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I think the sentence in the plot that currently reads "Quagmire becomes frustrated when conversation turns to Ida's surgery and new lifestyle and storms out." should change to "When conversation turns to Ida's surgery and new lifestyle Quagmire leaves in frustration."
I think the sentences in the plot that currently reads "Quagmire becomes frustrated when conversation turns to Ida's surgery and new lifestyle and storms out. At the Quagmire's home, Quagmire tells his father that he isn't sure he can deal with her new body. Saddened, Ida leaves Quagmire's home." should change to "When conversation turns to Ida's surgery and new lifestyle Quagmire leaves in frustration. Later at his home he tells Ida he is not sure he can deal with her transition. Saddened, she leaves."

In the same section we have "At the Quagmire's home, Quagmire tells his father that he isn't sure he can deal with her new body. Saddened, Ida leaves Quagmire's home." Please update to "He later tells Ida he is not sure he can deal with her transition. Saddened, Ida leaves."

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Why isn't there a photo of Ida?

Shouldn't the photo be of her? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.22.6 (talk) 16:16, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The image was of Quagmire and Ida. Blame your uncleared cache. Gage (talk) 15:18, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Plot summary

Look. I get that you think your writing is God's Gift to Family Guy, but the plot summary is too long, too detailed, over-written and grammatically nightmarish. Comparing the first sentences of the two versions: Yours - "Deciding to visit Quagmire at his home, Joe and Peter are quickly introduced to Quagmire's father, Lieutenant Commander Dan Quagmire." Mine - "Quagmire introduces Joe and Peter to his father, Lieutenant Commander Dan Quagmire." How is the reader's understanding of the episode improved by the inclusion of the phrase "Deciding to visit Quagmire at his home"? What from the primary source tells us they were introduced "quickly"? How is the passive voice "are introduced" stronger than "introduces"?

Another example: Yours - "Meanwhile Brian announces that he will be leaving for a few days to attend a seminar in New Haven about creating a web series. Returning home to Quahog unaware of all that had transpired, Brian stops at a hotel bar on the way home. While there, he encounters Quagmire's father, Ida, and the two bond and retire to Ida's room for a sexual affair." Mine - "Brian, who has been in New Haven for a few days to attend a seminar on creating a web series, is unaware of what has transpired. Brian stops at a hotel bar on the way home where he encounters Ida. They bond and retire to Ida's room for sex." Mine conveys the exact same information cleanly and concisely, without unnecessary words.

Yours is loaded with malformed constructions like "Worried as the operation is taking place, the surgery is announced to be a success..." which as written means that the surgery is worried, and "Inviting Quagmire and his "new friend", now named Ida, to dinner later that night, Peter soon begins asking her about the surgery." which as written means that Peter begins asking questions as he's inviting Ida to dinner, which is factually wrong, and "Deciding to confront him back at the house, Ida and Quagmire discuss..." which could be read as Ida and Quagmire confronting a third person. It's just sloppy and over-written.

You clearly have some serious ownership issues with this article, as evidenced by your rude comment in your edit summary ("I'll just replace it again months down the road when I'm still working on this article, and you've gone back to stacking blocks"). I suggest you take a step back and not act like you're the final decision-maker for the article. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Probably a bad idea to have added the LGBT Studies banner.. Gage (talk) 15:50, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why, because you don't want another project or other editors infringing on your territory? Newsflash, sweet cheeks, this is "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit" and there is no restriction on non-FG project members editing it. Clearly this article falls under the purview of the LGBT project since it is obviously an article of interest to that project. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 16:15, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow I had no idea. Gage (talk) 16:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
About much of anything, it seems. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 16:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
WP:PERSONAL. Gage (talk) 19:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Both of you are acting territorial and should know better. Gage, some of the same words kept popping up so you may take Cows' point to heart that the writing could be improved. Cow, you're edit-warring as well and being an ass about it=unhelpful. Plus you're not always right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.38.211 (talk) 00:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

update please

I think the sentences in the plot that currently reads "Quagmire becomes frustrated when conversation turns to Ida's surgery and new lifestyle and storms out. At the Quagmire's home, Quagmire tells his father that he isn't sure he can deal with her new body. Saddened, Ida leaves Quagmire's home." should change to "When conversation turns to Ida's surgery and new lifestyle Quagmire leaves in frustration. Later at his home he tells Ida he is not sure he can deal with her transition. Saddened, she leaves."