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Coley Wallace

A few months back I read an obituary in the New York Times of a man named Coley Wallace. In that obituary, in Wallace's entry on Wikipedia, and in a number of other sources, he is noted as the only man to ever knock out Rocky Marciano in a New York Golden Gloves tournament as an amateur. Not only is that fight not even noted in this article, although it seems fairly significant, all the accounts I've read of that fight say that the knockout came in 1948. If Rocky turned pro March 17, 1947, which numerous sources cite, then why and how would he lose an amateur fight in 1948? Furthermore, when I read that obituary, I came to this article to see if there was more about that fight. Finding that there was no mention of Coley Wallace, I arbitrarily added what I found in the obituary. That has since been removed. Why? If it was the only knockout of his career, doesn't it warrant at least a sentence? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.74.63 (talk • contribs)

Rocky Movie

I'm pretty sure that Marciano was not the subject of the movie Rocky as this article claims. Check http://imdb.com/title/tt0075148/trivia and notice "Stallone based his Rocky character on a little-known New Jersey club boxer named Chuck Wepner. In March 1975, Wepner challenged the then-heavyweight champ Muhammad Ali to a title fight in Cleveland, Ohio. He lasted almost the entire fifteen rounds and became one of the few challengers to Ali to knock him to the ground." The imdb trivia page does not mention Marciano.Template:Unsigned:148.85.226.147

The article is discussing two movies there, but the wording could be clearer. I'll play with it. iMeowbot~Mw 04:53, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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Well, both Rocky movies are not good enough and many things are missing, we still need to make a good movie. ROcky Day info: http://geocities.com/georgereevesproject/Rockyday.txt

Marciano/Lester 1946 fight

Correcting/clarifying this entry: "The boxer was Henry Lester, a Golden Gloves champion. Rocky did not seem to care that his opponent was an award-winning amateur and took on Lester. Rocky was lucky it wasn't an official bout because, according to people present, he was on his way to defeat when he hit Lester in the groin and was disqualified. Rocky was so embarrassed by this fight and the newspapers' accounts of it, that when he went back to the military facilities, he started concentrating solely on his boxing training."

The kicking in the groin incident is not true. Lester was kicked in the abdomen by Rocky after a spectator shouted from the audience "Rock, if you can't hit him, kick him!", but the 'groin angle' makes for a better story.

-- David van Leesten, son of Henry Lester (real name Hendrik van Leesten, b. 1913- d.1999) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.2.120.11 (talk • contribs)

Football

The article states that "Legend has it that center Rocky once intercepted a pass and ran 60 yards with the ball to score a touchdown." Centers are on the offense; it is simply not possible for a center to intercept a pass. I am pointing this out rather than correcting it because I don't know the proper version of this "legend". -Rwv37 02:00, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Answer to Wallace

The newyork times, made a mistake, Coley Wallace never knockout Marciano, Wallace won a 3 round points desion over Marciano in the Golden Gloves, but most ring siders felt Marciano won that fight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.55 (talk • contribs)

Farley's tribute

When Marciano died, Glen Farley wrote a tribute to him that was published in the Brockton Enterprise. The paper reran it annually for some years. Can anyone find that tribute and post it here? I have searched the net pretty well, found several references to the tribute, but no copy of the text. Jm546 20:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Valdes

Valdes, I would never say Marciano SHOULD have fought Nino in 1956, as he had drop off of the top ten by that time. And was loseing of couse. Marciano never duck Vales, Moore beat him, and it was Moore, Not Nino who got the shot. Marciano had ALREADY plan for the Moore fight to be his last fight, as he was ring wear, and bad back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.90 (talk • contribs)

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Valdes fought Moore 15 rounds, after 12 he was winning or drawing, if he was not so foolish, he would have taken 12 rounds as it was the norm and got a shot at the Rock.Template:Unsigned:66.99.1.1

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 When Marciano died, Glen Farley wrote a tribute to him that was published in the Brockton ''Enterprise''.  The paper reran it annually for some years.  Can anyone find that tribute and post it here?  I have searched the net pretty well, found several references to the tribute, but no copy of the text.  [[User:Jm546|Jm546]] 20:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
-== This article, one success of georgereevesproject ==
-The following was removed from this talk page:
- == re: ATTENTION tag ==
- I placed this tag because various sockpuppets of georgereevesproject have
- been at this article for several days, and his edits are suspect because
- of other activity, and his edits intertwined with edits from other people,
- and its a freaken mess, which I do not have time to sort out now. If you
- want to refrain from editing this article for awhile, that would be great,
- because its that much less to sort out, but you don't have to.
- [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] 04:49, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
-Also the attention tag was was removed. The situation continues, full info at [[User:Dijxtra/Sock]]. I'm not going to re-tag this article, but anyone who cares about Marciano might want to consider watching this article, and someday picking through the edits and figuring out what belongs and what doesn't. [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] 21:42, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 ==Valdes==