User talk:Roxburgh NZ

Hi - welcome to my Talk talk page..

I am user:Roxburgh_NZ

? (Roxburgh NZ (talk) 13:25, 8 May 2010 (UTC))

Roxburgh NZ (talk) 04:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

(my page - my way - & thus - has NO RULES - remember)

OK

First of all - READ THIS

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Paradox# And then - you too - will KNOW that this "apparent" Paradox - is actaully a dual truth - & NOT actually a Paradox ?

See? (nah- didn't think so?)

Ok - carry on...

? - I'v spotted an INSTRUCTION - (in my "last" re-RE_re.RE ? re-edit)

?- way way down below - at the extreme BOTTOM herein ...

It's this "piece" which - because it's easiest for me - I simply (did) AGAIN

a bulk CUT & PASTE ... whilst LEAVING - the rest.. ryt down ..

@ the botum of MWY PAIGE(?)

(ok) So- here's the excerpt- to get you cranked (I mean - started)

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etc etc etc "verbatum" - with & FROM the WHOLE (wikipedia) PAGE - as "1st_copied" below ...

Cheers Roxburgh NZ (talk) 04:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

PLUS

PLEASE - do "re-edit" - Or / add to / subtract from - reshuffle & or simply rewrite? As? (here's) another CUT & PASTE - direct from the relevant "rules' page - here in Wikipedeia...?

Generalizations and non sequitur statements This article may contain original research. Please improve it by verifying the claims made and adding references. Statements consisting only of original research may be removed. More details may be available on the talk page. (April 2008) It has been suggested that this article or section be merged into non sequitur (logic). (Discuss) The vagueness of ((CHANGED WORD)) "MY" statement may disguise the validity or the aim of that statement

Ooops did that wrong - OK - am trying this?

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Weasel_word

Generalizations and non sequitur statements

The vagueness of a statement may disguise the validity or the aim of that statement.

And... As it will become also obvious - the reverse is also true (being as it is - a mirror image of the original)

The vagueness of "MY" ((CHANGED WORDING OF THOSE)) statements may ALSO (completely obscure - unintentionally)

& or accidentally "disguise" ANY of the validity or the aim of my statements

(AS OPENED - FOR DISCUSSION - BELOW)

Cheers & thanks for re-editing (because - already - I know you will)

Roxburgh NZ (talk) 06:29, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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My REPLY - (which yes - is ALL (yes all) I did here - ? (as I still DON't know - how to TALK to a robotic auto inserter thingie ... THING-?-ie)

Ah... 1st.. had a devils own job... trying to "click"my own TALK - before I spotted edit page..

And yes 2nd... I may be a slow learner .. but you willl see - that sometimes I click - before I look UP at the screen ... & relalise that yes... i'v forgotten again... (Roxburgh NZ to put "something" like this in here - so ? ? um - does anywhere count .. if I "suddenly" get a rememberance falsh ... & popover a (Roxburgh NZ) thing? hey thats silly . I did the ( then the 4 Roxburgh NZ (talk) things & then then outer ) as it tells me to do... BUT the auto thing... dumps two sets both different? Another IT glitch on my part maybe...? & I simply HATE with a dreadfulH* .. that need to double enter just to get the sentences "Flowed left.. without hugely long strings ... simply flowing aways - out into the nether regions of space - simply because there is no? page outer limiter foldback thingies... like my old typewritter had - just after it went DING & (smashed my fingers with the returnurning cartridge) ALRIGHT ... stupid "information page - states that (____) thing wrongly ... ? as it should ONLY have the four wavy ~ marks... & "not enclosed in parenthisess BRACKETS as well?

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no - not those "", but these () "brackets ... ?yeah?... oops almost 4got to sign Roxburgh NZ (talk) 14:51, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

wahoo ?

Um?

((BOLD:TYPE))

2x Minor Edit's Here - as I've just realised that the double squiggles (that I'd 1st thought) MAY actually get - Common Sense - "page" on wiki - where THIS all is (started) (actually didn't -thus this 2nd MINOR re-edit)

((( As - no sorry - tried that & it only got a non-existant template ? - obviously ??? when I think on it a tad... as I now remember the others that I've done elsewhere? were dead enders as well? So)))

I still have no idea - and BOTH you & I will just (have2) do the long link http thingies together))

& not this dead ending ? NOTA template of anything ? Template:Common Sense that isn't "common' (to me) "sense" thing?

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(as it's just a dead-link - THAT) Should HAVE gone to here ...

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Common_sense#Use_common_sense But - I "didn't" KNOW eh ? (until it actually "WENT" public - for me to click "it" through?) And thus - I'm back - as it dead ended... (see?) Roxburgh NZ (talk) 03:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC) Roxburgh NZ (talk) 03:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

COMMON SENSE - Like - where is it? Whats it for? & WHAT? If it's wrong?)) Well - I have spotted so many places - where MY own (possibly totally warped) COMMON SENSE ... would appear to be trying really hard - for me to >simply rock_on & edit hither & thither... BUT? Methinks- as this is MY talk page - it's simply better- if I plonk the COMMON SENSE "edit" in here ~ '-=-' ~ and then simply - walk away /// ? Thus - ON here - in (my) talk page - it's (ONLY) semi public .?. and yet JUST my own personal opinion .. and thus - as such not actually vandalises ((my [TALK] page)) as such - nor does it discredit Wiki - No.! it simply allows the reader - to "see" where MY (own) common sense - wandered OFF COURSE - from everyone elses... (and that it IS obviously still " off " the_course SOMEWHERE) ? & maybe this explanation - will in some infinitesmally small way - go someway to giving an insight - into what I'v discoverd (off_the_path) and also .. where I'v dissappeared to - in the last 56yrs? (and WHY - I haven't bothered ? COMING BACK - to your - ? "Common_Sense" ?

I had done the following - as a DRAFT - on the Wikipedia:Common Sense "page" BUT.. Thankfully held back & saved to my own notepads...? Here is that "discussion" (notice that I simply SELECTED ALL "that" web page & drafted it holiss_boliss ... into a std notepad .txt file)

http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Policies_and_guidelines&action=submit

Common Sense ? What happens if it's (always) been WRONG ?

The reason I ask this ... is three fold (see I am 3rd gender human too - XXY and cannot even register my OWN gender here in my preferences without telling a lie - I'm neither male XY nor Female XX - but half & half best of both - as an I = Intersex XXY)

1/- Common Sense - to me - is NOT always common to "me", (as per above), and I have always thought - no, not outside the inner circle .. nor just - outside the square ... I have known the need to seek further than that & that there must have been a brilliant reason - before even time itself began - for the meaning of:-

EVERYTHING OCCURS IN THREE

Thus:- I have always had a different "inner_sense" of common sense - to everyone else around me (in other words ... I haven't simply accepted the staus quo - nor simply blindly gone forth - accepting world wide trends - to play follow the leader - down the audio principles pathways - set forth by those around the - Mono versus Stereo "fraternity" (basically just a TWO WAY law? Being an either 1 or 2 principle of either / or .. and never the THRIRD shall we consider?)

The main reason that I have never followed generally acceppted princpals of Common Sense - is that I have always tended to "live" as a hermit - thus to me - ONLY my sense - has been common - to me.. (make sense?) no?) ....?

Anyway's ... I read somewhere here... earlier .. that in order for me to justify a long proven theorum which I have spent a significant proportion of my entire existance doing - my own way (as being mainly a hermit, I have done)... I must do some fast talking (or long winded talkspeak - in my terms) .... to show those of worldly accepted NORMS of common sense - that "my" common sense is actually quite different (that it isn't just an autobiography as such - but a fairly good reason) - and that in the last three or so years - I have basically NOW come out of my personal shell (cave) so to speak - to advise the rest of the world - hey? Actually - the either OR camp way of thinking "common Sense" isn't actually - nor factually correct...

(I think this is still part of 1/- above but perhaps my "explanation" needs shortening? so?

2/- I am able to "prove" absolutely positively - not just with SOUND "hearing" - nor even just with LIGHT - seeing .. but with POWER - "electricaal" wiring schematics (written materials, personally drawn graphics & even cellphone videos & still photos slideshows - where I have co-joined LIGHT & SOUND "together" along with hand drawn & computor assisted graphics - via my XP's "paint" program) ... and not only do I have litteraly a hundred such videos floating OUT THERE - already in the FREELY accessible public domains o youtube & Xanga ... but I have litterally flooded the entire web - with my knowledges - in a little over three years... & even THAT is something easily verifiable even to "wikipedians" ... by simply googling my personally coined phrase of Quick to Fix ... or QUIX - which I did also use to explain a Quick - to Affix interpretaion of application - for my Internationally held Patents (3 of them) on a revolutionary Gate Hinge Innovation - also verifyable via (1998) NZ Pat 330 552, (1999) Aust Pat 754 678, & via the (1999) "Swiss" WPO - PCT/NZ99/00066 pat appl that covered me for over 90 countries (& thus world wide...?)

So? Common Sense - to me - isn't "actually" all that COMMON !

Um

... where was I?

