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On one of ships, the [[MV Mavi Marmara|MV ''Mavi Marmara'']], after IDF commandoes rappelled onto the deck, activists fought the Israeli boarding party with metal clubs and other weapon.<ref name="haaretz-at least"/><ref name="Inbid">{{cite news|last=Slackman |first=Michael |url=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/03/world/middleeast/03flotilla.html |title=In Bid to Quell Anger Over Raid, Israel Frees Detainees |publisher=NYTimes.com |date=June 2, 2010 |accessdate=June 3, 2010}}</ref><ref name="BBC Convoy raid">{{cite news|author=Paul Reynolds|publisher=BBC News|title=Israeli convoy raid: What went wrong?|date=June 2, 2010|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10203333.stm|accessdate=June 7, 2010}}</ref><ref name=AJfunerals>{{cite news | title = Turkey holds activists' funerals|author=Al Jazeera and agencies|format=Video and text|publisher= Al Jazeera English| accessdate = June 5, 2010 | date = June 3, 2010 | url = http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/06/2010639114160373.html }}</ref> Nine activists were killed by Israeli soldiers during the clash, some shot from behind at close range. <ref name= AJEshooting> {{cite news |title=Flotilla activists 'shot 30 times' |url= http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/06/20106535425983666.html|date=2010-06-05 |publisher=[[Al-Jazeera]] |author=Al Jazeera staff and agencies |accessdate=2010-06-06}}</ref><ref name= AJEshooting> {{cite news |title=Flotilla activists 'shot 30 times' |url= http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/06/20106535425983666.html|date=2010-06-05 |publisher=[[Al-Jazeera]] |author=Al Jazeera staff and agencies |accessdate=2010-06-06}}</ref><ref name="latimes">{{cite news|url=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-israel-flotilla-20100531,0,1839736.story|author=Edmund Sanders|title=Israel criticized over raid on Gaza flotilla|publisher=Los Angeles Times|date=June 1, 2010|accessdate=June 2, 2010}}</ref><ref name="CNN Autopsies">{{cite news|url=http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/06/04/gaza.raid.autopsies/|title=Autopsies reveal 9 men on Gaza aid boat shot, 5 in head|author=Ivan Watson|coauthors=Talia Kayali|date=June 4, 2010|publisher=CNN World|accessdate=June 4, 2010}}</ref><ref name="edition.cnn.com">{{cite news|url=http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/05/31/gaza.protest/index.html?hpt=T1|title=Israeli assault on Gaza-bound flotilla leaves at least 9 dead|author=CNN Wire Staff|publisher=CNN|date=May 31, 2010|accessdate=June 2, 2010}}</ref> Several dozen other passengers and seven Israeli soldiers were injured, with some of the commandos suffering from gunshot wounds.<ref name="no choice">{{cite news |title='We had no choice' |url= http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177445|date=2010-06-04 |publisher=JPost.com |author=Yaakov Katz |accessdate=2010-07-06}}</ref><ref name="vicious conflict">{{cite news |title="Vicious conflict aboard ‘Mavi Marmara’" |url= http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177067|date=2010-06-01 |publisher=JPost.com |author=Yaakov Katz |accessdate=2010-07-06}}</ref><ref name="latimes"/> Passengers, including reporters on board,<ref name="AJEJamal Elshayyal">{{cite news|url=http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2010/06/06/kidnapped-israel-forsaken-britain|title=Kidnapped by Israel, forsaken by Britain|author=Jamal Elshayyal|publisher=Al Jazeera English|date=June 6, 2010|accessdate=June 7, 2010}}</ref> say that the Israelis opened fire before boarding, while Israelis say that the firing occurred after soldiers were ambushed by passengers.