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:Neither Turner nor Coulter are academics on this field. Turner is a research writer and Coulter was an engineer/novelist. The sources the authors used for this are Albanian Constantine Anastasi Chekrezi[http://books.google.com/books?id=MeopAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA6&dq=E+th%C3%ABna+Albanian&hl=en&ei=HjW2S5DmH4aBlAflgpDpCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false] and Reverend Edwin E. Jacques,[http://books.google.com/books?id=IJ2s9sQ9bGkC&pg=PA68&dq=E+th%C3%ABna+Albanian&hl=en&ei=HjW2S5DmH4aBlAflgpDpCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false] based upon the Albanian word "E Thena" (''say/speech'') |
:Neither Turner nor Coulter are academics on this field. Turner is a research writer and Coulter was an engineer/novelist. The sources the authors used for this are Albanian Constantine Anastasi Chekrezi[http://books.google.com/books?id=MeopAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA6&dq=E+th%C3%ABna+Albanian&hl=en&ei=HjW2S5DmH4aBlAflgpDpCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false] and Reverend Edwin E. Jacques,[http://books.google.com/books?id=IJ2s9sQ9bGkC&pg=PA68&dq=E+th%C3%ABna+Albanian&hl=en&ei=HjW2S5DmH4aBlAflgpDpCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false] based upon the Albanian word "E Thena" (''say/speech'' - sic!). Neither Chekrezi nor Jacques make any claim about any 'Albanian Goddess' “Ethona” that is found in the book by Turner nor Coulter, they base their theory on the Albanian word "e thena" in which "e" is an article and "thena" is a participle of thom 'I say'. These 'sources' are rejected by modern linguistic scholars. The authors also claim the name Athena is a transliteration of the Vedic [[Ahana]], that is based upon 19th century sources like George William Cox's "The mythology of the Aryan nations"[http://books.google.com/books?id=tUiyXyxyOiIC&pg=PA248&dq=Vedic+Ahana&hl=en&ei=zkW2S-XOEIWglAeTvNCSAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Vedic%20Ahana&f=false] and Sir James Knowles[http://books.google.com/books?id=mzMAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA650&dq=Vedic+Ahana&hl=en&ei=zkW2S-XOEIWglAeTvNCSAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Vedic%20Ahana&f=false]. I'm reverting the etymology section to its previous form until independent sources within the academic fields required can collaborate this "Albanian" connection to the etymology 'Athena'. ([[User:Angar432|Angar432]] ([[User talk:Angar432|talk]]) 19:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)) |
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Replaced Pano
I replaced the panorama taken from Lykkabetus hill with one from the exact same angle but less choppy. Looks much better.
Please replace photos in toolbox
Please put a photo of acropolis (larger than the previous,aphoto of the area and the city's seal.Thank you.
Olympics
Hey could we get some information about the downside of the Olympics? I have read in multiple other sources that it was very bad for the Athenian economy.
Added a template
I created and added a Landmarks in Athens template.
Location of Athens
Take a look at the red point showing the loc. of Athens in Greece, correct it
Photos
- To El Greco: I really cant understand your persistence in removing photos that add value to the article by actually showing things the article describes for instance, Athens tram or Athens suburban rail. I dont add photos of monkeys or space shuttles. Other articles regarding other countries capitals have much much more photos ranging to 15-30 photos! Athens has in my opinion very few photos and could actually be enriched. Please stop removing them. The reason you say is simply not valid!77.83.202.65 (talk) 15:14, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not an image repository. That's what Wikicommons is for. So just because an image exist doesn't mean that it needs to be added. El Greco(talk) 15:30, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
- You keep saying Wikipedia is not an image repository but you fail to reply to what I say. I said that Articles are enriched with the appropriate images. If what you say was valid you should go and erase photos from London, New York, Madrid, Instabul or other articles where many many photos are present on those articles. Also, suburbs are part of Athens and described in the article, thus the photo stays. Thanks! 77.83.202.65 (talk) 16:11, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
- There already is a photo of a suburb, no need for more than one, since this article is about Athens, not Maroussi. El Greco(talk) 23:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Proper section for museums
I am trying to standardize the presentation of museums in big city articles. Here is a general picture of the present situation: User:Hoverfish/Sandbox#Europe. In most big cities museums are mentioned under "Culture", "Main sights" or "Tourism" sections. In Athens they are mentioned under "Urban landscape", which I find confusing, thought the building themselves may well be notable as part of the landscape. I suggest subsection "Parks and Museums" becomes simply "Parks", while the notability of the architecture of some museum buildings is simply mentioned under subsection "Architecture", and the "Museums" as such get a subsection of their own under "Culture and contemporary life", linking as 'main article' to List of museums in Greece#Athens. Hoverfish Talk 05:59, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Twin cities
Just a very small point, but on the Mexico City page it lists Athens, Greece, as a twin/sister town. I see no such mention under Athens' twin cities - is that possible? 84.0.203.168 (talk) 19:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Either its an omission or they aren't sister cities. Unfortunately, I don't know how we can find out whether they are or not.--Ptolion (talk) 19:46, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
photos(in general)
I agree with the friend who says that the photos generally are usuful and in my opinion they make also the article more attractive to the readers.
I saw the article of "italy" ,of many italian cities,of "istanbul" and other major world cities and i think they overflow from pics---such as they were a travel guide---.
The greek articles i think are poor on this matter and no way they are "images repository".For example,cause i read the previous conversation ,its absolutely paralogism even to discuss if to put an image for Maroussi municipality in the article,such as it was another city. Athens is consisting by many many municipalities.
So,greeks be friendly with the pics!Greco22 (talk) 21:30, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Etimology
The name Athena may have come from Albanian goddess “Ethona” Dictionary of ancient deities By Patricia Turner, Charles Russell Coulter 2001
http://books.google.com/books?id=jEcpkWjYOZQC&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=athens+albanian+goddess&source=bl&ots=OtAelSKKA-&sig=NTChX8FYPi01pAJ2LTnw5SBpw7Q&hl=en&ei=W7ywS9baK9D24gaf6rm4Dw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=athens%20albanian%20goddess&f=false —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.107.222.230 (talk) 14:56, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
- Neither Turner nor Coulter are academics on this field. Turner is a research writer and Coulter was an engineer/novelist. The sources the authors used for this are Albanian Constantine Anastasi Chekrezi[1] and Reverend Edwin E. Jacques,[2] based upon the Albanian word "E Thena" (say/speech - sic!). Neither Chekrezi nor Jacques make any claim about any 'Albanian Goddess' “Ethona” that is found in the book by Turner nor Coulter, they base their theory on the Albanian word "e thena" in which "e" is an article and "thena" is a participle of thom 'I say'. These 'sources' are rejected by modern linguistic scholars. The authors also claim the name Athena is a transliteration of the Vedic Ahana, that is based upon 19th century sources like George William Cox's "The mythology of the Aryan nations"[3] and Sir James Knowles[4]. I'm reverting the etymology section to its previous form until independent sources within the academic fields required can collaborate this "Albanian" connection to the etymology 'Athena'. (Angar432 (talk) 19:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC))
Graffitti
The young citizens of Athens should learn to respect more their city because a lot of graffitti gives a poor impression of the city.--88.18.148.222 (talk) 01:28, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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