Oh- yes... (and even though I did "hold" those 3 Patents - they were takien with so-called Professional advice of "Common Sense" - to which I didn't even hold a candle towards)

So... I actually DO NOT HOLD - with the so-called COMMON belief - that HUMANS have any "copyright" upon anything (neither HEARD nor SEEN) - after they publically expose them - into the area of public knowledge (& perceptions) nor do I believe they have the COPYRIGHT upon any "principlal" that was CREATED - by our own OMNIPOTENT Creator/s (and yes - I do think 3 are part of the "main_one" - as logic has always shown me - that is the case) ... away back - EVEN BEFORE TIME BEGAN....

As I believe it was the ALMIGHTY CREATOR "ENTITY" (of all 3-in-1) - whom actually "holds all rights - to all so-called COPY & DUPLICATION "rights" ... AND that "he/she" AND "IT" (yes ... not a COMMON SENSE THOUGHT - BUT A GENUINE BELIEF ... OF THE ACTUAL EXISTANCE - OF A TRUE 3-in-1)

Thus.. it is with MY common sense - that anything I can hear, see, touch, experience AND "know" thus - because it was originally CREATED - by my "creator" - through whomever 7 however my CREATOR - was wanting to "advise_me" of it's existance ... then becomes - to me - MY right - to do with - however I please (see)

As MY right of "choice" ... "ISN'T MINE"

(See) - As "being_free" to do it MY WAY ... or MY COMMON SENSE way ... or The ONLY WAY ?

Actually will always only ever be ... THE ONE WAY = "all" 3 paths lead to the "same" door - (of MY CREATORS "big_plan")

- ) Oh dear - it did it again ,,, & dropped my smilie

OK (I'll try it like this)

semi_colon + hyphen + END_BRACKET -= smilie ...? OK

Thus.... copyright to me - DOES NOT EXIST - if something has become PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE The only exeption is this... EXACT DUPLICATION of a "thing" or physically product ... can be attributed in PROFIT 9monetary means) .... for those fully proven - to be AN EXACT COPY.

(and yes - I do believe we were GIVEN the right to "profit" by our own "work" - where that notes - that the WORK - being that which WE - DID manually "MAKE" ... is the only thing we can "CLAIM" as being COPIED)

BUT ... here's where MY thought (of common sense) "differs" from that of the rest of the world...!!!!

I do not HOLD - with the general blief ... that something - released into the "PUBLIC_ DOMAIN" & especially if the WORK has been SOLD to the recipient .. that ANY FUTURE WORK - "created' by the BUYER - by that "work" - IF .... it it has HAD the BUYERS "own input ADDED to that ... can anything - ever be "WRONGFULLY CLAIMED ... as a copy (because it can be actually "fully_proven" - that the original seller - could NOT POSSIBLY had prior RIGHT to that added content - (added by the buyer)

THIS IS EVEN A WORLD WIDE ACCEPTED PRINCIPAL IN ALL OTHER FIELDS OF BARTER

If a manufacturer "buys" articles .. from suppliers... AND THEN MELDS THOSE ARTICLES... into their "own" final (or pre-assembled) PART ... the NEW RIGHT - of copyright ... goes to the MANUFACTURER - of that "result"

No (component) supplier can then "retract_back" and CLAIM - full and total COPYRIGHT - to the NEW WORK ... simply because some minor or even a major component - was theirs "ORIGINALLY"

(and sorry if my "up" - & "DPWN" caps locking ... offends anyone - !!!

BUT I consider that NOT to be actually shouting ^?^ AS YOU SO COMMONLY CALL THIS - being with caps_lock "up & downing" - as THAT is just my OWN PERSONAL WAY OF COMMUNICATING VIA TYPE - as it is ALSO an extentsion of my "common_sense" way - of strongly 'emphasising' things... just as is my prolific usage of ALL THINGS - being my HANDS - & eyes, arms, ears, nos,e feet & anything else that DOES the waggles & wiggles such as eyebrows, smiles & brow_furrows ... DO ... when I AM SPEAKING - face to face with others... ??? - And thus I do "not" consider that AS shouting...

Sorry - just had to get THAT in there eh?

I do - consider shouting as the "other" method of caps lock ..

AND HERE IT IS... (JUST FOR A DEMONSTRATION - OK) THE PERMANENT USEAGE - OF CAPS LOCK ............... (that simply goes ON & ONNNNNNNNNN)

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(that is what I consiedr as SHoutINg ... noT the Up & doWn and in & out way ...that sometimes even just occures ...becaudse - I have 2 HUGE THUMBS AND some (lazy) FINGERS - and "no" actual white paint - on nost of these BALCK keys any wore... as 56, 000 pages of "keyword hits via google - muat TELL you by now - that Iv'v alwo ?? where was I? (rats/...!!! again - lost my memory of keypad KEY positions "here" for a moment there)

Oh - yes ... 56, 000 pages of hits ... with 100 hit results PER PAGE ... of all of my yabberings & typings - over the last 3 - 4 yrs... have almost WORN away the keys ... let alone that silly wee bit of white paint - that denoted WHICH letter or "key" i'v hit... AND because I HAVE to watch where my fingers GO on the blackend keys ... I do not ever get the chanec - to actually WATCH the screen - >

As i said ? I was "trying" 2B doing - NOW.

I also somtimes slip - n2 txt mode wh3n typing as 1 just "4gt that i am NOT trying to keep UP w1th my son - when he rapid fires txts 2me... C? Thus - all over the internet - PEOPLE keep trying to TELL ME - that I cannot rit... tht I dnt evn hv UGNLISH as my ntaive lnguaage ... (without absolutely MISSUNDERSTANDING - that I "aslo" have DSS.. w8 ... d y s l e x i a ...adn often dont even gt the LETTERS - n the ryt odrer ...

? I 8nt stpiud ... I'm just to fast at hitting the wrong black key - FRIST.

So? Common Sense .. does NOT apply -to me. OK - I 8nt COMMON.

My CREATOR - made me uneek, Uneq ? (or:- U N I Q U E --- as you would spell that thing)

& 3/-

I finally remember ... SEE - even "this" old (kiwi - human) ELEPHANT rwmembers if he types long enough...

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You'll need to do some pretty fast talking to get away with not adhering to the consensus within policy pages, though this is not impossible, if you somehow happen to know something that many years of collective wisdom hasn't discovered yet

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Ah - yes... I do NOT also hold with the so-called COMMON "collective" wisdom - of the r4est of the world... THAT "truth MUST ONLY EVER BE TOLD .. after the discoverer of that truth

(ME) IS DEAD _ BURIED _ AND ALMOST TOO LONG FORGOTTEN

Thus:- I stronly believe - that when someone has "proven" beyond a shadow of a doubt - to themselves... and the FEW poeple around hem - that they have CONSIDERED as being worldly wise enough - to actually KNOW the difference - (between the old truths of common knowledge - and the NEW TRUTH - this person can PROVE to have discoverd...)

THEN ... why then WAIT - until hundreds of years have past ... and the "NEW truth - is now almost a forgotten MUST HAVE?

Before being able to "let" the world konw ... THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE..

It's almost impossibly easy to get.. AND IT WORKS.

AND often A HELLOFALOTBETTER ... than (so-called?) ? MASSIVELY AVAILABLE _COMMONLY ACCEPTED PRACTICES.

Not... when the GRAMMAPHONE (mono) Was replaced with TWO CH stereo ... did the WORLD have to wait a thousand years ... before being told? NO... the WORLD grabbed this as soon as it became KNOWN

WHY? Because OUR CREATOR ... doesn't JUST set one person - the TASK ... of "revealing" a truth.

(Note:- Not of discovering "some_THING_new" or - of creating out of "thin_air" - NOR for the first time? - But of finally "unvieling" & revealing - AN OLD PRINCIPAL OR A FULLY WORKING TECHNIQUE & APPLICATION - THAT OUR CREATOR CREATED MIILLIONS OF EONS AGO ...Ok?)

Oh no - OUR CREATOR has a plan - and THAT PLAN - invariably HAVING all three "choices" of techniques.. being IMPLANTED into human beings MINDS - ryt a-X the globe... EVERYWHERE - like grains of WHEAT scattered across the whole feild...

AS even our OMNIPOTENT CREATOR KNOWS ... just simply "planting" one seed - WILL NOT CREATE A HARVEST - of any worth.

This is why ... I now toss "thi"s - )yes lengthy explanation( ... into your melting pot.

COMMON SENSE? What happens IF - IF it is wrong.

Can I not "somehow - somewhere ... CREATE a "living" autobiography (verifiable by me) ... and BY VIDEOS & PHOTOS & SELF DRAWN PTAPHICS & PICTURES... without having to WAIT - until ALL this knowledge in my HEAD - DIES WHEN I DIE?

Why not "get it OUT - into the public domain - IN THE BEST WAY - until now - THAT MY CREATOR HAS GIVEN ME - this well worn unreadable keypad & the internet...?

As - VERIFIABLE STUFF ... is already everywhere ? splattered already - far & wide - which - when PEOPLE VIEW & HEAR & feel & touch smell taste & ? (hell I don't know how they "interact" with their Computor monitors) ...? They can immediately KNOW - that most of my writting here .. IS - actually true.

I H8 embelissments - as that detrcts FROM finding the INNOVATION ... embelissments COVER & hide things... that I have always sought to "reveal... WHY th 4k (oops i swore) Why would I want to embelish things...? BUT - just as honsetly ... why would I WANT - to acceed to some COVER_UP "commonsense rule? prinxipal - call it what you will - of NOT writting an autopbiography ... ON THE SUBJECT - of

audio (ANALOGUE AUDIO)

Neither JUST one ch - MONO...?