<ref name= APTeibel>{{cite new|url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100604/ap_on_re_mi_ea/gaza_blockade|title=Israel vows to stop aid ship as it approaches Gaza|author=Amy Teibel|agency=Associated Press|publisher=Yahoo News|date=June 4, 2010|accessdate=June 5, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode |title=Under Fire for Gaza Raid, Israel Blames Flotilla Organizers for Provocation |url=http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june10/gaza1_05-31.html |series=[[PBS NewsHour]]|network=[[Public Broadcasting System]]|airdate=May 31, 2010}}</ref><ref name="detailsem">{{cite news|last=Friedman|first=Matti|title=Details emerge of bloodshed aboard Gaza-bound ship|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/02/AR2010060203641.html|accessdate=June 3, 2010|newspaper=The Washington Post|date=June 2, 2010|agency=Associated Press}}</ref><ref name="openedfire">{{cite web|author=Dorian Jones|coauthors= Helena Smith |url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/01/gaza-flotilla-eyewitness-accounts-gunfire |title=Israelis opened fire before boarding Gaza flotilla, say released activists| |publisher=Guardian (UK)|date=June 1, 2010|accessdate=June 2, 2010}}</ref><ref name="israelima">{{cite news|url=http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6521UG |title=Israeli marines were held during ship raid-witness: Soldiers freed after Israel agreed to airlift wounded|author=Yara Bayoumy|agency=Reuters|publisher=Reuters.com |date=June 3, 2010 |accessdate=June 5, 2010}}</ref> Different accounts disputed whether the activists used the soldiers' pistols against them.<ref name="flotilla organizer"> {{cite news |title=Gaza flotilla organizer admits activists seized weapons from Israeli soldiers |url= http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/gaza-flotilla-organizer-admits-activists-seized-weapons-from-israeli-soldiers-1.293929|date=2010-06-03 |publisher=haaretz.com |author=Haaretz Service and The Associated Press |accessdate=2010-07-06}}</ref><ref name="no choice" />
On one of ships, the [[MV Mavi Marmara|MV ''Mavi Marmara'']], after IDF commandoes rappelled onto the deck, activists fought the Israeli boarding party with metal clubs and other weapon.<ref name="haaretz-at least"/><ref name="Inbid">{{cite news|last=Slackman |first=Michael |url=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/03/world/middleeast/03flotilla.html |title=In Bid to Quell Anger Over Raid, Israel Frees Detainees |publisher=NYTimes.com |date=June 2, 2010 |accessdate=June 3, 2010}}</ref><ref name="BBC Convoy raid">{{cite news|author=Paul Reynolds|publisher=BBC News|title=Israeli convoy raid: What went wrong?|date=June 2, 2010|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10203333.stm|accessdate=June 7, 2010}}</ref><ref name=AJfunerals>{{cite news | title = Turkey holds activists' funerals|author=Al Jazeera and agencies|format=Video and text|publisher= Al Jazeera English| accessdate = June 5, 2010 | date = June 3, 2010 | url = http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/06/2010639114160373.html }}</ref> Nine activists were killed by Israeli soldiers during the clash, some shot from behind at close range. <ref name= AJEshooting> {{cite news |title=Flotilla activists 'shot 30 times' |url= http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/06/20106535425983666.html|date=2010-06-05 |publisher=[[Al-Jazeera]] |author=Al Jazeera staff and agencies |accessdate=2010-06-06}}</ref><ref name= AJEshooting> {{cite news |title=Flotilla activists 'shot 30 times' |url= http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/06/20106535425983666.html|date=2010-06-05 |publisher=[[Al-Jazeera]] |author=Al Jazeera staff and agencies |accessdate=2010-06-06}}</ref><ref name="latimes">{{cite news|url=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-israel-flotilla-20100531,0,1839736.story|author=Edmund Sanders|title=Israel