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*'''Keep'''. Performs the same function as {{tl|commons}}, ''better'' (for image galleries). It was not created for one article, but for all articles with Commons links to image galleries. No-one objected to its creation or attempted to rebut the criticisms of the standard template at [[Template_talk:Commons]] that led to its creation - even though when I re-reverted Netoholic's reversion of [[Maine Coon]] the first time, I left the edit summary "If there's a problem with it, please join the discussion at Template_talk:Commonsgallery and Template_talk:Commons)". Disclaimer: I created the template, though the main contribution - the picture of the camera - was added by Nickj. --[[User:Last_Malthusian|Malthusian]] <small>[[User_talk:Last_Malthusian|(talk)]]</small> 00:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Keep'''. Performs the same function as {{tl|commons}}, ''better'' (for image galleries). It was not created for one article, but for all articles with Commons links to image galleries. No-one objected to its creation or attempted to rebut the criticisms of the standard template at [[Template_talk:Commons]] that led to its creation - even though when I re-reverted Netoholic's reversion of [[Maine Coon]] the first time, I left the edit summary "If there's a problem with it, please join the discussion at Template_talk:Commonsgallery and Template_talk:Commons)". Disclaimer: I created the template, though the main contribution - the picture of the camera - was added by Nickj. --[[User:Last_Malthusian|Malthusian]] <small>[[User_talk:Last_Malthusian|(talk)]]</small> 00:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' As for the criticisms in the nomination: standardization is the problem this template was created to address, as standardization requires that we have that <s>meaningless</s> *ahem* abstract Commons logo just because a linked page ''might'' contain mixed media, even though it doesn't. And I don't understand what 'maintenance' means. --[[User:Last_Malthusian|Malthusian]] <small>[[User_talk:Last_Malthusian|(talk)]]</small> 00:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''' As for the criticisms in the nomination: standardization is the problem this template was created to address, as standardization requires that we have that <s>meaningless</s> *ahem* abstract Commons logo just because a linked page ''might'' contain mixed media, even though it doesn't. And I don't understand what 'maintenance' means. --[[User:Last_Malthusian|Malthusian]] <small>[[User_talk:Last_Malthusian|(talk)]]</small> 00:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC) |
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* '''Delete''': template forking is evil, and do we really need to advertise for [[Olympus (company)|Olympus]] every time we link to the Commons? —[[User:Phil Boswell|Phil]] | [[User talk:Phil Boswell|Talk]] 18:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 18:21, 25 January 2006
January 20, 2006
- Delete — Transcluded text into Tropical cyclone; am I incorrect in thinking that transclusion is considered very bad on Wikipedia in almost all cases? Especially for the INTRO of an article? It was also transcluded into another page likely used as a template, which made it a meta-template. Has been substed into both and is now an orphan. Golbez 22:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC) --Golbez 22:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- This one is weird. It seems that Portal:Tropical cyclones/Intro got moved to {{Tropical cyclone}}, and I can't seem to find why. However, since the page it was from has been modified, this one needs a history merge. Delete, pending explanation of use. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:28, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. This text isn't used repeatedly enough to necessitate the creation of a template. Regular text will do just fine. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 04:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Text templates are inherently pointless, and this one moreso than usual. - Cuivienen 07:04, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as per Titoxd.Clarinetplayer 04:15, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom - • Dussst • T | C 11:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - per nom --Loopy e 23:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- I created this one. The text for the portal was the same as the text for the article, and minor changes kept getting made to one without being made to the other. So I made it into a template. Jdorje 04:32, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
History of this indicates it was created for one article - Maine Coon - because they didn't like certain qualities of Template:Commons (see Template talk:Commons). Template forks make maintenance and standardization difficult. -- Netoholic @ 21:12, 20 January 2006 (UTC) (revised)
- Keep more accurate and very helpful to those on the page (per the consensu of the editors there). The fact that is has been created for one page, so far, is not a proepr ground for deletion. Nominator argued against this template and lost the consensus there and is now trying another avenue to get his way. Shame.Gator (talk) 21:15, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I didn't argue... I did try changing to the more common template, and was reverted. I didn't realize at the time this was a major issue, but I still believe this should be deleted. Suggestions for changing Template:Commons are welcome on that talk page. -- Netoholic @ 21:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- So why not go to that page and attempt to persuade people instead?Gator (talk) 21:20, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- This version of the template is inappropriate for any media gallery that contains media other than pictures. That is why a 'fork' is needed, instead of a change to the main template. --Malthusian (talk) 00:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I didn't argue... I did try changing to the more common template, and was reverted. I didn't realize at the time this was a major issue, but I still believe this should be deleted. Suggestions for changing Template:Commons are welcome on that talk page. -- Netoholic @ 21:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. I have already described in detail what was wrong, in my personal opinion, with the Commons template at its talk page - please see: Template Talk:Commons#Not_very_obvious.2C_Poor_ease_of_use. After adding this, I waited 3 days, and received no response whatsoever. Then following the principles of {{sofixit}} and "be bold", I created this template, and then left yet another note on the Commons template talk page describing what had been done. So in response to Netoholic: There was ample opportunity to address what was wrong with Template:Commons, via explicit suggestion on its talk page, and not a single thing was done about it (and even now, nothing has been done about it). That's why my vote is "keep", and it will continue to be "keep" until such time as Template:commons is improved. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 03:08, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Quibble Actually I created the template, but most of the work is Nickj's. --Malthusian (talk) 00:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, you did, I'm sorry, my mistake, my recollection was wrong (I had resolved to create something along these lines, but then I saw the template you created and modified that instead). -- All the best, Nickj (t) 01:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Quibble Actually I created the template, but most of the work is Nickj's. --Malthusian (talk) 00:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, performs the same fuction as {{commons}}--nixie 03:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Performs the same function as {{commons}}, better (for image galleries). It was not created for one article, but for all articles with Commons links to image galleries. No-one objected to its creation or attempted to rebut the criticisms of the standard template at Template_talk:Commons that led to its creation - even though when I re-reverted Netoholic's reversion of Maine Coon the first time, I left the edit summary "If there's a problem with it, please join the discussion at Template_talk:Commonsgallery and Template_talk:Commons)". Disclaimer: I created the template, though the main contribution - the picture of the camera - was added by Nickj. --Malthusian (talk) 00:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Comment As for the criticisms in the nomination: standardization is the problem this template was created to address, as standardization requires that we have that
meaningless*ahem* abstract Commons logo just because a linked page might contain mixed media, even though it doesn't. And I don't understand what 'maintenance' means. --Malthusian (talk) 00:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC) - Delete: template forking is evil, and do we really need to advertise for Olympus every time we link to the Commons? —Phil | Talk 18:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
(and Template:Wikireviewpar)
Only Wikimedia Foundation sister project templates should use that style. I'm doubtful that even normal external links to Wikireview are encyclopedic. -- Netoholic @ 18:43, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- 158 google hits says this is plain ol' linkspam. Delete. Radiant_>|< 12:05, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, not a wikimedia sister project--nixie 03:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. per nixie.--cjllw | TALK 07:13, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - per nom --Loopy e 23:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC)