Talk:Equivalent Exchange

Hellos. I'm someone that browses around Wikipedia on a regular, daily, basis and decided to help out on the article. Perhaps some more (general) examples of equivalent exchange used in FMA would be good for here as well. I forgot my username tag stuff --Xavier Valentine 02:59, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

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Someone help and improve here! I'd like a little critique from someone who has seen the series more repeatedly (I've only seen Fullmetal Alchemist once completely through). --Xavier Valentine 23:21, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

It's fictional, right?

So I reworded the beginning to be more like that. In addition, are we sure it's "Equivalent Exchange"? And I moved the quote to the bottom. — Ambush Commander^(Talk) 16:28, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Laws of Thermodynamics and Laws of Alchemy

Could it be considered that the second law of thermodynamics could be the equivalent to the unstated second law of alchemy? The first law of alchemy can already be considered similar to the first law of thermodynamics, or Conservation of Mass/Energy. --Xavier Valentine 22:58, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Other Meanings

I added the Other Meanings heading to make some room for other paragraphs about E2 that mean something as well other than Alchemy. Equivalent Exchange doesn't always have to relate to only alchemy. It's also the way life works. One cannot get anything such as money without sacrificing something in return, such as a job or assignment, meaning that one has to work for something to get something.

Other meanings? Perhaps, it'd be great to also find other usages of the term E2 outside alchemy and outside Fullmetal Alchemist. The term however has a heavy connectiong to the FMA Anime; perhaps some additional quotation and ideas could be attached to it. However, should it really broaden out further? --Xavier Valentine 04:42, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Any suggestions for the "other meanings?" Ideas such as a google search for E2 minus "Alchemy" and "Alchemist"? For instance, a writing about theories of law comes up: http://www.marxists.org/archive/pashukanis/1924/law/ch07.htm Of course, that is just an example, but additional quotations and term quoted from those outside the anime could work for the Other Meanings section. --Xavier Valentine 05:21:02, 2005-07-27 (UTC)

A lot of interpretation here...

Can we stick with the facts and not original research? — Ambush Commander^(Talk) 16:51, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

FMA Equivalent Exchange Debunk

I just added that the concept of EE is actually debunked in the anime series to the Final Conclusions section. I thought it would be something important to note for readers. I had to edit it twice because there's an unnecessary spoiler in what I typed. I had intended on going indepth on it more but I figured that would be something that could be done later in a massive spoiler link or something. --ShoutaShura

I just removed it because what you added is more fan-speculation than the actual content of the show. EE is never "debunked" or proved in the anime. Each character has a different opinion and while you might be allowed to say that a particular character offered an opinion, you are not allowed to make the claim that EE is debunked.