which code it uses. Can you link to the table you are trying to create and clarify what type of summary you want in it, for example by linking to an existing article which already has it? You can work on a draft of your table at User:Information Star/Sandbox. If you refer to summaries of television episodes then there is general documentation at Template:Episode list and we can help with problems. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:31, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

The league

Sir/Madam, I just want to use this time to express my feelings about the indonesia league.The indonesia league is droping from year to year. I also want to let indonesia know that,foot ball is not played by writting nor by google.all over the world,as far as you can play the game well,the club will take you;but in the case off indonesia ,is not like that.Well,as a fan and a soccer lover,indonesia have to improve on their standards of playing real soccer.The soccer here in indonesia is all corupt and all about money.But in reality,soccer is not all about money ,it's knowing how to play the game and to be real,in what you do and say.it dosen't matter your papper work but if you know the game that is the most important thing in life. Thank You Hope that this country will try and change there way of thinking and more more real about what the players want. Hope you can put this across to the higher people in soccer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.56.243.53 (talk) 11:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, now that you may have realised we're not the higher authorities for Indonesian football, let me guide you to an article about the Football Association of Indonesia. Once you're done reading that article, here are 1982 articles on football in Indonesia that could interest you further in continuing on the project. While you're at it, you may wish to create an account if you do not already have one. Creating an account providesa number of benefits; in particular, your contributions are attributed to your username. SeeHelp:Logging in for help with logging in to an existing account. Feel free to write back here for help. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

How to change the info in a block on a page

How do I change the information shown in the block on the right side of this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Trucks

I don't know where the "Key People" name of Gareth Crewe is coming from; that person has never been a Mack executive. Ut06265 (talk) 20:21, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for catching that. TNXMan 20:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)