NOR - of the so_called "NORM" - of two ? Stereo

BUT .. of !

W8 4 1T...>

THREE ... TRIPELLO = 3 as in 3D (true) VOLUME ... and not just an amplified "loudness" (WHICH IS NOT A CONTAINER VOLUME)

As even YOU know - inside your own "knowledges" that

ONE = MONO = a pin point (ONE PLANE) & thus - it will always equal ? 1-D

A pin point - has NO area, (ONLY two PLANES CAN GIVE area) & thus - TWO will always just give ? 2-D

It has NO SIZE a_n_d "THUS" h_a_s "NO" v_o_l_u_m_e = 3-D (only THREE being - planes, points or angles... can GIVE volume)

Only THREE points of reference - can GIVE the minimum number of "targets"

To then allow for the representation of VOLUME - in 3-D Ever seen a (three dimensional) TWO SIDED PYRAMID (in real live) One that has ??VOLUME??

Sure - by using TWO chs of stereo... SOME can & do claim that ONLY two chs of AUDIO can ever exist

(such as Dol.. oops I'm suposedly not allowed to NAME that little RAY of audio knowledge?)

But - MY CREATOR .. allowed me - to "discover" an old Philips VALVE AMPLIFIED reeL to reel 3/8 tape 2ch stereo valve portable 4way - (forwards & reverse) MAGNETIC TAPE RECORDER/player - in the local rubbish DUMP ... when I was scavenging for "anything" that I could convert into any number of other weird contraptions - which I often "tried_to" & sometimes MADE - in my early youth...

It was as I was "CLEANING one of the "valves" in an attempt to "get it going" (better) ? As I thought - OK - it still goes .. and I used it for several years - until I was venturesome enouggh AT 12yrs of age... to "venture inside the works (opened the casings & rummaged insied the wiring) ... before I accidentally DROPPED and "broke the silly we glass valve"

Oops?

BUT - all was NOT lost... DAVID READ - was by that time - just starting to make" simple mono electronic amp KIT's - 9v DC battery powered mind... so? I thought - as all inventive 12yr olds SHOULD... that I'd simply RIP OUT all valve associated wit=rings... and toss these NEW electronic thingies IN...

HAHAHA - yes - NOW you too can smile too (As I often do - knowing that I would STILL be listening to "old" & useless 2ch flat screen type "sound" - IN BASIC STEREO - if I had NOT broken that valve).

But w8 - I not only RIPPED out all valve gear & wiring..

I DID NOT BOTHER (even) WRITTING DOWN - OR LABELING TERMINATIONS.

Thus - on a dual directional stereo 2ch tape recorder - with a quad track HEAD and TWO independant ERASURE HEADS - on either side... OH - and plus two extra DUAL DIRECTION "monitor heads...?

ALL I had... afterwards, was these two wee flimsy "electronic" OPEN PLAN ... formic plates... with rough SOLDERED? items on them - and just six wires on each KITSET (& I d

o mean ROUGH - I used a plumbers ONE INCH HEAD "petrol_fired" soldering torch - for soldering the "tiny" terminals & "things" ... probably cooking most of the electronics along the way - which is why I eventually had to "make" a third to replace a dud that hadn't worked eh?)

ANYWAY.

I had a problem - SO? I solved it - my COMMON SENSE WAY...

I simply used the old AC "power" transformer - which "luckily" I had left inside this contraption - and "somehow - got ONE 9vDC kitset working.. then - having USED two of the 6 wires +&- 9v DC input power wires... ALL that I had left - were two wires for signal input & two for speaker output?

Ok - these 2 inputs - are easy.. they just go to & via the microphone sockets ... as these auto linked - BACK to the "player head ... when PLAY MODE is selected - so? where do these wires for the sockets terminate? .. DONE

Now? I have two NEW wires - from THE input socket - instead of the INPUT wires on the KIT AMP... sweet & I only have TWO wires left... "outputting" from on the amp Wahoo 4wires to connect - almost DONE?

AND YET? The main head has eight pins (AND an earth on it) ... and BOTH those wee (erasure) heads have two as well ...? Um? OK .. POWER ON (yes even back the - I was an electrician - my way) .. and YAP - oops no...? OK - so? OK - I got my sisters wee portable National I think it was - LPm & 45rpm palyer going... & secretly borrowed one of her records to USE as a signal injector

Wow - how was I to know - THAT MY CREATOR - had ensured that the ONLY "record" I chose - contained the SONG which later PROVED TO BE - just a ONE_OFF

(The Holly Wood Argyles - Alley Oop)

Anyways - I hot soldered .. my two output wires AND THE TWO INPUT WIRES ... across any number of "possible" applications ... on that MAIN HEAD - as well as I "many" (many) times ... simply RAN a recording/play function - either way Oh - & thus past the monitors (oh yes - it hAD those extra functions too - a tiny wee head each side o the main - also with terminals.. i never used them & had forgotten about them until now)

Hey - don't knock my reasoning - nor wastefull nature - I had a WHOLE BOX of differrent sized R(spare) EELS to choose from - & I didn't KNOW if they were used or new .. & as I just WANTED to have something to "check" to see- if I had actually RECORDED anything... the only trouble being ... I COULDN'T CHECK - using my "un" terminated machine ... & I had to go to across the paddocks - to my friends house - and we'd "listen" to my results (days later) .. often to simply HEAR ? HOURS OF MASSIVE POWER BUZZINGS - as I zapped across heads - with a NEW electric soldering iron - that I had bought after making the first kitset (that didn't work)

PLUS ... ALSO (again - why does that not surprise me) I DID NOT actually "write down any NOTES - as to where on the "thus" recorded tape - the recording was actually made? WHEN - nor made - for WHICH PINS - on the head - that I'd connected...

SEE - Innovative Inventor - I may be - (but even then - writting "readiable" quick notes - elluded me - when I was young as well)

So? Needless to state - the actual TASK of "getting the OLD Philips 9made in Holland) Dual Directional 2ch 4head recorder working - was an eventual NO_GO

BUT ... The TAPES...? The tapes were a diffeent story..

YOU SEE - I never DID erase the previous content - ever... SO?

Not only did I have the original "songs" and stuff PLAYABLE - I also had my "alternative" wirings ... across the heads.. INJECTING - Alley opps .. into some very weird places

Some of these - as strange as it MAY now appear - STILL make perfect COMMON SENSE - to me.

See.

One song - playing forwards - in stereo ... WITH ONE - accidentally wired HEADWORKS - "recording" as the tape was "running" (in reverse record mode) ... MEANT - THREE SONGS

3songs? YEP - 3

I got the orinal song forwards AND ... I got MY one accidental Alley ooops tack - in REVERSE ... AND - I got a new crossover harmonc (3RD) SONG TUNE - even sometimes with almost recognisible words - PLAYING BETWEEN THESE TWO ACTUAL SONGS.

THEN - when I realised that - I simply tossed the (now utterly defunct) Philips Tape Recorder away - AND spent the rest of my life ... FINDING all the ways - to GET my "new" TRIPELLO 3D "effects" out of my old sterophonic Majestic two in one - it had 4bands of SW - one of LW - one of AM & a Gerrad 16/33/45 & 78 record player AND two huge stereo outputs

2chs ... from which I created (revealed) THREE

As I simplty NOW had a volumetric container - i simply set about discovering ... HOW MANY triangulation points - I could easily reaveal - inside those tow MAIN "pre-recordined" song chs - of my LP's & 78's & 45's (as I never did find any 16rpm records) ,P. BUT - I can tell you this ...

IN 1965 - I strongly believe - that I waas the first human on this earth - whom ever HEARD & played SIX channel 3D surround sound - from my sisters Alley Oop record (or from ALL others as well - as my friends OFTEN then came around to PLAY THERE STUFF - in surround

(well - maybe NOT friends? But neighbours kids - "actually" - who I had been forced to let into a little part of my experiments - as i'd used or abused - their own parents equipment - in some manner)

Anyway.. it did NOT take me too long - to "feed" a SUMATION of all those SIX - into a blender I'd made - TO GET THE SUMMATION RESULT - (true) CENTRE OF ROOM - seventh ch

Plus .. it doesn't take a genius to "calculate" that running a MONO - (easy NOW with new PC pack - 2.1 multi media "sets") ... that by MONO'ing - between adjacent "chs - of tose SIX ... can I then get the mono INTERMEDIATES (I don't call them subs - as I MONO the stero outputs - and get full frequency INTERMEDIATE CHS)

Thus.. SIX mains - and ONE (centre) SUMMATION - plus SIX extra INTERMEDIARIES ... very quickly GOT this 12yr old going on 56 (as I am now) Kiwi Lad - the worlds ONLY fully functional 13 ch - PLUS 13 SUB WOOFERED system - of full total surround sound - EVER

And- it "plays all existing - pre-recorded - LIVE - Open air "FM stereo broadcasts - and even DIRECT PLAYS - from the outputs - via a 2ch amp - (main) as someone sits & LIVE plays a Yamaha or similar electronic organ.

Now .. WHY should I USE - falsly claimed COMMON SENSE ? to hide MY CREATORS - infinite wisdom - of ALL aspects of the ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM - from your minds - until I am threethousand yrs dead?

