Talk:Science 2.0

Concerns about this article

I have some serious issues with this article at the moment, and I would invite interested editors to spend some time reviewing WP:NEU and other core Wikipedia policies. Currently, the article reads as a vague yet enthusiastic description of "Science 2.0", combined with a number of links to academic, non-profit, and commercial websites which are basically social networks for scientists. The Web 2.0 article shows what can be done with some more care and attention, but I do feel that "Web 2.0", for all its own issues, is much more tangible and has delivered more than "Science 2.0" which remains as far as I can tell, a buzzword. I'll take one of the sections here as a specific example, my comments in parentheses:

Open publishing

Peer review (needs internal linking) of scientific publications helps (is intended to?) to filter out bad science or to correct errors. Unfortunately (the author's POV) this is a slow process (citation?) and the actual publication is often months after its submission (POV that this is a bad thing).

By taking the papers themselves to the cloud (very difficult for a non-specialist to understand this phrase), they become much more accessible (no evidence to confirm that this is the case). More peers will have a chance to read and review the paper, which could potentially lead to higher quality and faster publication (but again, there is no evidence that this is happening and in fact trials of systems by the BMJ found that peer reviewers were NOT wiling to comment online).

In closing, I hope that authors who have contributed to this article will take this statement as encouragement to improve the article rather than as mean-spirited or harsh. I will post a link on the talk page of interested authors and check in; without dramatic improvement I think the article should be considered for deletion. It would a shame, and ironic, if an article about the improvement of publishing through open access could not be improved on wikipedia!

--PaulWicks (talk) 09:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Explanation

we are a group of student that are maken a new entry for Science 2.0 for a course called "User Interfaces". each of the student that follow this course must help to improve the entry by adding information of by editing it. therefore i would like to ask you, to give us some time before you take a decision. User:Gutiz01

Ah, I see, that makes sense. Well, I'm happy that your coursework has brought you to Wikipedia, it's great to see new technologies deployed in the classroom. A strong recommendation I will make is that the article must be *a wikipedia article first* and *your coursework project second*. That means that regardless of who is editing the article, it should conform to the policies of Wikipedia. There are extensive guidelines available at the Community Portal on the left hand side of the page. I hope that learning these and putting them into practice will help give us all a better article, and I hope many of the students in your class go on to become editors of wikipedia for the future too! All the best --PaulWicks (talk) 17:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Neutrality of view and usages of "web 2.0" in science is not covered properly

I am clearly a strong believer in "web 2.0" technology in the context of supporting science and communication. Still, the article is not providing a broad overview on the topic and it is too focussed on "open" science topics rather than more neutral overviews of "web 2.0" in science. So, here a few suggestions on improving the article

• Please list reasons why people are using "science 2.0", which is IMHO not a buzz-word, but indeed a combination of "web 2.0" in the context of science.
  • Motivation for scientists? see e.g. here
  • Information explosion as mentioned here, and why web 2.0 is able helping in filtering and please note controversy

edit: we tried to involve this in our iteration of the wiki page, we added the Rabbit hole risk and the spigot risk, and involved the snowflake effect as part of a solution. - Group10

• • Curation services, especially Distributed Annotation System and co, nothing a single person, or institute can handle, but the crowd can
  • Curation of data, check simply Wiki PubMed:Query:Wiki. Please note that there is also a controversy, especially in the contribution of scientists to such media (ping me if you need more references).
  • Integration and Annotation, e.g. Reflect and OnTheFly
• Please mention usage of web 2.0 in commercial settings and in industry.
  • What kind of consortia or collaborations exist? E.g., though not strictly web 2.0 itself, but working towards web integration, aka allowing web 2.0 inchi trust or see also FF discussion
  • Challenges from a legal and reimbursement aspect?
  • Data privacy issues for "Health 2.0" topics? E.g. PrivateAccess

Of course, there is much more to discuss and to add, and that is exactly the reason why this articles needs improvement from a broader audience! Best, science 2.0 regards, Dr. Joerg Kurt Wegner --JKW (talk) 21:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)