criticized over raid on Gaza flotilla|publisher=Los Angeles Times|date=June 1, 2010|accessdate=June 2, 2010}}</ref><ref name="CNN Autopsies">{{cite news|url=http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/06/04/gaza.raid.autopsies/|title=Autopsies reveal 9 men on Gaza aid boat shot, 5 in head|author=Ivan Watson|coauthors=Talia Kayali|date=June 4, 2010|publisher=CNN World|accessdate=June 4, 2010}}</ref><ref name="edition.cnn.com">{{cite news|url=http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/05/31/gaza.protest/index.html?hpt=T1|title=Israeli assault on Gaza-bound flotilla leaves at least 9 dead|author=CNN Wire Staff|publisher=CNN|date=May 31, 2010|accessdate=June 2, 2010}}</ref> Several dozen other passengers and seven Israeli soldiers were injured, some allegedly from gunshot wounds.<ref name="no choice">{{cite news |title='We had no choice' |url= http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177445|date=2010-06-04 |publisher=JPost.com |author=Yaakov Katz |accessdate=2010-07-06}}</ref><ref name="vicious conflict">{{cite news |title="Vicious conflict aboard ‘Mavi Marmara’" |url= http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177067|date=2010-06-01 |publisher=JPost.com |author=Yaakov Katz |accessdate=2010-07-06}}</ref><ref name="latimes"/> Passengers, including reporters on board,<ref name="AJEJamal Elshayyal">{{cite news|url=http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2010/06/06/kidnapped-israel-forsaken-britain|title=Kidnapped by Israel, forsaken by Britain|author=Jamal Elshayyal|publisher=Al Jazeera English|date=June 6, 2010|accessdate=June 7, 2010}}</ref> say that the Israelis opened fire before boarding, while Israelis say that the firing occurred after soldiers were ambushed by passengers.<ref name= APTeibel>{{cite new|url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100604/ap_on_re_mi_ea/gaza_blockade|title=Israel vows to stop aid ship as it approaches Gaza|author=Amy Teibel|agency=Associated Press|publisher=Yahoo News|date=June 4, 2010|accessdate=June 5, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode |title=Under Fire for Gaza Raid, Israel Blames Flotilla Organizers for Provocation |url=http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june10/gaza1_05-31.html |series=[[PBS NewsHour]]|network=[[Public Broadcasting System]]|airdate=May 31, 2010}}</ref><ref name="detailsem">{{cite news|last=Friedman|first=Matti|title=Details emerge of bloodshed aboard Gaza-bound ship|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/02/AR2010060203641.html|accessdate=June 3, 2010|newspaper=The Washington Post|date=June 2, 2010|agency=Associated Press}}</ref><ref name="openedfire">{{cite web|author=Dorian Jones|coauthors= Helena Smith |url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/01/gaza-flotilla-eyewitness-accounts-gunfire |title=Israelis opened fire before boarding Gaza flotilla, say released activists| |publisher=Guardian (UK)|date=June 1, 2010|accessdate=June 2, 2010}}</ref><ref name="israelima">{{cite news|url=http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6521UG |title=Israeli marines were held during ship raid-witness: Soldiers freed after Israel agreed to airlift wounded|author=Yara Bayoumy|agency=Reuters|publisher=Reuters.com |date=June 3, 2010 |accessdate=June 5, 2010}}</ref> Different accounts disputed whether the activists used the soldiers' pistols against them.<ref name="flotilla organizer"> {{cite news |title=Gaza flotilla organizer admits activists seized weapons from Israeli soldiers |url= http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/gaza-flotilla-organizer-admits-activists-seized-weapons-from-israeli-soldiers-1.293929|date=2010-06-03 |publisher=haaretz.com |author=Haaretz Service and The Associated Press |accessdate=2010-07-06}}</ref><ref name="no choice" />

