Talk:Abolition of monarchy

Did I get "1999" right when writing about the decision not to abolish the monarchy in Australia? What happened in Spain? I know that the monarchy there was restored when Franco died, but when was it abolished? Michael Hardy 23:30 Apr 6, 2003 (UTC)

The Spanish Republic was set up in 1931.

"Those of Romania, Albania, Italy, and China were abolished in the aftermath of World War II." Err, no, the Chinese Republic was established in 1912, if I recall my history correctly (President Dr Sun Yat Sen)

"That of Ireland was not abolished when Ireland became independent of Britain in the 1920s, but was abolished later [when?]." 1949, despite the country having also had a president since 1938. -- Arwel 23:35 Apr 6, 2003 (UTC)

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There should probably be some mention of The Finnish monarch Väinö I of Finland. If for no other reason than as a curiosity.

Oletteko tyytyväinen? -- Ruhrjung 11:18 28 Jun 2003 (UTC)

coup d'etat or revolution

It seems the term coup d'etat doesn't quite do justice to what occured in 1917 in Russia or 1979 in Iran, among others, that toppled centuries old monarchies. Should this distinction be made visible? Amirak 07:21, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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The Vietnamese Emperor was restored shortly after the 1945 abdication. He was deposed in 1955. Homagetocatalonia 0:24, 25 August 2005 (GMT)

Charles I

He ran a "modern law-based monarchy" ??? Morwen - Talk 10:44, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I have removed Hong Kong because it was not a Commonwealth Realm and did not have its own monarch

Fiji

I dont think Fiji should be included in this section, after 1987 the republic was declared but the monarchy was never declared nor in its true sense considered abolished. The Queen in 1998 was declared to be still the Paramount Chief by the Fiji's Great Council Of Chiefs, which is also why her effigy and standards are still on the national currency, flag and most public property. The President of Fiji who can only be selected from hereditary chiefs making up the Great Council of Chiefs, therefore would have take precedence after her when she is in the country. Fiji is very unusual as a republic in this sense.

It still remains a fact that Fiji is officially and factually a republic. —Nightstallion (?) 20:30, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

princely states

the current listing on the princely states, suggesting they were all gone by the time Hyderabad got absorbed in 1950, seems inaccurate to me. Jammu and Kashmir continued to have its Maharaja until at least 1952 (and wasn't fully absorbed until some years after that). The Pakistani princely states generally lasted even longer - Bahawalpur and the Baluchi ones weren't abolished until 1955, the ones in the Northwest Frontier until even later - the 60s or 70s. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem practical to list all of the princely states. Perhaps we should do something like "*most Indian princely states, 1947," and then have separate entries for the ones abolished later. john k 16:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Well there is also Sikkim which wasn't abolished until about 1970.Eregli bob (talk) 16:07, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it was in 1975 & that it should be listed since it was a protected nation till that time it became an Indian state. I'll add it as such. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 06:06, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Minor error

The Kingdom of Romania has been abolished on 31th December, 1947 -with the proclamation of the republic, one day after the abdication of the last king. In short the monarchy ended in 1947 and not in 1946. Bbenjoe 20:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Duly noted & corrected. That-Vela-Fella 03:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Why only 20th century?

It seems to me that abolished monarchies of the 19th century, at least, would be well worth mentioning here - France, the Two Sicilies, Hanover, and so forth. john k 15:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

It may have been done this way to begin with since it's more recent. If you're willing to do one, then go ahead with the data for that time period.

Although I had noticed those done in the same year may not be put in alphabetical order by nation, but by the date within the year... hard to tell offhand. Might not matter really, since it was that year anyway. That-Vela-Fella 23:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Samoa

Why have you deleted it from the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.122.126.22 (talk) 17:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Cambodia

It was not a communist revolution that put an end to the monarchy of Cambodia in 1970, as stated, but the anti-communist Prime Minister Lon Nol, who had the King deposed by the National Assembly on March 18 of that year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rlugg (talk • contribs) 19:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Under the heading Current monarchies that were abolished and then restored, the article lists the Cambodian monarchy twice, in 1975 and 1993. Only the latter restoration is strictly correct; the monarchy was not restored in 1975, although the former King, Norodom Sihanouk, did become nominal head of state at that time. This is how Wikipedia's article on him describes what happened:

When the Khmer Republic fell to the Khmer Rouge in April 1975, Prince Sihanouk became the symbolic head of state of the new régime while Pol Pot remained in power. The next year, on April 4, 1976, the Khmer Rouge forced Sihanouk out of office again and into political retirement.

Richard Lugg (talk) 18:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Pakistani States

As mentioned earlier, the Pakistani Frontier States, Dir, Swat, Chitral and Amb, retained their status as one of suzerainty to Pakistan until 1969, when they were formally merged with the Noth West Frontier Province. The titles and priviliges of teh rulers were abolished in 1971. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.187.29 (talk) 22:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Empire of Japan

Should the Empire of Japan should be included in 1940 section? The empire was defeated in World War II and renamed "Japan" Aquitania (talk) 02:28, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Montenegro

It was not a referendum, but a so-called "Gran national assenbly", whose legality is widely disputed that abolished Kingdom of Montenegro. Also, it's highly questionable which flag was used at the time (at least, coat of arms on flag is needed).