(and I am remembering - SIGN - but not with the silly one - I put earlier - pf K... C... of NZ(no I didn't put DOTS "..." but I actually wrote all the letters "earlier" - before i became a registerwed used - to hide my IP? silly i know - but my IP - is more valuable to me - thatn my actual NAME ??? see - AGAIN - COMMON_SENSE_VALUES - for you & me "differ" - see)

so ... I'll sign the wiki way - 4u - ok?

(but before i go - please - by all means - VALIDATE Before you consider deleting - these ... ? MY WORDS

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Common Sense ? What happens if it's (always) been WRONG ? The reason I ask this ... is three fold (see I am 3rd gender human too - XXY and cannot even register my OWN gender here in my preferences without telling a lie - I'm neither male XY nor Female XX - but half & half best of both - as an I = Intersex XXY)

1/- Common Sense - to me - is NOT always common to "me", (as per above), and I have always thought - no, not outside the inner circle .. nor just - outside the square ... I have known the need to seek further than that & that there must have been a brilliant reason - before even time itself began - for the meaning of:-

EVERYTHING OCCURS IN THREE

Thus:- I have always had a different "inner_sense" of common sense - to everyone else around me (in other words ... I haven't simply accepted the staus quo - nor simply blindly gone forth - accepting world wide trends - to play follow the leader - down the audio principles pathways - set forth by those around the - Mono versus Stereo "fraternity" (basically just a TWO WAY law? Being an either 1 or 2 principle of either / or .. and never the THRIRD shall we consider?)

The main reason that I have never followed generally acceppted princpals of Common Sense - is that I have always tended to "live" as a hermit - thus to me - ONLY my sense - has been common - to me.. (make sense?) no?) ....? Anyway's ... I read somewhere here... earlier .. that in order for me to justify a long proven theorum which I have spent a significant proportion of my entire existance doing - my own way (as being mainly a hermit, I have done)... I must do some fast talking (or long winded talkspeak - in my terms) .... to show those of worldly accepted NORMS of common sense - that "my" common sense is actually quite different (that it isn't just an autobiography as such - but a fairly good reason) - and that in the last three or so years - I have basically NOW come out of my personal shell (cave) so to speak - to advise the rest of the world - hey? Actually - the either OR camp way of thinking "common Sense" isn't actually - nor factually correct...

(I think this is still part of 1/- above but perhaps my "explanation" needs shortening? so?

2/- I am able to "prove" absolutely positively - not just with SOUND "hearing" - nor even just with LIGHT - seeing .. but with POWER - "electricaal" wiring schematics (written materials, personally drawn graphics & even cellphone videos & still photos slideshows - where I have co-joined LIGHT & SOUND "together" along with hand drawn & computor assisted graphics - via my XP's "paint" program) ... and not only do I have litteraly a hundred such videos floating OUT THERE - already in the FREELY accessible public domains o youtube & Xanga ... but I have litterally flooded the entire web - with my knowledges - in a little over three years... & even THAT is something easily verifiable even to "wikipedians" ... by simply googling my personally coined phrase of Quick to Fix ... or QUIX - which I did also use to explain a Quick - to Affix interpretaion of application - for my Internationally held Patents (3 of them) on a revolutionary Gate Hinge Innovation - also verifyable via (1998) NZ Pat 330 552, (1999) Aust Pat 754 678, & via the (1999) "Swiss" WPO - PCT/NZ99/00066 pat appl that covered me for over 90 countries (& thus world wide...?)

So? Common Sense - to me - isn't "actually" all that COMMON !

Um ... where was I?

Oh- yes... (and even though I did "hold" those 3 Patents - they were takien with so-called Professional advice of "Common Sense" - to which I didn't even hold a candle towards)

So... I actually DO NOT HOLD - with the so-called COMMON belief - that HUMANS have any "copyright" upon anything (neither HEARD nor SEEN) - after they publically expose them - into the area of public knowledge (& perceptions) nor do I believe they have the COPYRIGHT upon any "principlal" that was CREATED - by our own OMNIPOTENT Creator/s (and yes - I do think 3 are part of the "main_one" - as logic has always shown me - that is the case) ... away back - EVEN BEFORE TIME BEGAN....

As I believe it was the ALMIGHTY CREATOR "ENTITY" (of all 3-in-1) - whom actually "holds all rights - to all so-called COPY & DUPLICATION "rights" ... AND that "he/she" AND "IT" (yes ... not a COMMON SENSE THOUGHT - BUT A GENUINE BELIEF ... OF THE ACTUAL EXISTANCE - OF A TRUE 3-in-1)

Thus.. it is with MY common sense - that anything I can hear, see, touch, experience AND "know" thus - because it was originally CREATED - by my "creator" - through whomever 7 however my CREATOR - was wanting to "advise_me" of it's existance ... then becomes - to me - MY right - to do with - however I please (see)

As MY right of "choice" ... "ISN'T MINE"

(See) - As "being_free" to do it MY WAY ... or MY COMMON SENSE way ... or The ONLY WAY ?

Actually will always only ever be ... THE ONE WAY = "all" 3 paths lead to the "same" door - (of MY CREATORS "big_plan")

- ) Thus.... copyright to me - DOES NOT EXIST - if something has become PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE The only exeption is this... EXACT DUPLICATION of a "thing" or physically product ... can be attributed in PROFIT 9monetary means) .... for those fully proven - to be AN EXACT COPY.

(and yes - I do believe we were GIVEN the right to "profit" by our own "work" - where that notes - that the WORK - being that which WE - DID manually "MAKE" ... is the only thing we can "CLAIM" as being COPIED)

BUT ... here's where MY thought (of common sense) "differs" from that of the rest of the world...!!!!

I do not HOLD - with the general blief ... that something - released into the "PUBLIC_ DOMAIN" & especially if the WORK has been SOLD to the recipient .. that ANY FUTURE WORK - "created' by the BUYER - by that "work" - IF .... it it has HAD the BUYERS "own input ADDED to that ... can anything - ever be "WRONGFULLY CLAIMED ... as a copy (because it can be actually "fully_proven" - that the original seller - could NOT POSSIBLY had prior RIGHT to that added content - (added by the buyer)

THIS IS EVEN A WORLD WIDE ACCEPTED PRINCIPAL IN ALL OTHER FIELDS OF BARTER

If a manufacturer "buys" articles .. from suppliers... AND THEN MELDS THOSE ARTICLES... into their "own" final (or pre-assembled) PART ... the NEW RIGHT - of copyright ... goes to the MANUFACTURER - of that "result"

No (component) supplier can then "retract_back" and CLAIM - full and total COPYRIGHT - to the NEW WORK ... simply because some minor or even a major component - was theirs "ORIGINALLY"

(and sorry if my "up" - & "DPWN" caps locking ... offends anyone - !!!

BUT I consider that NOT to be actually shouting ^?^ AS YOU SO COMMONLY CALL THIS - being with caps_lock "up & downing" - as THAT is just my OWN PERSONAL WAY OF COMMUNICATING VIA TYPE - as it is ALSO an extentsion of my "common_sense" way - of strongly 'emphasising' things... just as is my prolific usage of ALL THINGS - being my HANDS - & eyes, arms, ears, nos,e feet & anything else that DOES the waggles & wiggles such as eyebrows, smiles & brow_furrows ... DO ... when I AM SPEAKING - face to face with others... ??? - And thus I do "not" consider that AS shouting...

Sorry - just had to get THAT in there eh?

I do - consider shouting as the "other" method of caps lock ..

AND HERE IT IS... (JUST FOR A DEMONSTRATION - OK) THE PERMANENT USEAGE - OF CAPS LOCK ...............

(that is what I consiedr as SHoutINg ... noT the Up A7 and way ...that sometimes even just occures ...becaudse - I have HUGE THUMBS AND FINGERS - and "no" actual white paint - on nost of these BALCK keys any wore... as 56, 000 pages of "keyword hits via google - muat TELL you by now - that Iv'v alwo (rats/...!!! lost my memory of key positions for a mooent there)

Oh - yes ... 56, 000 pages of hits ... with 100 hit results PER PAGE ... of all of my yabberings & typings - over the last 3 - 4 yrs... have almost WORN away the keys ... let alone that silly wee bit of white paint - that denoted WHICH letter or "key" i'v hit... AND because I HAVE to watch where my fingers GO on the blackend keys ... I do not ever get the chanec - to actually WATCH the screen - >

As isd ? oops I was "trying" 2B doing - NOW.

I also somtimes slip - n2 txt mode wh3n typing as 1 just "4gt that i am NOT trying to keep UP w1th my son - when he rapid fires txts 2me... C? Thus - all over the internet - PEOPLE keep trying to TELL ME - that I cannot rit... tht I dnt evn hv UGNLISH as my ntaive lnguaage ... (without absolutely MISSUNDERSTANDING - that I "aslo" have DSS.. w8 ... d y s l e x i a ...adn often dont even gt the LETTERS - n the ryt odrer ...

I 8nt stpiud ... I'm just to fast at hitting the wrong black key - FRIST. So? Common Sense .. does NOT apply -to me. OK - I 8nt COMMON.

My CREATOR - made me uneek, Uneq ? (or:- U N I Q U E --- as you would spell that thing)

& 3/-

I finally remember ...

