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Colin Martin

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Subject's notability is not clearly established. There doesn't seem to be much coverage on him apart from contemporary news reports, which suggests that this may fall under BLP1E. His role as author may contribute to notability, but apart from this Sunday Mirror article, which refers to the book as "best-selling", I couldn't find any significant coverage in independent sources. Paul_012 ^(talk) 19:48, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. -- Paul_012 ^(talk) 10:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Thailand-related deletion discussions. -- Paul_012 ^(talk) 10:48, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
• Delete as the quoted book was written by him, so may not give the entire circumstances of his conviction.Red Hurley (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

• If kept should be renamed to "imprisonment of", "Colin Martin case", etc. Spent eight years in prison for a crime he maintains he did not commit. (Source) Blamed for the murder of a New Zealand ship captain in 1997. (Source) "Dozens of Irish supporters and relatives have campaigned for the release of Mr Martin, who spent two years in leg irons and contracted tuberculosis while in Chonburi prison [...] visited by a number of Irish people and helped by the Commission for Irish Prisoners Overseas". (Source). --candle•wicke 06:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

The book is also mentioned here and here. --candle•wicke 06:10, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

• The first mention you provided of the book is only in passing, and the second by the publisher, so neither contribute to establishing the book's notability. As for the event itself, I'm not sure whether the coverage is significant enough, or if WP:NOT#NEWS should apply. --Paul_012 ^(talk) 06:40, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —SpacemanSpiff 01:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• Still delete as lots of people write books and lots of people are wrongfully convicted. I am sorry for his trouble but he is not notable.Red Hurley (talk) 11:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• Note: struck duplicate 'delete vote'. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 00:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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• Keep: I have read the book. Apart from that, I believe that the article is notable as a biography, at least.

• And am somewhat doubtful about the validity, about the following comments:

"so may not give the entire circumstances of his conviction.Red Hurley" : Nothing on wikipedia, gives the entire circumstances about anything, is my claim.

"Spent eight years in prison for a crime he maintains he did not commit." : The wikipedia article does not state "he maintains he did not commit", and I can not recall the book saying that. (Yes, there was a fight. And yes, he does not remember exactly .... And yes his opponent disappeared into the dark, wilderness after some fighting.). A major issue in the book, is that he should not have been convicted by Thai law. One reason was that there were no witnesses who showed up at the trial.

--Hyllevare (talk) 10:38, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 00:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)