Revision as of 23:33, 8 June 2010

Reverting article before a consensus is reached

Gaza_flotilla_raid (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi,

I was editing the article Gaza flotilla raid, and added some information that I believe is critical to the event to the lead. Some other editors dispute this, and they reverted. I reverted back, and started a discussion on the talk page. However, one of the editors started a new thread about the same subject, and within about three hours reverted my edit without having reached a consensus. I (and some other editors) still believe that the information in question is critical to the conflict, and should go in the lead. I went ahead and restored the information in the lead while also continuing the discussion. I want, however, to make sure that I am not doing anything wrong. Is it okay that I reverted the edit made without giving me/other editors sufficient time to see the new thread and discuss?

I know that they should not have reverted without waiting for at least a day to give time for all parties to respond. What I am not sure is whether it is okay that I reverted after they violated this principle. ManasShaikh (talk) 05:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


On one of ships, the MV Mavi Marmara, after IDF commandoes rappelled onto the deck, activists fought the Israeli boarding party with metal clubs and other weapon.[1][2][3][4] Nine activists were killed by Israeli soldiers during the clash, some shot from behind at close range. [5][5][6][7][8] Several dozen other passengers and seven Israeli soldiers were injured, some allegedly from gunshot wounds.[9][10][6] Passengers, including reporters on board,[11] say that the Israelis opened fire before boarding, while Israelis say that the firing occurred after soldiers were ambushed by passengers.[12][13][14][15][16] Different accounts disputed whether the activists used the soldiers' pistols against them.[17][9]

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference haaretz-at least was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. ^ Slackman, Michael (June 2, 2010). "In Bid to Quell Anger Over Raid, Israel Frees Detainees". NYTimes.com. Retrieved June 3, 2010.
  3. ^ Paul Reynolds (June 2, 2010). "Israeli convoy raid: What went wrong?". BBC News. Retrieved June 7, 2010.
  4. ^ Al Jazeera and agencies (June 3, 2010). "Turkey holds activists' funerals" (Video and text). Al Jazeera English. Retrieved June 5, 2010.
  5. ^ a b Al Jazeera staff and agencies (2010-06-05). "Flotilla activists 'shot 30 times'". Al-Jazeera. Retrieved 2010-06-06.
  6. ^ a b Edmund Sanders (June 1, 2010). "Israel criticized over raid on Gaza flotilla". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved June 2, 2010.
  7. ^ Ivan Watson (June 4, 2010). "Autopsies reveal 9 men on Gaza aid boat shot, 5 in head". CNN World. Retrieved June 4, 2010. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  8. ^ CNN Wire Staff (May 31, 2010). "Israeli assault on Gaza-bound flotilla leaves at least 9 dead". CNN. Retrieved June 2, 2010. {{cite news}}: |author= has generic name (help)
  9. ^ a b Yaakov Katz (2010-06-04). "'We had no choice'". JPost.com. Retrieved 2010-07-06.
  10. ^ Yaakov Katz (2010-06-01). ""Vicious conflict aboard 'Mavi Marmara'"". JPost.com. Retrieved 2010-07-06.
  11. ^ Jamal Elshayyal (June 6, 2010). "Kidnapped by Israel, forsaken by Britain". Al Jazeera English. Retrieved June 7, 2010.
  12. ^ Amy Teibel (June 4, 2010). "Israel vows to stop aid ship as it approaches Gaza". Yahoo News. Associated Press. Retrieved June 5, 2010.
  13. ^ "Under Fire for Gaza Raid, Israel Blames Flotilla Organizers for Provocation". PBS NewsHour. May 31, 2010. Public Broadcasting System.
  14. ^ Friedman, Matti (June 2, 2010). "Details emerge of bloodshed aboard Gaza-bound ship". The Washington Post. Associated Press. Retrieved June 3, 2010.
  15. ^ Dorian Jones (June 1, 2010). "Israelis opened fire before boarding Gaza flotilla, say released activists". Guardian (UK). Retrieved June 2, 2010. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  16. ^ Yara Bayoumy (June 3, 2010). "Israeli marines were held during ship raid-witness: Soldiers freed after Israel agreed to airlift wounded". Reuters.com. Reuters. Retrieved June 5, 2010.
  17. ^ Haaretz Service and The Associated Press (2010-06-03). "Gaza flotilla organizer admits activists seized weapons from Israeli soldiers". haaretz.com. Retrieved 2010-07-06.
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