SEE - even "this" old (kiwi - human) ELEPHANT rwmembers if he types long enough... quote

You'll need to do some pretty fast talking to get away with not adhering to the consensus within policy pages, though this is not impossible, if you somehow happen to know something that many years of collective wisdom hasn't discovered yet

un-quote

Ah - yes... I do NOT also hold with the so-called COMMON "collective" wisdom - of the r4est of the world... THAT "truth MUST ONLY EVER BE TOLD .. after the discoverer of that truth

IS DEAD _ BURIED _ AND ALMOST TOO LONG FORGOTTEN

I stronly believe - that when someone has "proven" beyond a shadow of a doubt - to themselves... and the FEW poeple around hem - that they have CONSIDERED as being worldly wise enough - to actually KNOW the difference - (between the old truths of common knowledge - and the NEW TRUTH - this person can PROVE to have discoverd...)

THEN ... why then WAIT - until hundreds of years have past ... and the "NEW truth - is now almost a forgotten MUST HAVE?

Before being able to "let" the world konw ... THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE..

It's almost impossibly easy to get.. AND IT WORKS.

AND often A HELLOFALOTBETTER ... than (so-called?) ? MASSIVELY AVAILABLE _COMMONLY ACCEPTED PRACTICES.

Not... when the GRAMMAPHONE (mono) Was replaced with TWO CH stereo ... did the WORLD have to wait a thousand years ... before being told? NO... the WORLD grabbed this as soon as it became KNOWN

WHY? Because OUR CREATOR ... doesn't JUST set one person - the TASK ... of "revealing" a truth.

(Note:- Not of discovering "some_THING_new" or - of creating out of "thin_air" - NOR for the first time? - But of finally "unvieling" & revealing - AN OLD PRINCIPAL OR A FULLY WORKING TECHNIQUE & APPLICATION - THAT OUR CREATOR CREATED MIILLIONS OF EONS AGO ...Ok?)

Oh no - OUR CREATOR has a plan - and THAT PLAN - invariably HAVING all three "choices" of techniques.. being IMPLANTED into human beings MINDS - ryt a-X the globe... EVERYWHERE - like grains of WHEAT scattered across the whole feild...

AS even our OMNIPOTENT CREATOR KNOWS ... just simply "planting" one seed - WILL NOT CREATE A HARVEST - of any worth.

This is why ... I now toss "thi"s - )yes lengthy explanation( ... into your melting pot.

COMMON SENSE? What happens IF - IF it is wrong.

Can I not "somehow - somewhere ... CREATE a "living" autobiography (verifiable by me) ... and BY VIDEOS & PHOTOS & SELF DRAWN PTAPHICS & PICTURES... without having to WAIT - until ALL this knowledge in my HEAD - DIES WHEN I DIE?

Why not "get it OUT - into the public domain - IN THE BEST WAY - until now - THAT MY CREATOR HAS GIVEN ME - this well worn unreadable keypad & the internet...?

As - VERIFIABLE STUFF ... is already everywhere ? splattered already - far & wide - which - when PEOPLE VIEW & HEAR & feel & touch smell taste & ? (hell I don't know how they "interact" with their Computor monitors) ...? They can immediately KNOW - that most of my writting here .. IS - actually true.

I H8 embelissments - as that detrcts FROM finding the INNOVATION ... embelissments COVER & hide things... that I have always sought to "reveal... WHY th 4k (oops i swore) Why would I want to embelish things...? BUT - just as honsetly ... why would I WANT - to acceed to some COVER_UP "commonsense rule? prinxipal - call it what you will - of NOT writting an autopbiography ... ON THE SUBJECT - of

audio

Neither JUST one ch - MONO...?

NOR - of the so_called "NORM" - of two ? Stereo

BUT .. of !

W8 4 1T...>

THREE ... TRIPELLO

As even YOU know - inside your own "knowledges" that

ONE = MONO = a pin point (ONE PLANE) & thus - it will always equal ? 1-D

A pin point - has NO area, (ONLY two PLANES CAN GIVE area) & thus - TWO will always just give ? 2-D

It has NO SIZE a_n_d "THUS" h_a_s "NO" v_o_l_u_m_e = 3-D (only THREE being - planes, points or angles... can GIVE volume)

Only THREE points of reference - can GIVE the minimum number of "targets"

To eallow for the representation of VOLUME - in 3-D

Sure - by using TWO chs of stereo... SOME can & do claim that ONLY two exist

(such as Dol.. oops I'm suposedly not allowed to NAME that little RAY of audio knowledge?)

But - MY CREATOR .. allowed me - to "discover" an old Philips VALVE AMPLIFIED reeL to reel 3/8 tape 2ch stereo valve portable 4way - (forwards & reverse) MAGNETIC TAPE RECORDER/player - in the local rubbish DUMP ... when I was scavenging for "anything" that I could convert into any number of other weird contraptions - which I often "tried_to" & sometimes MADE - in my early youth...

It was as I was "CLEANING one of the "valves" in an attempt to "get it going" (better) ? As I thought - OK - it still goes .. and I used it for several years - until I was venturesome enouggh AT 12yrs of age... to "venture inside the works (opened the casings & rummaged insied the wiring) ... before I accidentally DROPPED and "broke the silly we glass valve"

Oops?

BUT - all was NOT lost... DAVID READ - was by that time - just starting to make" simple mono electronic amp KIT's - 9v DC battery powered mind... so? I thought - as all inventive 12yr olds SHOULD... that I'd simply RIP OUT all valve associated wit=rings... and toss these NEW electronic thingies IN...

HAHAHA - yes - you too can smile.

I not onl;y RIPPED out all valve gear & wiring..

I DID NOT BOTHER WRITTING DOWN - OR LABELING TERMINATIONS.

Thus - on a dual directional stereo 2ch tape recorder - with a quad track HEAD and TWO independant ERASURE HEADS - on either side...

ALL I had... afterwards, was these two wee flimsy "electronic" OPEN PLAN ... formic plates... with rough SOLDERED? items on them - and just six wires on each KITSET (& I do mean ROUGH - I used a plumbers ONE INCH HEAD "petrol_fired" soldering torch - for soldering the "tiny" terminals & "things" ... probably cooking most of the electronics along the way - which is why I eventually had to "make" a third to replace a dud that hadn't worked eh?)

ANYWAY.

I had a problem - SO? I solved it - my COMMON SENSE WAY...

I simply used the old transformer which "luckily" I had left inside this contraption - and "somehow - got ONE kitset working.. then - having USED two of the wires +&- 9v DC input power wires... ALL that I had left - were two wires for signal input & two for speaker output? Ok - these inputs - are easy.. they just go to the microphone sockets . as these auto linked - BACK to the "player head ... when PLAY MODE was selected - so? where do these wires terminate there? .. DONE

Now? I have two NEW wires - from THE input socket - instead of the INPUT wires on the KIT AMP... sweet

Ok - how come - I only have TWO wires left... "outputting" from on the amp AND YET? The main head has eight pins (AND an earth on it) ... and BOTH those wee (erasure) heads have two as well ...? Um? OK .. POWER ON (yes even back the - I was an electrician - my way) .. and YAP - oops no...? OK - so? OK - I got my sisters wee portable National I think it was - LPm & 45rpm palyer going... & secretly borrowed one of her records to USE as a signal injector

Wow - how was I to know - THAT MY CREATOR - had ensured that the ONLY "record" I chose - contained the SONG which later PROVED TO BE - just a ONE_OFF

(The Holly Wood Argyles - Alley Oop)

Anyways - I hot soldered .. my two output wires AND THE TWO INPUT WIRES ... across any number of "possible" applications ... on that MAIN HEAD - as well as I "many" (many) times ... simply RAN a recording/play function - either way Oh - & thus past the monitors (oh yes - it hAD those extra functions too - a tiny wee head each side o the main - also with terminals.. i never used them & had forgotten about them until now) Hey - I had a WHOLE BOX of differrent sized REELS to choose from - & I didn't KNOW if they were used or new .. i just WANTED to have something to "check" to see- if I had actually RECORDED anything... the only trouble being ... I COULDN'T CHECK - using my "unterminated machine ... i had to go to my friends house - and we'd "listen" to my resluts .. often just MASSIVE POWER BUZZINGS - as I zapped across heads - with a NEW electric soldering iron - i had bought after making the first kit (that didn't work)

PLUS ... i ALSO (again - why does that not surprise me) DID NOT actually "write down any NOTES - as to where on the tape - the reaording was made - for WHICH PINS - on the head - that I'd connected... SEE - Innovative Inventor - I may be - (but even then - writting "readiable" quick notes - elluded me - when I was young as well)

So? Needless to state - the actual TASK of "getting the OLD Philips 9made in Holland) Dual Directional 2ch 4head recorder working - was an eventual NO_GO

BUT ... The TAPES...? The tapes were a diffeent story..

YOU SEE - I never DID erase the previous content - ever... SO?

Not only did I have the original "songs" and stuff PLAYABLE - I also had my "alternative" wirings ... across the heads.. INJECTING - Alley opps .. into some very weird places

Some of these - as strange as it MAY now appear - STILL make perfect COMMON SENSE - to me.

See.

One song - playing forwards - in stereo ... WITH ONE - accidentally wired HEADWORKS - "recording" as the tape was "running" (in reverse record mode) ... MEANT - THREE SONGS

3songs? YEP - 3

I got the orinal song forwards

I got MY one accidental Alley ooops tack - in REVERSE

AND - I got a new crossover harmonc (3RD) SONG TUNE - even sometimes with almost recognisible words - PLAYING BETWEEN THESE TWO ACTUAL SONGS.

THEN - when i realised that - I simply tossed the Philips away - AND spent the rest of my life ... FINDING all the ways - to GET my "new" TRIPELLO 3D "effects" out of my old sterophonic Majestic two in one - it had 4bands of SW - one of LW - one of AM & a Gerrad 16/33/45 & 78 record player AND two huge stereo outputs

2chs ... from which I created (revealed) THREE

As I simplty NOW had a volumetric container - i simply set about discovering ... HOW MANY triangulation points - I could easily reaveal - inside those tow MAIN "pre-recordined" song chs - of my LP's & 78's & 45's (as I never did find any 16rpm records)

BUT - I can tell you this ...

IN 1965 - I strongly believe - that I waas the first human on this earth - whom ever HEARD & played SIX channel 3D surround sound - from my sisters Alley Oop record (or from ALL others as well - as my friends OFTEN then came around to PLAY THERE STUFF - in surround

(well - maybe NOT friends? But neighbours kids - "actually" - who I had been forced to let into a little part of my experiments - as i'd used or abused - their own parents equipment - in some manner)

Anyway.. it did NOT take me too long - to "feed" a SUMATION of all those SIX - into a blender I'd made - TO GET THE SUMMATION RESULT - (true) CENTRE OF ROOM - seventh ch

Plus .. it doesn't take a genius to "calculate" that running a MONO - (easy NOW with new PC pack - 2.1 multi media "sets") ... that by MONO'ing - between adjacent "chs - of tose SIX ... can I then get the mono INTERMEDIATES (I don't call them subs - as I MONO the stero outputs - and get full frequency INTERMEDIATE CHS)

Thus.. SIX mains - and ONE (centre) SUMMATION - plus SIX extra INTERMEDIARIES ... very quickly GOT this 12yr old going on 56 (as I am now) Kiwi Lad - the worlds ONLY fully functional 13 ch - PLUS 13 SUB WOOFERED system - of full total surround sound - EVER

And- it "plays all existing - pre-recorded - LIVE - Open air "FM stereo broadcasts - and even DIRECT PLAYS - from the outputs - via a 2ch amp - (main) as someone sits & LIVE plays a Yamaha or similar electronic organ.

Now .. WHY should I USE - falsly claimed COMMON SENSE ? to hide MY CREATORS - infinite wisdom - of ALL aspects of the ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM - from your minds - until I am threethousand yrs dead?

Cheers.

(and I am remembering - SIGN - but not with the silly one - I put earlier - pf K... C... of NZ(no I didn't put DOTS "..." but I actually wrote all the letters "earlier" - before i became a registerwed used - to hide my IP? silly i know - but my IP - is more valuable to me - thatn my actual NAME ??? see - AGAIN - COMMON_SENSE_VALUES - for you & me "differ" - see)

so ... I'll sign the wiki way - 4u - ok?

(but before i go - please - by all means - VALIDATE Before you consider deleting - these ... ? MY WORDS

google is a great thing.

3D-TRIPELLO QUIX - NZ QUIX4U "analogue deplexer-decoder 325.13 ch surround sound" "64.77 million analogue surround sound channels - from RAW 2ch stereo"

Or a trillion "other" keywords - across (your) WEB

cheers

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Subject/headline preview: (→Common Sense ? What happens if it's (always) been WRONG ?: new section) The reason I ask this ... is three fold (see I am 3rd gender human too - XXY and cannot even register my OWN gender here in my preferences without telling a lie - I'm neither male XY nor Female XX - but half & half best of both - as an I = Intersex XXY)

1/- Common Sense - to me - is NOT always common to "me", (as per above), and I have always thought - no, not outside the inner circle .. nor just - outside the square ... I have known the need to seek further than that & that there must have been a brilliant reason - before even time itself began - for the meaning of:-

EVERYTHING OCCURS IN THREE

Thus:- I have always had a different "inner_sense" of common sense - to everyone else around me (in other words ... I haven't simply accepted the staus quo - nor simply blindly gone forth - accepting world wide trends - to play follow the leader - down the audio principles pathways - set forth by those around the - Mono versus Stereo "fraternity" (basically just a TWO WAY law? Being an either 1 or 2 principle of either / or .. and never the THRIRD shall we consider?)

The main reason that I have never followed generally acceppted princpals of Common Sense - is that I have always tended to "live" as a hermit - thus to me - ONLY my sense - has been common - to me.. (make sense?) no?) ....? Anyway's ... I read somewhere here... earlier .. that in order for me to justify a long proven theorum which I have spent a significant proportion of my entire existance doing - my own way (as being mainly a hermit, I have done)... I must do some fast talking (or long winded talkspeak - in my terms) .... to show those of worldly accepted NORMS of common sense - that "my" common sense is actually quite different (that it isn't just an autobiography as such - but a fairly good reason) - and that in the last three or so years - I have basically NOW come out of my personal shell (cave) so to speak - to advise the rest of the world - hey? Actually - the either OR camp way of thinking "common Sense" isn't actually - nor factually correct...

(I think this is still part of 1/- above but perhaps my "explanation" needs shortening? so?

2/- I am able to "prove" absolutely positively - not just with SOUND "hearing" - nor even just with LIGHT - seeing .. but with POWER - "electricaal" wiring schematics (written materials, personally drawn graphics & even cellphone videos & still photos slideshows - where I have co-joined LIGHT & SOUND "together" along with hand drawn & computor assisted graphics - via my XP's "paint" program) ... and not only do I have litteraly a hundred such videos floating OUT THERE - already in the FREELY accessible public domains o youtube & Xanga ... but I have litterally flooded the entire web - with my knowledges - in a little over three years... & even THAT is something easily verifiable even to "wikipedians" ... by simply googling my personally coined phrase of Quick to Fix ... or QUIX - which I did also use to explain a Quick - to Affix interpretaion of application - for my Internationally held Patents (3 of them) on a revolutionary Gate Hinge Innovation - also verifyable via (1998) NZ Pat 330 552, (1999) Aust Pat 754 678, & via the (1999) "Swiss" WPO - PCT/NZ99/00066 pat appl that covered me for over 90 countries (& thus world wide...?)

So? Common Sense - to me - isn't "actually" all that COMMON !

Um ... where was I?

Oh- yes... (and even though I did "hold" those 3 Patents - they were takien with so-called Professional advice of "Common Sense" - to which I didn't even hold a candle towards)

So... I actually DO NOT HOLD - with the so-called COMMON belief - that HUMANS have any "copyright" upon anything (neither HEARD nor SEEN) - after they publically expose them - into the area of public knowledge (& perceptions) nor do I believe they have the COPYRIGHT upon any "principlal" that was CREATED - by our own OMNIPOTENT Creator/s (and yes - I do think 3 are part of the "main_one" - as logic has always shown me - that is the case) ... away back - EVEN BEFORE TIME BEGAN....

As I believe it was the ALMIGHTY CREATOR "ENTITY" (of all 3-in-1) - whom actually "holds all rights - to all so-called COPY & DUPLICATION "rights" ... AND that "he/she" AND "IT" (yes ... not a COMMON SENSE THOUGHT - BUT A GENUINE BELIEF ... OF THE ACTUAL EXISTANCE - OF A TRUE 3-in-1)

Thus.. it is with MY common sense - that anything I can hear, see, touch, experience AND "know" thus - because it was originally CREATED - by my "creator" - through whomever 7 however my CREATOR - was wanting to "advise_me" of it's existance ... then becomes - to me - MY right - to do with - however I please (see)

As MY right of "choice" ... "ISN'T MINE"

(See) - As "being_free" to do it MY WAY ... or MY COMMON SENSE way ... or The ONLY WAY ?

Actually will always only ever be ... THE ONE WAY = "all" 3 paths lead to the "same" door - (of MY CREATORS "big_plan")

- )

Thus.... copyright to me - DOES NOT EXIST - if something has become PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE The only exeption is this... EXACT DUPLICATION of a "thing" or physically product ... can be attributed in PROFIT 9monetary means) .... for those fully proven - to be AN EXACT COPY.

(and yes - I do believe we were GIVEN the right to "profit" by our own "work" - where that notes - that the WORK - being that which WE - DID manually "MAKE" ... is the only thing we can "CLAIM" as being COPIED)

BUT ... here's where MY thought (of common sense) "differs" from that of the rest of the world...!!!!

I do not HOLD - with the general blief ... that something - released into the "PUBLIC_ DOMAIN" & especially if the WORK has been SOLD to the recipient .. that ANY FUTURE WORK - "created' by the BUYER - by that "work" - IF .... it it has HAD the BUYERS "own input ADDED to that ... can anything - ever be "WRONGFULLY CLAIMED ... as a copy (because it can be actually "fully_proven" - that the original seller - could NOT POSSIBLY had prior RIGHT to that added content - (added by the buyer)

THIS IS EVEN A WORLD WIDE ACCEPTED PRINCIPAL IN ALL OTHER FIELDS OF BARTER

If a manufacturer "buys" articles .. from suppliers... AND THEN MELDS THOSE ARTICLES... into their "own" final (or pre-assembled) PART ... the NEW RIGHT - of copyright ... goes to the MANUFACTURER - of that "result"

No (component) supplier can then "retract_back" and CLAIM - full and total COPYRIGHT - to the NEW WORK ... simply because some minor or even a major component - was theirs "ORIGINALLY"

(and sorry if my "up" - & "DPWN" caps locking ... offends anyone - !!!

BUT I consider that NOT to be actually shouting ^?^ AS YOU SO COMMONLY CALL THIS - being with caps_lock "up & downing" - as THAT is just my OWN PERSONAL WAY OF COMMUNICATING VIA TYPE - as it is ALSO an extentsion of my "common_sense" way - of strongly 'emphasising' things... just as is my prolific usage of ALL THINGS - being my HANDS - & eyes, arms, ears, nos,e feet & anything else that DOES the waggles & wiggles such as eyebrows, smiles & brow_furrows ... DO ... when I AM SPEAKING - face to face with others... ??? - And thus I do "not" consider that AS shouting...

Sorry - just had to get THAT in there eh?

I do - consider shouting as the "other" method of caps lock ..

AND HERE IT IS... (JUST FOR A DEMONSTRATION - OK) THE PERMANENT USEAGE - OF CAPS LOCK ...............

(that is what I consiedr as SHoutINg ... noT the Up A7 and way ...that sometimes even just occures ...becaudse - I have HUGE THUMBS AND FINGERS - and "no" actual white paint - on nost of these BALCK keys any wore... as 56, 000 pages of "keyword hits via google - muat TELL you by now - that Iv'v alwo (rats/...!!! lost my memory of key positions for a mooent there)

Oh - yes ... 56, 000 pages of hits ... with 100 hit results PER PAGE ... of all of my yabberings & typings - over the last 3 - 4 yrs... have almost WORN away the keys ... let alone that silly wee bit of white paint - that denoted WHICH letter or "key" i'v hit... AND because I HAVE to watch where my fingers GO on the blackend keys ... I do not ever get the chanec - to actually WATCH the screen - >

As isd ? oops I was "trying" 2B doing - NOW.

I also somtimes slip - n2 txt mode wh3n typing as 1 just "4gt that i am NOT trying to keep UP w1th my son - when he rapid fires txts 2me... C? Thus - all over the internet - PEOPLE keep trying to TELL ME - that I cannot rit... tht I dnt evn hv UGNLISH as my ntaive lnguaage ... (without absolutely MISSUNDERSTANDING - that I "aslo" have DSS.. w8 ... d y s l e x i a ...adn often dont even gt the LETTERS - n the ryt odrer ...

I 8nt stpiud ... I'm just to fast at hitting the wrong black key - FRIST.

So? Common Sense .. does NOT apply -to me. OK - I 8nt COMMON.

My CREATOR - made me uneek, Uneq ? (or:- U N I Q U E --- as you would spell that thing)

& 3/-

I finally remember ...

SEE - even "this" old (kiwi - human) ELEPHANT rwmembers if he types long enough...

quote

You'll need to do some pretty fast talking to get away with not adhering to the consensus within policy pages, though this is not impossible, if you somehow happen to know something that many years of collective wisdom hasn't discovered yet

un-quote

Ah - yes... I do NOT also hold with the so-called COMMON "collective" wisdom - of the r4est of the world... THAT "truth MUST ONLY EVER BE TOLD .. after the discoverer of that truth

IS DEAD _ BURIED _ AND ALMOST TOO LONG FORGOTTEN

I stronly believe - that when someone has "proven" beyond a shadow of a doubt - to themselves... and the FEW poeple around hem - that they have CONSIDERED as being worldly wise enough - to actually KNOW the difference - (between the old truths of common knowledge - and the NEW TRUTH - this person can PROVE to have discoverd...)

THEN ... why then WAIT - until hundreds of years have past ... and the "NEW truth - is now almost a forgotten MUST HAVE?

Before being able to "let" the world konw ... THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE..

It's almost impossibly easy to get..

AND IT WORKS.

AND often A HELLOFALOTBETTER ... than (so-called?) ? MASSIVELY AVAILABLE _COMMONLY ACCEPTED PRACTICES.

Not... when the GRAMMAPHONE (mono) Was replaced with TWO CH stereo ... did the WORLD have to wait a thousand years ... before being told? NO... the WORLD grabbed this as soon as it became KNOWN

WHY? Because OUR CREATOR ... doesn't JUST set one person - the TASK ... of "revealing" a truth.

(Note:- Not of discovering "some_THING_new" or - of creating out of "thin_air" - NOR for the first time? - But of finally "unvieling" & revealing - AN OLD PRINCIPAL OR A FULLY WORKING TECHNIQUE & APPLICATION - THAT OUR CREATOR CREATED MIILLIONS OF EONS AGO ...Ok?)

Oh no - OUR CREATOR has a plan - and THAT PLAN - invariably HAVING all three "choices" of techniques.. being IMPLANTED into human beings MINDS - ryt a-X the globe... EVERYWHERE - like grains of WHEAT scattered across the whole feild...

AS even our OMNIPOTENT CREATOR KNOWS ... just simply "planting" one seed - WILL NOT CREATE A HARVEST - of any worth.

This is why ... I now toss "thi"s - )yes lengthy explanation( ... into your melting pot.

COMMON SENSE? What happens IF - IF it is wrong.

Can I not "somehow - somewhere ... CREATE a "living" autobiography (verifiable by me) ... and BY VIDEOS & PHOTOS & SELF DRAWN PTAPHICS & PICTURES... without having to WAIT - until ALL this knowledge in my HEAD - DIES WHEN I DIE?

Why not "get it OUT - into the public domain - IN THE BEST WAY - until now - THAT MY CREATOR HAS GIVEN ME - this well worn unreadable keypad & the internet...?

As - VERIFIABLE STUFF ... is already everywhere ? splattered already - far & wide - which - when PEOPLE VIEW & HEAR & feel & touch smell taste & ? (hell I don't know how they "interact" with their Computor monitors) ...? They can immediately KNOW - that most of my writting here .. IS - actually true.

I H8 embelissments - as that detrcts FROM finding the INNOVATION ... embelissments COVER & hide things... that I have always sought to "reveal... WHY th 4k (oops i swore) Why would I want to embelish things...? BUT - just as honsetly ... why would I WANT - to acceed to some COVER_UP "commonsense rule? prinxipal - call it what you will - of NOT writting an autopbiography ... ON THE SUBJECT - of

audio

Neither JUST one ch - MONO...?

NOR - of the so_called "NORM" - of two ? 

Stereo

BUT .. of !

W8 4 1T...>

THREE ... TRIPELLO

As even YOU know - inside your own "knowledges" that

ONE = MONO = a pin point (ONE PLANE) & thus - it will always equal ? 1-D

A pin point - has NO area, (ONLY two PLANES CAN GIVE area) & thus - TWO will always just give ? 2-D

It has NO SIZE a_n_d "THUS" h_a_s "NO" v_o_l_u_m_e = 3-D (only THREE being - planes, points or angles... can GIVE volume)

Only THREE points of reference - can GIVE the minimum number of "targets"

To eallow for the representation of VOLUME - in 3-D

Sure - by using TWO chs of stereo... SOME can & do claim that ONLY two exist

(such as Dol.. oops I'm suposedly not allowed to NAME that little RAY of audio knowledge?)

But - MY CREATOR .. allowed me - to "discover" an old Philips VALVE AMPLIFIED reeL to reel 3/8 tape 2ch stereo valve portable 4way - (forwards & reverse) MAGNETIC TAPE RECORDER/player - in the local rubbish DUMP ... when I was scavenging for "anything" that I could convert into any number of other weird contraptions - which I often "tried_to" & sometimes MADE - in my early youth...

It was as I was "CLEANING one of the "valves" in an attempt to "get it going" (better) ? As I thought - OK - it still goes .. and I used it for several years - until I was venturesome enouggh AT 12yrs of age... to "venture inside the works (opened the casings & rummaged insied the wiring) ... before I accidentally DROPPED and "broke the silly we glass valve"

Oops?

BUT - all was NOT lost... DAVID READ - was by that time - just starting to make" simple mono electronic amp KIT's - 9v DC battery powered mind... so? I thought - as all inventive 12yr olds SHOULD... that I'd simply RIP OUT all valve associated wit=rings... and toss these NEW electronic thingies IN...

HAHAHA - yes - you too can smile.

I not onl;y RIPPED out all valve gear & wiring..

I DID NOT BOTHER WRITTING DOWN - OR LABELING TERMINATIONS.

Thus - on a dual directional stereo 2ch tape recorder - with a quad track HEAD and TWO independant ERASURE HEADS - on either side...

ALL I had... afterwards, was these two wee flimsy "electronic" OPEN PLAN ... formic plates... with rough SOLDERED? items on them - and just six wires on each KITSET (& I do mean ROUGH - I used a plumbers ONE INCH HEAD "petrol_fired" soldering torch - for soldering the "tiny" terminals & "things" ... probably cooking most of the electronics along the way - which is why I eventually had to "make" a third to replace a dud that hadn't worked eh?)

ANYWAY.

I had a problem - SO? I solved it - my COMMON SENSE WAY...

I simply used the old transformer which "luckily" I had left inside this contraption - and "somehow" I got ONE kitset working.. then - having USED two of the wires +&- 9v DC input power wires... ALL that I had left - were two wires for signal input & two for speaker output? Ok - these inputs - are easy.. they just go to the microphone sockets . as these auto linked - BACK to the "player head ... when PLAY MODE was selected - so? where do these wires terminate there? .. DONE Now? I have two NEW wires - from THE input socket - instead of the INPUT wires on the KIT AMP... sweet Ok - how come - I only have TWO wires left... "outputting" from on the amp AND YET? The main head has eight pins (AND an earth on it) ... and BOTH those wee (erasure) heads have two as well ...? Um? OK .. POWER ON (yes even back the - I was an electrician - my way) .. and YAP - oops no...? OK - so? OK - I got my sisters wee portable National I think it was - LPm & 45rpm palyer going... & secretly borrowed one of her records to USE as a signal injector Wow - how was I to know - THAT MY CREATOR - had ensured that the ONLY "record" I chose - contained the SONG which later PROVED TO BE - just a ONE_OFF (The Holly Wood Argyles - Alley Oop) Anyways - I hot soldered .. my two output wires AND THE TWO INPUT WIRES ... across any number of "possible" applications ... on that MAIN HEAD - as well as I "many" (many) times ... simply RAN a recording/play function - either way Oh - & thus past the monitors (oh yes - it hAD those extra functions too - a tiny wee head each side o the main - also with terminals.. i never used them & had forgotten about them until now) Hey - I had a WHOLE BOX of differrent sized REELS to choose from - & I didn't KNOW if they were used or new .. i just WANTED to have something to "check" to see- if I had actually RECORDED anything... the only trouble being ... I COULDN'T CHECK - using my "unterminated machine ... i had to go to my friends house - and we'd "listen" to my resluts .. often just MASSIVE POWER BUZZINGS - as I zapped across heads - with a NEW electric soldering iron - i had bought after making the first kit (that didn't work) PLUS ... i ALSO (again - why does that not surprise me) DID NOT actually "write down any NOTES - as to where on the tape - the reaording was made - for WHICH PINS - on the head - that I'd connected... SEE - Innovative Inventor - I may be - (but even then - writting "readiable" quick notes - elluded me - when I was young as well) So? Needless to state - the actual TASK of "getting the OLD Philips 9made in Holland) Dual Directional 2ch 4head recorder working - was an eventual NO_GO BUT ... The TAPES...? The tapes were a diffeent story.. YOU SEE - I never DID erase the previous content - ever... SO? Not only did I have the original "songs" and stuff PLAYABLE - I also had my "alternative" wirings ... across the heads.. INJECTING - Alley opps .. into some very weird places Some of these - as strange as it MAY now appear - STILL make perfect COMMON SENSE - to me. See. One song - playing forwards - in stereo ... WITH ONE - accidentally wired HEADWORKS - "recording" as the tape was "running" (in reverse record mode) ... MEANT - THREE SONGS 3songs? YEP - 3 I got the orinal song forwards I got MY one accidental Alley ooops tack - in REVERSE AND - I got a new crossover harmonc (3RD) SONG TUNE - even sometimes with almost recognisible words - PLAYING BETWEEN THESE TWO ACTUAL SONGS. THEN - when i realised that - I simply tossed the Philips away - AND spent the rest of my life ... FINDING all the ways - to GET my "new" TRIPELLO 3D "effects" out of my old sterophonic Majestic two in one - it had 4bands of SW - one of LW - one of AM & a Gerrad 16/33/45 & 78 record player AND two huge stereo outputs 2chs ... from which I created (revealed) THREE As I simplty NOW had a volumetric container - i simply set about discovering ... HOW MANY triangulation points - I could easily reaveal - inside those tow MAIN "pre-recordined" song chs - of my LP's & 78's & 45's (as I never did find any 16rpm records) BUT - I can tell you this ... IN 1965 - I strongly believe - that I waas the first human on this earth - whom ever HEARD & played SIX channel 3D surround sound - from my sisters Alley Oop record (or from ALL others as well - as my friends OFTEN then came around to PLAY THERE STUFF - in surround (well - maybe NOT friends? But neighbours kids - "actually" - who I had been forced to let into a little part of my experiments - as i'd used or abused - their own parents equipment - in some manner) Anyway.. it did NOT take me too long - to "feed" a SUMATION of all those SIX - into a blender I'd made - TO GET THE SUMMATION RESULT - (true) CENTRE OF ROOM - seventh ch Plus .. it doesn't take a genius to "calculate" that running a MONO - (easy NOW with new PC pack - 2.1 multi media "sets") ... that by MONO'ing - between adjacent "chs - of tose SIX ... can I then get the mono INTERMEDIATES (I don't call them subs - as I MONO the stero outputs - and get full frequency INTERMEDIATE CHS) Thus.. SIX mains - and ONE (centre) SUMMATION - plus SIX extra INTERMEDIARIES ... very quickly GOT this 12yr old going on 56 (as I am now) Kiwi Lad - the worlds ONLY fully functional 13 ch - PLUS 13 SUB WOOFERED system - of full total surround sound - EVER And- it "plays all existing - pre-recorded - LIVE - Open air "FM stereo broadcasts - and even DIRECT PLAYS - from the outputs - via a 2ch amp - (main) as someone sits & LIVE plays a Yamaha or similar electronic organ. Now .. WHY should I USE - falsly claimed COMMON SENSE ? to hide MY CREATORS - infinite wisdom - of ALL aspects of the ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM - from your minds - until I am threethousand yrs dead? Cheers. (and I am remembering - SIGN - but not with the silly one - I put earlier - pf K... C... of NZ(no I didn't put DOTS "..." but I actually wrote all the letters "earlier" - before i became a registerwed used - to hide my IP? silly i know - but my IP - is more valuable to me - thatn my actual NAME ??? see - AGAIN - COMMON_SENSE_VALUES - for you & me "differ" - see) so ... I'll sign the wiki way - 4u - ok? (but before i go - please - by all means - VALIDATE Before you consider deleting - these ... ? MY WORDS google is a great thing. 3D-TRIPELLO QUIX - NZ QUIX4U "analogue deplexer-decoder 325.13 ch surround sound" "64.77 million analogue surround sound channels - from RAW 2ch stereo" Or a trillion "other" keywords - across (your) WEB cheers Roxburgh NZ (talk) 11:27, 9 May 2010 (UTC) Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted. Encyclopedic content must be verifiable. You irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL. You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license. 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WOOHOO "major" discovery ... (of) a not so "common" - COMMON SENSE thing...

Roxburgh NZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

(Or? At least it "is" - on my OWN insignificantly small "scene" - inside the huge world of YOUR reality ...?

I simply "went" into the edit function - on the actual PAGE - where I saw the link_through" and "grabbed" the ONE that I'd used - to actually go "through" - some days ago ...)

please humbly accept my opologies ... for doing IT - this way... QUOTE

(excerpt from the wiki PAGE - of ... Common Sense - "itself")

Wikipedia has many rules. Instead of following every rule, it is acceptable to use common sense as you go about editing.

UN-QUOTE

Wahoo - & I STILL didn't even understand HOW - that works ? - but I'm certain - THIS WORKS (NOW)

Roxburgh NZ (talk) 04:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANOTHER -- & the last for now Ok... cheers Roxburgh NZ (talk) 04:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

IMPORTANT SPECIAL RE_EDIT (done) BY AUTHOR OF PAGE Roxburgh NZ (talk) 04:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

(found on a thing about my limited concerns - for YOUR way of understanding non-copy so-called COPIED? copyrights (& or wrongs or not) buts thats a whole different train of thought (and... a "big" ... big argument scenario - & so - 4-all concerned 4-now It'd be better - 2-simply ignore & 4-get - that - Ok?)

So? This is a full page (basic) MAIN PAGE "Cut & Paste" (from wikipedias "own" sdrawkcaB_thgirypoC "PAGE" - yes - wriiten backwards here too)

((( Ok? I don't know if it'll work ... but hey - I ain't willing to risk "deleting" the original "pages" extensive mass of TEMPLATES - by entering into those darks depths of IT'S own "edit" page?)))

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See - the (FULL) basic MAIN WEBPAGE "screenshot thing style" METHOD - (CUT & PASTE) - is - by_far - the 4-real ? (really) easy WAY for an (old_kiwi) ignoramus (like_me) ? to "grab" them ALL - (like this) in one HUGE hit? Chhers - ?

And thus - says (MY_ALL) - all - your way

Roxburgh NZ (talk) 04:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

(I am - yes? verifiably - "nuts")

As - I am - The K_RAY_Z - "kiwi" ...see...

http://www.youtube.com/user/QUIX4U

Vid 0200 - ONE VID (this K_RAY_Z "Kiwi" got wrong info onto ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csE7_ALKgZo

And I KNOWS - u will agree - when UC ..."see"...

THE BIG PINK BUTTON - (Of_My) - Wonky Honky - "snozzle" = snoozer (snout) NOSE 96 views 3 months ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKSHs_Gi4Wo

OF (me) see...

http://www.youtube.com/user/QUIX4U

I AM (true), a "living" (false or not), , , ? ? ? Paradox (total confusion)

!!!! Roxburgh NZ (talk) 04:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)